
Originally Posted by
marbleheadmaui

Originally Posted by
captainanddew
hard to believe it is possible, but Calzaghe's shots did more damage to Lacy, than Tito's did to Vargas. Vargas was still able to be a pretty good fighter after Tito, though it was clearly he had left quite a bit in the ring with Tito. Lacy-he was a shell aftewards. Couple that with his bad shoulder and Calzaghe completely ruined him.
Duuuuuuuuuude!
Yup. My question is this. I am convinced Vargas was the goods. Just a monster talent. Wins already over Raul Marquez and Bazooka Quartey and he really fought great against Tito. Lacey, even at the time, seemed like hype as much as anything. But yeah, Calzaghe wrecked him, no question.
there are a few differences that should come into play here...
1-vargas was far more naturally talented and had greater ability & boxing knowledge & skill than lacy.
2- tito was fighting with loaded gloves which caused so much damage to be done to vargas, where joe didn't have that much pop on each punch but just beat on lacy like a drum.
i know people hate the thought of this but i believe evidence of the loaded gloves can be found in his fight against bernard. yes bernard is a master boxer who makes people look bad by forcing them to fight his fight...but tito came out and a showed no confidence in his power because he knew that he didn't have the loaded gloves to hurt bernard. i like tito he was great and fun to watch but i can't ignore what seems so obvious to me. you see the same pattern in the margarito v mosely fight. a cheater gets caught and then doesn't look the same in the ring cause they know they were successful in part cause of cheating.
great list you've put together. i'm gonna go and look a few of them up. thnaks!
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