Top 10 all-time 185 lb. fighters?

[Mr140]

They were never sure of the real date of his birth if you read the bio most said he was older.

[Mr140]

Also Foreman was hell a better fighter then Wallcot anyhow i didn't even bring Foreman up dude.

[greynotsoold]

I don't know that Holyfield would have done well in Marciano's era. He got knocked out by Toney, who handled him very easily, very one-sided fight. Yes, Holyfield was 40 but Toney was 35, and a fat middleweight to boot. After the fight Evander said he would never have beaten Toney because he couldn't figure out how to hit him. Bill Miller, he trained Toney from early on, was a disciple of the Ezzard Charles/Archie Moore/Walcott style of fighting.
Or look at it this way...put a 40 year old Evander (ko'd by Toney, easily) against 40 year old Archie Moore, who dropped Marciano and gave him a tough fight, and then went 37-3-1, defending the LHW title and fighting for the HW title. Or a 36 year old Moore against a 36 year old Ali, or the Walcott that fought Marciano against the Ali that fought Berbick. Same age.
I definitely have a bias towards old fighters because they were better fighters. The trainers were better and they were able to fight more often, which I am sure todays fighters would do, if there were opportunity to fight twice a month.

[generalbulldog]

I don't know that Holyfield would have done well in Marciano's era. He got knocked out by Toney, who handled him very easily, very one-sided fight. Yes, Holyfield was 40 but Toney was 35, and a fat middleweight to boot. After the fight Evander said he would never have beaten Toney because he couldn't figure out how to hit him. Bill Miller, he trained Toney from early on, was a disciple of the Ezzard Charles/Archie Moore/Walcott style of fighting.
Or look at it this way...put a 40 year old Evander (ko'd by Toney, easily) against 40 year old Archie Moore, who dropped Marciano and gave him a tough fight, and then went 37-3-1, defending the LHW title and fighting for the HW title. Or a 36 year old Moore against a 36 year old Ali, or the Walcott that fought Marciano against the Ali that fought Berbick. Same age.
I definitely have a bias towards old fighters because they were better fighters. The trainers were better and they were able to fight more often, which I am sure todays fighters would do, if there were opportunity to fight twice a month.

HW champions back then just like today hardly fought more than twice a year at most 3 times a year once they achieve championship status just like this era unlike the lower weight classes. They sure as hell didn't fight twice a month. And why are you using a 40 year old HOlyfield as your argument as an example that he couldn't hang in Rocky's era? Holyfield was pretty much done at that age. Some guys age more well than others.

The point being ROcky fought a lot of past their prime or shot guys. Joe Louis was 37 and shot. Those other guys like Walcott were in their late 30s with lots of wear and tear, no where near prime. So no it's not an exaggeration that Marciano fought old and shot fighters. That's why his career isn't so impressive compared to say a Ali who was the definition of a modern era HW.