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    Default Re: The meaninlessness of being unbeaten

    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    HOF trainer Whitey Bimstein said that?? Guess he never heard of Rocco Marcheggiano of Brockton, Massachussetts. That guy named Rocco fought Joe The Brown Bomber Louis, Jersey Jow Walcott TWICE, Ezzard Charles TWICE, Don Cockell the European Champion, Archie The Mongoose Moore, etc.

    No, he never fought nobody good.
    You left out Roland LaStarza who was no chump. As I said Marciano's legacy rests not on his being unbeaten, it rests on him so comprehensively wrecking the division it too the sport 18 months after his last fight to create a champion the public would accept.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    HOF trainer Whitey Bimstein said that?? Guess he never heard of Rocco Marcheggiano of Brockton, Massachussetts. That guy named Rocco fought Joe The Brown Bomber Louis, Jersey Jow Walcott TWICE, Ezzard Charles TWICE, Don Cockell the European Champion, Archie The Mongoose Moore, etc.

    No, he never fought nobody good.
    You left out Roland LaStarza who was no chump. As I said Marciano's legacy rests not on his being unbeaten, it rests on him so comprehensively wrecking the division it too the sport 18 months after his last fight to create a champion the public would accept.
    I obviously wasn't around back then but was Maciano beating Joe Luis more of a feat than Trevor Berbick beating Ali? As I understood it Louis was a shell of a fighter who had been forced out of retirement because he was bankrupt?

    Walcott was that era's Frank Bruno, finally won a world title at after about 5 attempts and Marciano had to come from behind to win that.

    I think Marciano was a great fighter, but well behind the other heavweight legends in terms of who he beat. He is precisely so well remembered becuase of his 0 imo.

    18 months isn't a long time for the heavyweight division to recover. Lennox retired over 5 years ago and the divsion is still a mess...

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    Default Re: The meaninlessness of being unbeaten

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    HOF trainer Whitey Bimstein said that?? Guess he never heard of Rocco Marcheggiano of Brockton, Massachussetts. That guy named Rocco fought Joe The Brown Bomber Louis, Jersey Jow Walcott TWICE, Ezzard Charles TWICE, Don Cockell the European Champion, Archie The Mongoose Moore, etc.

    No, he never fought nobody good.
    You left out Roland LaStarza who was no chump. As I said Marciano's legacy rests not on his being unbeaten, it rests on him so comprehensively wrecking the division it too the sport 18 months after his last fight to create a champion the public would accept.
    I obviously wasn't around back then but was Maciano beating Joe Luis more of a feat than Trevor Berbick beating Ali? As I understood it Louis was a shell of a fighter who had been forced out of retirement because he was bankrupt?

    Walcott was that era's Frank Bruno, finally won a world title at after about 5 attempts and Marciano had to come from behind to win that.

    I think Marciano was a great fighter, but well behind the other heavweight legends in terms of who he beat. He is precisely so well remembered becuase of his 0 imo.

    18 months isn't a long time for the heavyweight division to recover. Lennox retired over 5 years ago and the divsion is still a mess...
    Equating Joe Walcott and Frank Bruno in any sense is boxing-crime! Walcott beat HOFers six different times! Who the hell did Bruno ever beat?

    18 months is FOREVER in boxing for a new champion. It's just that this is the worst era of boxing since WWI and the people thinking the straps mean something screws up the process.

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