.... rodger and floyd do what most fighters should. Most of the work is already done before the ringwalk. Floyd does need rodger....just not to coach him on things he's already taken care of in camp. On the flip side most fighters are in there without a trainer for what it's worth. I've heard guys like berto's trainer this past sat, b mcgirt, even judah's dad and teddy altlas give great advice in the corner that mid-as-well have gone right into a brick wall for as much as they listen. nacho is the same a rodger. Listen to him coach marquez against floyd. First he let's him drink pee pee then in the ring with all the advice dude could have used he tells him "Be lively, move, he's hitting you too much plus other worthless garbage yet he's supposidly this great trainer. Same with nazim against floyd, he gave great advice and shane went out and did the same crap he did the round before. Bottom line don't let your hate of floyd cloud you judgement, rodger is no worse or better than the rest of them depending on how you look at it. It's the fighters who take or leave the advice, by the time they roll in the ring the cut and water guy are probably more important the night of. But i've never boxed so maybe i don't know anything.