Does Manny stop Shane?

[marbleheadmaui]

Meh. Name me 1 fighter in boxing history where you cannot pick apart his resume. There is no such thing as a flawless resume.

And BTW, the majority of people here had Hatton beating Pac, and at least half of the forum had Cotto beating him. And quite a few had Margarito beating Pac. Same people in this thread too. Hell it's the same on other boxing forums too. But after the victories it was some excuse.

I dunno. Good luck picking apart Greb's or Robinson's or Canzoneri's or Barney Ross's or Muhammad Ali's or Joe Louis' or Willie Pep's.

Perfect isn't possible, we are human after all. But the word overwhelming comes to mind.

[Pavlik]

the pressure is on Pac because PBF was so dominant in his fight with Shane anything other than a kayo will be a disappointment on most fans. 2 scenarios here: my guess would be if Pac uses the lateral movement he used vs odlh and not stay inside for too long it might just end up like the odlh fight. shane's weapons here are clinch left hook to the body lil space straight right repeat process, down goes Pac hopefully not

[killersheep]

Serious question here, does anyone think that if this fight goes past 5 Mosley will have enough left to do anything damaging?

[killersheep]

the pressure is on Pac because PBF was so dominant in his fight with Shane anything other than a kayo will be a disappointment on most fans. 2 scenarios here: my guess would be if Pac uses the lateral movement he used vs odlh and not stay inside for too long it might just end up like the odlh fight. shane's weapons here are clinch left hook to the body lil space straight right repeat process, down goes Pac hopefully not

you forgot the jab.jab overhand right that he likes to repeat for rounds on end.

[generalbulldog]

Meh. Name me 1 fighter in boxing history where you cannot pick apart his resume. There is no such thing as a flawless resume.

And BTW, the majority of people here had Hatton beating Pac, and at least half of the forum had Cotto beating him. And quite a few had Margarito beating Pac. Same people in this thread too. Hell it's the same on other boxing forums too. But after the victories it was some excuse.

I dunno. Good luck picking apart Greb's or Robinson's or Canzoneri's or Barney Ross's or Muhammad Ali's or Joe Louis' or Willie Pep's.

Perfect isn't possible, we are human after all. But the word overwhelming comes to mind.

I'm pretty sure I could do it with Ali since I've seen almost all of his bouts and his biggest bouts have all been written extensively and the circumstances surrounding the fights, I can't say the same thing about the rest of the fighters you listed because there are just a few clips here and there of their career.

I'll tear down Ali's resume right here.

Cooper 1: A club fighter that had Ali seriously hurt in round 4 and the controversy with the split glove incident. Not a great win.

Liston I: How old was Sonny Liston again? No one knows, there are rumors he was pushing close to 40 in their first fight and he only train for a few rounds, not expecting it would last long.

Liston 2: A lot of controversy. Phantom punch anyone? And Ali was never a 1 shot ko artist in his career, but he hurt Liston? And Liston seemed like he was acting, got up, got pummel by Ali a little and Jersey Walcott stopped it.

Patterson 1 and 2: Patterson was 187 pounds against Ali who was around 210-215 during this period. Patterson is basically a LHW by today's modern terms if rehydration is factor in. Plus Patterson was known to be chinny. Never a great HW champ.

Frazier 1: lost decisively in the fight of the century.

Frazier 2: Many people considered Frazier to be close to shot in this fight. NOt a great win with hindsight.

Frazier 3: went life and death with what seemed to be a washed up Frazier. Even Dundee and Ali thought he was shot coming into this fight that's why they wanted it. Ali later admitted he didn't want to come out for the 15th but Futch threw in the towel instead. But it's Frazier that gets the bad rap.

Norton 1,2,3: It can be strongly argued that Ali lost 2 of 3 not Norton. All 3 fights were extremely close and Norton has a strong argument that he won at least 2 of 3 and possibly all 3.

Foreman: Foreman suffered a cut during training camp, plus he was harrassed and hated by locals and didn't have a great training camp. Also Ali never gave him a rematch.

Leon Spinks 1 and 2: A mediocre fighter who had only 7 or 8 pro fights and beat Ali. Ali would regain the title but come on it's Leon Spinks!


So you see it's not hard to tear down any fighter's resume. Just need to have some background info and fight footage for their biggest bouts and tear away one can. Of course I don't believe in all that. BUt that was an example.