Floyd Mayweather-Victor Ortiz on Sept. 17, 2011. What do you make of this?

[Spicoli]

I think it happens. Saw him beaming at ringside and eyeing that trinket.

[skel1983]

If this is true I think it is a great fight, Floyd fighting a young big powerful 147 fighter I think it would be a great fight even a dangerous fight for Floyd at this stage of his career.

[mafiajoey]

Doesn't matter.....The Pacfarts will rag on Floyd for this one. Yet if Pac said he was fighting Ortiz the Pacfarts would be putting Floyd down even more. But Shane is a great opponent and in his prime too...lol

[mafiajoey]

Don't jump down my back for assuming Box Rec always has the facts straight. But......they do have Floyd and Victor fighting on the 17th in Cowboys Stadium. Please tell me why Cowboys Stadium? Isn't this Arum's turf? And Victor and Floyd aren't connected or going to do favors for Arum. Anyone have any ideas?

[Nameless]

One thing for sure: I could hardly get excited by the idea of that fight.

[Kev]

One thing for sure: I could hardly get excited by the idea of that fight.

Why not? It's a great matchup and Ortiz is one of the most exciting fighters around.

Do you believe in the invincibility of Floyd Mayweather or something? He's only fought twice in 3 years and would have been 18 months out of the ring by the time that fight took place.

Unless you assume he's some kind of super human and judge him differently from all other fighters how could you possibly make the case that this is an unintersting routine comeback fight for him?

If he comes back after 18 months and goes straight to fighting Ortiz that would be a big risk.

[InTheNeutralCorner]

My issue with this is not that Floyd is fighting Ortiz but the timing of the announcement for the fight. He did this by revealing his fight with Juan Manuel Marquez the day before the Pacquiao-Hatton fight. The question that was brought up then (and I'm sure will be brought up again) was why he didn't wait for the conclusion of the Pacquiao fights and then fight Pac. Oh, the Ortiz bout is supposed to be a tune-up fight, just like the JMM fight. How many tune-up fights is he planning to do?

[Gandalf]

It's a decent enough pairing, but Ortiz has only just made his mark. I would like to see him build his career more really. Mayweather should really be thinking about fighting nobody except the winner of the big fight this weekend.

[Nameless]

One thing for sure: I could hardly get excited by the idea of that fight.

Why not? It's a great matchup and Ortiz is one of the most exciting fighters around.

Do you believe in the invincibility of Floyd Mayweather or something? He's only fought twice in 3 years and would have been 18 months out of the ring by the time that fight took place.

Unless you assume he's some kind of super human and judge him differently from all other fighters how could you possibly make the case that this is an unintersting routine comeback fight for him?

If he comes back after 18 months and goes straight to fighting Ortiz that would be a big risk.

I don't think he's a super human being and I absolutely do not contest the excitement Ortiz brings to the ring. However, Ortiz, despite his excitement, is miles behind Mayweather in matter of skills and speed and he doesn't have enough power, in my opinion, to seriously hurt Floyd. I see it as a 12 rounds boring UD for Floyd no matter what, perhaps I am too severe but it is really my impression.

[porkypara]

Don't jump down my back for assuming Box Rec always has the facts straight. But......they do have Floyd and Victor fighting on the 17th in Cowboys Stadium. Please tell me why Cowboys Stadium? Isn't this Arum's turf? And Victor and Floyd aren't connected or going to do favors for Arum. Anyone have any ideas?

Floyd will be lucky to sell 20000 tickets and the stadium will be look empty.

Floyds fights only sell well when he is faceing a well known big name.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Don't jump down my back for assuming Box Rec always has the facts straight. But......they do have Floyd and Victor fighting on the 17th in Cowboys Stadium. Please tell me why Cowboys Stadium? Isn't this Arum's turf? And Victor and Floyd aren't connected or going to do favors for Arum. Anyone have any ideas?

Floyd will be lucky to sell 20000 tickets and the stadium will be look empty.

Floyds fights only sell well when he is faceing a well known big name.

Baldomir isn't a well known name and that fight sold fine, Marquez barely sold 4,000 tickets for his fight with Katsidis and his fight with Mayweather sold out, so don't come with that little golden line of bullshit

[boozeboxer]

Ortiz was on the Kansas City Royals pregame last week. He was alot of fun on the show and I hope he does get a big payday.

[fan johnny]

Don't jump down my back for assuming Box Rec always has the facts straight. But......they do have Floyd and Victor fighting on the 17th in Cowboys Stadium. Please tell me why Cowboys Stadium? Isn't this Arum's turf? And Victor and Floyd aren't connected or going to do favors for Arum. Anyone have any ideas?

Floyd will be lucky to sell 20000 tickets and the stadium will be look empty.

Floyds fights only sell well when he is faceing a well known big name.

Baldomir isn't a well known name and that fight sold fine, Marquez barely sold 4,000 tickets for his fight with Katsidis and his fight with Mayweather sold out, so don't come with that little golden line of bullshit

Now Floyd is certainly a mega PPV draw, but for the live gate he hasn't sold out unless he had an elite "big name opponent" that is a live gate draw. I only know of two live gate sellouts for Mayweather and that is DLH and Mosley. I'm inclined to agree with the poster.

The Floyd Mayweather-Juan Manuel Marquez fight at MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas still are pending, but the live gate totaled $6,811,300, according to figures filed Thursday Sept. 24, 2009 by Golden Boy Promotions with the Nevada Athletic Commission.

The live gate was based on 12,009 tickets sold from a total of 13,116 distributed.

[killersheep]

Don't jump down my back for assuming Box Rec always has the facts straight. But......they do have Floyd and Victor fighting on the 17th in Cowboys Stadium. Please tell me why Cowboys Stadium? Isn't this Arum's turf? And Victor and Floyd aren't connected or going to do favors for Arum. Anyone have any ideas?

Floyd will be lucky to sell 20000 tickets and the stadium will be look empty.

Floyds fights only sell well when he is faceing a well known big name.

proof of this?

[carpetrepairhouston]

I can't believe this thread is going to be more than 2 pages.

HOW in the world is this a conversation