Abraham vs. Ward - Saturday - May 14th

[Rantcatrat]

Ward wins by TKO or TD in the middle-to-late rounds. Abraham winning here would be more shocking to me than JuanMa losing to Salido.

As far as the Froch v. Johnson scrap, it's a closer fight, I favor Froch now, but Johnson is a live underdog and may take him to deep waters before Froch pulls it out for a decision win. I'd be surprised if he stopped Johnson. I may take a Johnson bet actually on this one depending on the odds. Fenster?

[Mars_ax]

Ward wins by TKO or TD in the middle-to-late rounds. Abraham winning here would be more shocking to me than JuanMa losing to Salido.

As far as the Froch v. Johnson scrap, it's a closer fight, I favor Froch now, but Johnson is a live underdog and may take him to deep waters before Froch pulls it out for a decision win. I'd be surprised if he stopped Johnson. I may take a Johnson bet actually on this one depending on the odds. Fenster?

I think it depends on how Abe & Ward matchup in the ring, and what version of AA shows up. If the Abe that fought Dirrell shows up, he's in for a long night against Ward. AA does have decent power, and that could be a game changer.
BTW, I don't see Ward knocking Abraham out or stopping him (unless it's on cuts from headbutts), and it wouldn't be that big of shock if Abraham won, Ward is far from unbeatable.

[Cressa121]

Normally I'd back Abraham in this one, but I want to see Froch-Ward and not a Froch-Abraham rematch in the final. That's assuming Froch gets by Johnson, which isn't a foregone conclusion by any means. I think it could be a little ugly but Ward should win a comfortable decision.

Rant, the best odds I can find on Johnson are 333 (10/3) for him to win outright, 550 (11/2) for him on points and 850 (17/2) for a KO/TKO. That's just from a quick look on oddschecker though, somewhere else might have better odds

[Rantcatrat]

Ward wins by TKO or TD in the middle-to-late rounds. Abraham winning here would be more shocking to me than JuanMa losing to Salido.

As far as the Froch v. Johnson scrap, it's a closer fight, I favor Froch now, but Johnson is a live underdog and may take him to deep waters before Froch pulls it out for a decision win. I'd be surprised if he stopped Johnson. I may take a Johnson bet actually on this one depending on the odds. Fenster?

I think it depends on how Abe & Ward matchup in the ring, and what version of AA shows up. If the Abe that fought Dirrell shows up, he's in for a long night against Ward. AA does have decent power, and that could be a game changer.
BTW, I don't see Ward knocking Abraham out or stopping him (unless it's on cuts from headbutts), and it wouldn't be that big of shock if Abraham won, Ward is far from unbeatable.

I respectfully disagree with some of what you said. As to the outcome of the fight, I believe Abraham will lose a technical decision, a la what happened to Kessler when he fought Ward, or his corner will throw in the towel in the middle-later rounds because he so far down on points and isn't showing them anything. I would be impressed if Ward actually knocked out Abraham.

Ward successfully stifled the offenses of both Kessler and Bika and Green who are all naturally bigger men than Abraham. I don't see how he won't also prevent Abraham from getting off his punches. Abraham had power at 160, but I haven't been convinced that power translated well into 168. Moreover, whereas Abraham is coming off of a bad loss, Ward is coming off of a solid win. I believe this is a blow out in the making.

[Mars_ax]

Ward wins by TKO or TD in the middle-to-late rounds. Abraham winning here would be more shocking to me than JuanMa losing to Salido.

As far as the Froch v. Johnson scrap, it's a closer fight, I favor Froch now, but Johnson is a live underdog and may take him to deep waters before Froch pulls it out for a decision win. I'd be surprised if he stopped Johnson. I may take a Johnson bet actually on this one depending on the odds. Fenster?

I think it depends on how Abe & Ward matchup in the ring, and what version of AA shows up. If the Abe that fought Dirrell shows up, he's in for a long night against Ward. AA does have decent power, and that could be a game changer.
BTW, I don't see Ward knocking Abraham out or stopping him (unless it's on cuts from headbutts), and it wouldn't be that big of shock if Abraham won, Ward is far from unbeatable.

I respectfully disagree with some of what you said. As to the outcome of the fight, I believe Abraham will lose a technical decision, a la what happened to Kessler when he fought Ward, or his corner will throw in the towel in the middle-later rounds because he so far down on points and isn't showing them anything. I would be impressed if Ward actually knocked out Abraham.

Ward successfully stifled the offenses of both Kessler and Bika and Green who are all naturally bigger men than Abraham. I don't see how he won't also prevent Abraham from getting off his punches. Abraham had power at 160, but I haven't been convinced that power translated well into 168. Moreover, whereas Abraham is coming off of a bad loss, Ward is coming off of a solid win. I believe this is a blow out in the making.

Well don't get me wrong, I don't expect AA to win this fight, just sayin', i'd love it if it happened.

[Jacktowt]

Arthur will not be knocked out, Abraham is king. He can be beaten, my biggest concern is... will the fight be on may 14. Abraham for life, he symbolizes more than fight, cause in his precieved weakness he finds strength. I think that is something that every scrapper, hound dog, back alley mutt, workin to the bone guy can relate to. Go Abraham. Go Abraham. Go Abraham.

[Hulk]

Arthur will not be knocked out, Abraham is king. He can be beaten, my biggest concern is... will the fight be on may 14. Abraham for life, he symbolizes more than fight, cause in his precieved weakness he finds strength. I think that is something that every scrapper, hound dog, back alley mutt, workin to the bone guy can relate to. Go Abraham. Go Abraham. Go Abraham.

[MMASUX]

Arthur will not be knocked out, Abraham is king. He can be beaten, my biggest concern is... will the fight be on may 14. Abraham for life, he symbolizes more than fight, cause in his precieved weakness he finds strength. I think that is something that every scrapper, hound dog, back alley mutt, workin to the bone guy can relate to. Go Abraham. Go Abraham. Go Abraham.

My thoughts exactly Hulk....

[Dropanuke]

Ward has no skill. Olympics means nout!!
If ward had balls and skill he wouldn't cheat by headbutting. Boxers only do that if they lack mental fortitude
Do what I say and quote me

[MMASUX]

I will admit Ward butted the shit out of Kessler, but i don't remember him butting Green or Bika. I don't remember him butting Edison Miranda or anyone else before that either. So I don't seem to understand why people say Ward always headbutts And for dropanuke saying Ward has no skill, you are crazy.

[Dropanuke]

I don't think ward will go inside with abe but I could b wrong, froch had the most effective gameplan and can't see ward doing that as I reckon ward is easier to hit than froch, ward can b out boxed but if u chase him then that's his game,
Froch would beat ward to the jab all night, but abe is hoping ward goes inside cos he will have a better chance of landing something cos he certainly won't b using the jab well as per usual!

[johnsebastianmiran]

Ward should box if he wants to win this match without getting knocked out. He has the speed and Abraham needs to get a wild dog transplant for that evening to cast a shadow on Ward's chances of winning. I have a feeling it's either a hard fight for them or a sleeping pill for us fans.

[GuyIncognito76]

Despite my dislike for Ward as a sportsman, there is an inherent pointlessness (not to mention anti-climax) of another Abraham/Froch bout.

[Mars_ax]

bump..

Come on guys, no love for Abraham vs. Ward next saturday? I mean just because the fight will probably be an ugly foulfest, and suck ass is no reason not to watch it, hell, the "SOG" might be the next big thing in boxing.

Showtime will likely show the all new trimmed down version of "Criscoball" Arreola vs. Nagy Aguilera on the undercard, let's rock and roll!

[MMASUX]

I'm looking forward to it, i always look forward to some boxing on the weekend. While i don't expect Ward to KO AA, i do expect him to completely outbox him and hopefully send him away for good. I've never liked AA, and think he's outmatched in this tourny. His cover up and try to land the big punch style doesn't work with guys who are more skilled than him, like Froch, Ward etc.