Berto vs. Ortiz on HBO saturday

**Gandalf** · 04-17-2011 05:48 AM

Originally Posted by generalbulldog

Enough with the Ortiz vs Martinez, they're about 2 weight classes apart and 1 guy just fought for the 1st time at WW.

Yes, it's not right. It's like Mayweather/Marquez nobody outside of Marquez was calling for that, so we shouldn't have anybody outside of Ortiz calling for it either. But I am sure he isn't that silly. Martinez is far too big.

**Kev** · 04-17-2011 08:27 AM

Originally Posted by miles

Originally Posted by generalbulldog

Enough with the Ortiz vs Martinez, they're about 2 weight classes apart and 1 guy just fought for the 1st time at WW.

Yes, it's not right. It's like Mayweather/Marquez nobody outside of Marquez was calling for that, so we shouldn't have anybody outside of Ortiz calling for it either. But I am sure he isn't that silly. Martinez is far too big.

At 160 he's far too big of course but with the power of Goldenboy behind him Ortiz might be able to cheat and negotiate that Martinez comes in at 158. We know from the Filipino fraud that it's easy to defeat a bigger man when you demand those kind of concessions.

I'd refuse to credit him for that win however.