Overrating the Past......? No way!

[brocktonblockbust]

Of course nobody with "Tyson-esque" power ever fought Marciano---its because only Marciano had Tyson-esque power back then. And nobody could beat him. And nobody WOULD beat him, unless that person outweighted The Rock of Rocks by a minimum of 30 pounds and outreached him even worse than he was already outreached, and towered over him even more toweringly than he was already towered over.

Rocco was the shidt, and that's it folks. And dont go tryin to put him in there with Lennox Lewis-sized fighters. Would we ever ask a Sugar Ray Leonard to fight a 200 pound Michael Spinks? Because thats about the size difference, and clearly isnt a fair fight.

[ICB]

Of course nobody with "Tyson-esque" power ever fought Marciano---its because only Marciano had Tyson-esque power back then. And nobody could beat him. And nobody WOULD beat him, unless that person outweighted The Rock of Rocks by a minimum of 30 pounds and outreached him even worse than he was already outreached, and towered over him even more toweringly than he was already towered over.

Rocco was the shidt, and that's it folks. And dont go tryin to put him in there with Lennox Lewis-sized fighters. Would we ever ask a Sugar Ray Leonard to fight a 200 pound Michael Spinks? Because thats about the size difference, and clearly isnt a fair fight.

I want to ask you a question because your massive Rocky Marciano fan, is it true he lost a professional fight under the name Rocky Mack ? i know he was out of shape then, and wasn't really training. But i've heard this rumour alot and want to know if it's true or not.

[BIG H]

Of course nobody with "Tyson-esque" power ever fought Marciano---its because only Marciano had Tyson-esque power back then. And nobody could beat him. And nobody WOULD beat him, unless that person outweighted The Rock of Rocks by a minimum of 30 pounds and outreached him even worse than he was already outreached, and towered over him even more toweringly than he was already towered over.

Rocco was the shidt, and that's it folks. And dont go tryin to put him in there with Lennox Lewis-sized fighters. Would we ever ask a Sugar Ray Leonard to fight a 200 pound Michael Spinks? Because thats about the size difference, and clearly isnt a fair fight.

I want to ask you a question because your massive Rocky Marciano fan, is it true he lost a professional fight under the name Rocky Mack ? i know he was out of shape then, and wasn't really training. But i've heard this rumour alot and want to know if it's true or not.

I looked into this years ago after Britkid brought up some claims about Marciano losing an early pro fight. I'm not sure if anybody can really prove whether he lost as a pro or not, but I don't think he did. He went back and forward between pro and amatuer fights and all his losses were bouts sanctioned as 'Amateur' The fight where called himself Rocky Mack, that people claim he lost (not sure if called himself that more than once) he actually won. Can't remember is that was a pro fight or not.

...in fact I am now going to go and look into it

[brocktonblockbust]

Rocky lost a fight BEFORE he was even amateur, in Brockton, Mass to a black guy. It was like some local boxing club/gym. Marciano had thrown all his punches--about 250 they say--in the 1st 3 rounds and was totally punched-out. So knowing he would get knocked out, he kneed the poor guy in the balls, and ran out of the ring into the street. At that time he may have been 23 years old. I think he quit boxing for a year or 2 after that, and tried out for the Chicago Cubs. So that's a DQ. But I dont think that counts

[brocktonblockbust]

Anyway, like I said before, some people come into this world and by some hand of grace nobody can beat them. Marciano was one of those people. How can we explain it? To the poster who was "confused" why I started another Marciano post----some things need no explanation. This topic will never be totally discussed, there's too much mystery and fascination about it.

Balding, 2 left feet, uncoordinated, SHORTEST REACH IN HEAVYWEIGHT HISTORY, slow, DIDN'T STRAT BOXING UNTIL AGE 24, etc.... How did this guy do it? How?

[marbleheadmaui]

Anyway, like I said before, some people come into this world and by some hand of grace nobody can beat them. Marciano was one of those people. How can we explain it? To the poster who was "confused" why I started another Marciano post----some things need no explanation. This topic will never be totally discussed, there's too much mystery and fascination about it.

Balding, 2 left feet, uncoordinated, SHORTEST REACH IN HEAVYWEIGHT HISTORY, slow, DIDN'T STRAT BOXING UNTIL AGE 24, etc.... How did this guy do it? How?

Well one way is he was as fit as any man who ever stepped into the ring. Another is he wasn't bereft of athletic talent. He was FREAKISHLY strong for a man his size and I think the uncoordinated thing is overplayed. he was too good a baseball player for that to be true. Maybe a better way of saying it is he wasn't graceful.

[Beanflicker]

This kind of argument is foolish IMO. You'd have to be crazy to believe that, on average, athletes today are not stronger than the athletes of yesteryears.

This "people were tougher back then" crap always irks me too. There were tough guys and sissies back then, just like there are tough guys and sissies now. Not trying to sound like a prick, but these are the kinds of ignorant blanket statements that you make when you're a kid.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Anyway, like I said before, some people come into this world and by some hand of grace nobody can beat them. Marciano was one of those people. How can we explain it? To the poster who was "confused" why I started another Marciano post----some things need no explanation. This topic will never be totally discussed, there's too much mystery and fascination about it.

Balding, 2 left feet, uncoordinated, SHORTEST REACH IN HEAVYWEIGHT HISTORY, slow, DIDN'T STRAT BOXING UNTIL AGE 24, etc.... How did this guy do it? How?

Well one way is he was as fit as any man who ever stepped into the ring. Another is he wasn't bereft of athletic talent. He was FREAKISHLY strong for a man his size and I think the uncoordinated thing is overplayed. he was too good a baseball player for that to be true. Maybe a better way of saying it is he wasn't graceful.

Baseball player?! That fucking explains it then.. I mean the way he throws some of his punches, he pitches them at you.

[CutMeMick]

I will say that depending on the match up and the fighter I tend to favor the old school fighter over todays fighters.

Tiger, Monzon beat any of todays Middleweights.
Griffith, Armstrong & Napoles beat any of todays Welterweights.

For me it's because Griffith fought the best available sure he lost some, but he also won some. He fought 2, 3 times a month. He challenged and beat HoF'ers.

Todays fighters with the exception of a handful just don't do that.