Nick Diaz vs. Jeff Lacy BOXING

[Snakey]

Man Diaz will get knocked out by anyone marginally good. Lacy maybe shot but he still got that left hook. Diaz got dropped by Daley who isnt really a good boxer, hes got power but shit technique.

[Mattyhitman]

Man Diaz will get knocked out by anyone marginally good. Lacy maybe shot but he still got that left hook. Diaz got dropped by Daley who isnt really a good boxer, hes got power but shit technique.

If Daley were to catch any boxer with them 4oz gloves on, he would drop them, he has stupid power in those hands.

I do take ya point that Diaz got caught, but put bigger gloves on Diaz, and bear in mind he would only be defending against punches, then his stance and defence would be alot different. If Diaz can get back up to KO Daley, then I have little fear he would take a one of Lacy's shots.

[erics44]

Man Diaz will get knocked out by anyone marginally good. Lacy maybe shot but he still got that left hook. Diaz got dropped by Daley who isnt really a good boxer, hes got power but shit technique.

If Daley were to catch any boxer with them 4oz gloves on, he would drop them, he has stupid power in those hands.

I do take ya point that Diaz got caught, but put bigger gloves on Diaz, and bear in mind he would only be defending against punches, then his stance and defence would be alot different. If Diaz can get back up to KO Daley, then I have little fear he would take a one of Lacy's shots.

he probly would take one or two

at anywhere near the top level tho he would lose in a boxing ring i reckon seen as though it is his first fight, after 20 fights he may be able to hack it, he might start a little higher up the ladder than someone who has had no professional fight experience

it all depends on how near the top level lacy still is, i for one hope Lacy wins easily but i am a boxing fan

[Mattyhitman]

Man Diaz will get knocked out by anyone marginally good. Lacy maybe shot but he still got that left hook. Diaz got dropped by Daley who isnt really a good boxer, hes got power but shit technique.

If Daley were to catch any boxer with them 4oz gloves on, he would drop them, he has stupid power in those hands.

I do take ya point that Diaz got caught, but put bigger gloves on Diaz, and bear in mind he would only be defending against punches, then his stance and defence would be alot different. If Diaz can get back up to KO Daley, then I have little fear he would take a one of Lacy's shots.

he probly would take one or two

at anywhere near the top level tho he would lose in a boxing ring i reckon seen as though it is his first fight, after 20 fights he may be able to hack it, he might start a little higher up the ladder than someone who has had no professional fight experience

it all depends on how near the top level lacy still is, i for one hope Lacy wins easily but i am a boxing fan

Im a fan of both sports, so can appreciate what a MMA fighter would have to do to make the transition, and vice versa.

Im not saying Diaz would win, not at all, but he did train boxing as his first form of combat, he just evolved into MMA. He has skills, the skills would need to be polished up, but as ya say, how far gone is Lacy now ? Now harm in trying ya hand at the sport if he feels he can mix it then why not

[Kev]

Diaz is much bigger than Lacy as well.

[Mattyhitman]

Diaz is much bigger than Lacy as well.

How's that like ?

Diaz fights at 170lb limit for welterweight in Strikeforce.

Lacy fights about the same, 168-172lb in recent fights

[Kev]

Diaz is much bigger than Lacy as well.

How's that like ?

Diaz fights at 170lb limit for welterweight in Strikeforce.

Lacy fights about the same, 168-172lb in recent fights

I mean height wise. Diaz is about 6 ft 2, Lacy is only 5 ft 9. Wiki lists him as 5ft 10 but that's optimistic I think.

He was relatively small for super middle relying on muscle to bulk up his frame. Diaz weighs the same with his natural frame even though he looks skinny. Put muscles on Diaz and he'd probably be around 190 lbs.

Not saying he wins the fight because of this but the way Jeff has looked lately an tall, rangy fighter with long arms might be a problem.

I really don't know how good Diaz would be as a boxer. Certainly stand up is the main part of his skillset so he transfers to boxing far better than James Toney did to MMA. Of course he won't be as technically able as a top level boxer, but he may have enough to beat Jeff at this stage.

Either way it's a fight I hope neither takes. Beating Jeff Lacy doesn't prove a victory for MMA over boxing as Lacy is no longer relevant to the sport (sadly) and Jeff was too good a fighter before his injury and the Calzaghe beating to be reduced to fighting circus sideshows against a Strikeforce MMA bad boy.

Nick is an awesome MMA fighter, great to watch and I want to see him where he performs best. Jeff, I wish him well but I hope he's able to find a decent paying career outside of boxing.

[Boxer4life]

guys seriously, lacy will destroy this guy, ok, lacy lost to guys pretty bad, calzaghe, roy jones, taylor, all guys that are extremely accomplished boxers, look at the way diaz stands, lacy will eat his ass alive, anderson silva was one who tried boxing, anyone see his fight? he looks like shit in the ring, imagine diazo

[BoxerBrief]

This kid is supposedly in his prime, scared of no one, MMA has no one for him to fight, he is unhappy with his purses so now he want's to be a boxer? I have seen most of his televised bouts, he has some good handskill but different boxing dirty then professional boxing.

Maybe he would succeed nicely in Pro Boxing? I think if he is looking to make noise, he is attempting to show from day one he will be an issue to those holding titles then we do not call out Jeff Lacy or Fernando Vargas. How about a top ten contender or even a champion?

How would Nick fare against Bute, Ward, Pavlik, Pascal, Cloud or even Hopkins in a standup bout of hands? Can't slip them into a rear naked, can catch an armbar, no heel hooks.

Nick either fight or don't fight we need nothing less then a loudmouth who goes about fighting men past their best by years.

[erics44]

Im a fan of both sports, so can appreciate what a MMA fighter would have to do to make the transition, and vice versa.

Im not saying Diaz would win, not at all, but he did train boxing as his first form of combat, he just evolved into MMA. He has skills, the skills would need to be polished up, but as ya say, how far gone is Lacy now ? Now harm in trying ya hand at the sport if he feels he can mix it then why not

no i agree, why not

ill be watching

[Snakey]

Man Diaz will get knocked out by anyone marginally good. Lacy maybe shot but he still got that left hook. Diaz got dropped by Daley who isnt really a good boxer, hes got power but shit technique.

If Daley were to catch any boxer with them 4oz gloves on, he would drop them, he has stupid power in those hands.

I do take ya point that Diaz got caught, but put bigger gloves on Diaz, and bear in mind he would only be defending against punches, then his stance and defence would be alot different. If Diaz can get back up to KO Daley, then I have little fear he would take a one of Lacy's shots.

But to be quite honest, Diaz over rates his own boxing ability. Hes also talking about fighting Vargas. I havent seen anything from Diaz that tells me he would hang with a decent pro. Just coz you can outbox a bunch of guys who cant throw punches for shit (and I watch UFC all the time, even saw it live) doesnt mean you can beat someone who can do it against the best.

I reckon if he wants to fight a boxer than give him someone decent so he can take his beating and then go back to mma. The same as what Toney got from cotoure.

[Mattyhitman]

Man Diaz will get knocked out by anyone marginally good. Lacy maybe shot but he still got that left hook. Diaz got dropped by Daley who isnt really a good boxer, hes got power but shit technique.

If Daley were to catch any boxer with them 4oz gloves on, he would drop them, he has stupid power in those hands.

I do take ya point that Diaz got caught, but put bigger gloves on Diaz, and bear in mind he would only be defending against punches, then his stance and defence would be alot different. If Diaz can get back up to KO Daley, then I have little fear he would take a one of Lacy's shots.

But to be quite honest, Diaz over rates his own boxing ability. Hes also talking about fighting Vargas. I havent seen anything from Diaz that tells me he would hang with a decent pro. Just coz you can outbox a bunch of guys who cant throw punches for shit (and I watch UFC all the time, even saw it live) doesnt mean you can beat someone who can do it against the best.

I reckon if he wants to fight a boxer than give him someone decent so he can take his beating and then go back to mma. The same as what Toney got from cotoure.

Ha, I do appreciate what ya saying bro, but to compare Toney's fight with Couture and Nick having a boxing match is apples and oranges.

Randy was never going to enter Toney's realm and stand and trade punches. Randy done what he had to do and take the fight to the ground.

Give him Kid Thunder, appease his ego, then send him to GSP for a proper fight

[Snakey]

Man Diaz will get knocked out by anyone marginally good. Lacy maybe shot but he still got that left hook. Diaz got dropped by Daley who isnt really a good boxer, hes got power but shit technique.

If Daley were to catch any boxer with them 4oz gloves on, he would drop them, he has stupid power in those hands.

I do take ya point that Diaz got caught, but put bigger gloves on Diaz, and bear in mind he would only be defending against punches, then his stance and defence would be alot different. If Diaz can get back up to KO Daley, then I have little fear he would take a one of Lacy's shots.

But to be quite honest, Diaz over rates his own boxing ability. Hes also talking about fighting Vargas. I havent seen anything from Diaz that tells me he would hang with a decent pro. Just coz you can outbox a bunch of guys who cant throw punches for shit (and I watch UFC all the time, even saw it live) doesnt mean you can beat someone who can do it against the best.

I reckon if he wants to fight a boxer than give him someone decent so he can take his beating and then go back to mma. The same as what Toney got from cotoure.

Ha, I do appreciate what ya saying bro, but to compare Toney's fight with Couture and Nick having a boxing match is apples and oranges.

Randy was never going to enter Toney's realm and stand and trade punches. Randy done what he had to do and take the fight to the ground.

Give him Kid Thunder, appease his ego, then send him to GSP for a proper fight

Yeah and thats the other thing, now that strikeforce is owned by Zuffa he will have more competition. I think GSP beats him any day of the week. I just dont get the idea of going to another sport when your not even the best in your current sport.

[Mattyhitman]

Man Diaz will get knocked out by anyone marginally good. Lacy maybe shot but he still got that left hook. Diaz got dropped by Daley who isnt really a good boxer, hes got power but shit technique.

If Daley were to catch any boxer with them 4oz gloves on, he would drop them, he has stupid power in those hands.

I do take ya point that Diaz got caught, but put bigger gloves on Diaz, and bear in mind he would only be defending against punches, then his stance and defence would be alot different. If Diaz can get back up to KO Daley, then I have little fear he would take a one of Lacy's shots.

But to be quite honest, Diaz over rates his own boxing ability. Hes also talking about fighting Vargas. I havent seen anything from Diaz that tells me he would hang with a decent pro. Just coz you can outbox a bunch of guys who cant throw punches for shit (and I watch UFC all the time, even saw it live) doesnt mean you can beat someone who can do it against the best.

I reckon if he wants to fight a boxer than give him someone decent so he can take his beating and then go back to mma. The same as what Toney got from cotoure.

Ha, I do appreciate what ya saying bro, but to compare Toney's fight with Couture and Nick having a boxing match is apples and oranges.

Randy was never going to enter Toney's realm and stand and trade punches. Randy done what he had to do and take the fight to the ground.

Give him Kid Thunder, appease his ego, then send him to GSP for a proper fight

Yeah and thats the other thing, now that strikeforce is owned by Zuffa he will have more competition. I think GSP beats him any day of the week. I just dont get the idea of going to another sport when your not even the best in your current sport.

Yea the fight with GSP is the only one out there for him really. Once GSP takes care of Shields then hopefully that match will be made. I honestly think Diaz has the bit better stand-up striking, just GSP's wrestling is off the map. Diaz has solid BJJ, just dont think GSP will give him a chance to utalise it once he has him down. Just ask BJ Penn about that