Berto's corner was nonexistent

[IamInuit]

I have never seen a corner that disengaged, delirious and nonfunctional at this level in 40 years of following the sport. I'm sure their are others if I thought about it but Berto should shit can the entire lot imo.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

I agree. I was actually quite disgusted. A fight must be emotional enough as it is without his brother shouting shit at him for 12 rounds... And his trainer was just pathetic really..!

[IamInuit]

Agreed. I wanted to kill his brother and next time he should just bring a deaf mute in as a trainer.

[greynotsoold]

They seemed clueless, alright.

[TitoFan]

I have never seen a corner that disengaged, delirious and nonfunctional at this level in 40 years of following the sport. I'm sure their are others if I thought about it but Berto should shit can the entire lot imo.

Agreed, although Felix Trinidad's corner (particularly his dad) during his fight with Winky Wright fight should merit an "Honorable Mention", at least. Papa Trinidad seemed clueless, and offered no alternate plans for Tito to follow.

[IamInuit]

I have never seen a corner that disengaged, delirious and nonfunctional at this level in 40 years of following the sport. I'm sure their are others if I thought about it but Berto should shit can the entire lot imo.

Agreed, although Felix Trinidad's corner (particularly his dad) during his fight with Winky Wright fight should merit an "Honorable Mention", at least. Papa Trinidad seemed clueless, and offered no alternate plans for Tito to follow.

Yup no plan B. Shame as Tito was a good boxer earlier in his career which he rarely gets credit for. The moment his bone crushing power was discovered they abandoned boxing and began the plodding. I was a huge Tito fan, hell still am. Never liked the father son teams. Jack Mosley is another father who had no business in a corner.

[TitoFan]

I have never seen a corner that disengaged, delirious and nonfunctional at this level in 40 years of following the sport. I'm sure their are others if I thought about it but Berto should shit can the entire lot imo.

Agreed, although Felix Trinidad's corner (particularly his dad) during his fight with Winky Wright fight should merit an "Honorable Mention", at least. Papa Trinidad seemed clueless, and offered no alternate plans for Tito to follow.

Yup no plan B. Shame as Tito was a good boxer earlier in his career which he rarely gets credit for. The moment his bone crushing power was discovered they abandoned boxing and began the plodding. I was a huge Tito fan, hell still am. Never liked the father son teams. Jack Mosley is another father who had no business in a corner.

Uncle-nephew combos sometimes don't do so well, either. Cotto had his uncle in there for awhile, until they had a falling out. Then Cotto inexplicably hired Joe Santiago (?!?!?) as his trainer, until he came to his senses (and lost to Pac), and hired Emanuel Stewart. Best thing he could've done.

[Spicoli]

Its been that way for awhile yeh. When it gets thick it seems to devolve into a cross between a speech by Tony Robbins and quotes the gathered from Rocky, Rocky 5 I'd imagine.
Berto gets that confused face and looks to have no clue.


Less is best. He needs to change things and clean house if its going to help him improve.

[Hulk]

Its been that way for awhile yeh. When it gets thick it seems to devolve into a cross between a speech by Tony Robbins and quotes the gathered from Rocky, Rocky 5 I'd imagine.
Berto gets that confused face and looks to have no clue.


Less is best. He needs to change things and clean house if its going to help him improve.

"Be an Assassin Andre ! Be an assassin !"

[C-Lo]

Berto's corner would've been better off not being there. All he really needed was a cutman, just in case, and someone to give him a drink. His brother was just ridiculous! If I was the trainer I would've put him in his place or done something incredibly embarrassing with the camera right there so he would get the message.

[Lance Uppercut]

It was absolutely ridiculous for a professional fighter, have a corner where 3 people are talking to him at the same time.

[greynotsoold]

The role of the trainer in boxing today is, really, secondary. In the old days, the trainer taught the fighter to fight, developed and taught the game plan for the fight, conditioned the fighter, made sure he made weight, took care of his mental issues, made sure his ex-wife didn't get in the way, and got tickets to the fight for extended family members.
Now, you have cardio coaches and strength training coaches and sports psychologists and so on and so on. What you end up with is guys that can't fight, need advice between rounds, and don't have anybody to give it to them. When you have 300 people telling you what to do in the run-up to a fight, why not in the corner, too?

[IamInuit]

The role of the trainer in boxing today is, really, secondary. In the old days, the trainer taught the fighter to fight, developed and taught the game plan for the fight, conditioned the fighter, made sure he made weight, took care of his mental issues, made sure his ex-wife didn't get in the way, and got tickets to the fight for extended family members.
Now, you have cardio coaches and strength training coaches and sports psychologists and so on and so on. What you end up with is guys that can't fight, need advice between rounds, and don't have anybody to give it to them. When you have 300 people telling you what to do in the run-up to a fight, why not in the corner, too?

That’s a very salient point right their. There is really only a hand full of good trainers left that are on the big stage. The majority of the great trainers are quite literally in the gyms where all these guys learned their craft. No more Blackburn, Arcel or Dundee. No Clancy, Damato or Eddie Futch. Theirs but a smattering of real trainers at the top level left. Which is not only odd and disturbing but worrisome.

[generalbulldog]

Speakin of which, I remember Nocontest mentioning that Berto's trainer does sound like Bill Clinton. And he was right. Did anyone else thought this too?

[IamInuit]

I have a question. Was the trainer even watching the fight or was he watching the clock? That corner was the very definition of incompetence. Guys fighting a south paw and not a peep about direction.

"I just need to show up" is not a strategy.