Floyd Mayweather-Victor Ortiz on Sept. 17, 2011. What do you make of this?

[skel1983]

If this is true I think it is a great fight, Floyd fighting a young big powerful 147 fighter I think it would be a great fight even a dangerous fight for Floyd at this stage of his career.

[mafiajoey]

Doesn't matter.....The Pacfarts will rag on Floyd for this one. Yet if Pac said he was fighting Ortiz the Pacfarts would be putting Floyd down even more. But Shane is a great opponent and in his prime too...lol

[mafiajoey]

Don't jump down my back for assuming Box Rec always has the facts straight. But......they do have Floyd and Victor fighting on the 17th in Cowboys Stadium. Please tell me why Cowboys Stadium? Isn't this Arum's turf? And Victor and Floyd aren't connected or going to do favors for Arum. Anyone have any ideas?

[Nameless]

One thing for sure: I could hardly get excited by the idea of that fight.

[Kev]

One thing for sure: I could hardly get excited by the idea of that fight.

Why not? It's a great matchup and Ortiz is one of the most exciting fighters around.

Do you believe in the invincibility of Floyd Mayweather or something? He's only fought twice in 3 years and would have been 18 months out of the ring by the time that fight took place.

Unless you assume he's some kind of super human and judge him differently from all other fighters how could you possibly make the case that this is an unintersting routine comeback fight for him?

If he comes back after 18 months and goes straight to fighting Ortiz that would be a big risk.

[InTheNeutralCorner]

My issue with this is not that Floyd is fighting Ortiz but the timing of the announcement for the fight. He did this by revealing his fight with Juan Manuel Marquez the day before the Pacquiao-Hatton fight. The question that was brought up then (and I'm sure will be brought up again) was why he didn't wait for the conclusion of the Pacquiao fights and then fight Pac. Oh, the Ortiz bout is supposed to be a tune-up fight, just like the JMM fight. How many tune-up fights is he planning to do?

[Gandalf]

My issue with this is not that Floyd is fighting Ortiz but the timing of the announcement for the fight. He did this by revealing his fight with Juan Manuel Marquez the day before the Pacquiao-Hatton fight. The question that was brought up then (and I'm sure will be brought up again) was why he didn't wait for the conclusion of the Pacquiao fights and then fight Pac. Oh, the Ortiz bout is supposed to be a tune-up fight, just like the JMM fight. How many tune-up fights is he planning to do?

Exactly, he should be fighting Manny. Ortiz is more than a tune up, but nobody is demanding it.

[skel1983]

My issue with this is not that Floyd is fighting Ortiz but the timing of the announcement for the fight. He did this by revealing his fight with Juan Manuel Marquez the day before the Pacquiao-Hatton fight. The question that was brought up then (and I'm sure will be brought up again) was why he didn't wait for the conclusion of the Pacquiao fights and then fight Pac. Oh, the Ortiz bout is supposed to be a tune-up fight, just like the JMM fight. How many tune-up fights is he planning to do?

Ha that is a very good point.

[ross]

Oh, the Ortiz bout is supposed to be a tune-up fight, just like the JMM fight. How many tune-up fights is he planning to do?

Well, it was a tune up to Pacquiao untill Manny shit his pants at the thought of drug testing. So he took on the same fighter that Manny is having to dust down as an opponent over a year later

[Gandalf]

It's a decent enough pairing, but Ortiz has only just made his mark. I would like to see him build his career more really. Mayweather should really be thinking about fighting nobody except the winner of the big fight this weekend.

[carpetrepairhouston]

It's a decent enough pairing, but Ortiz has only just made his mark. I would like to see him build his career more really. Mayweather should really be thinking about fighting nobody except the winner of the big fight this weekend.

So if by some miracle, the older, past his prime Mosley beats Pacman, Floyd should fight him again?

lol, wow. I'm a big fan of Ortiz right now but, if this fight were true, it's a super cake walk for Floyd. Ortiz brought heart, but he is no boxer. Floyd will pick him apart and counter every left hand Ortiz throws.

Not even remotely interested in that fight.

[Nameless]

One thing for sure: I could hardly get excited by the idea of that fight.

Why not? It's a great matchup and Ortiz is one of the most exciting fighters around.

Do you believe in the invincibility of Floyd Mayweather or something? He's only fought twice in 3 years and would have been 18 months out of the ring by the time that fight took place.

Unless you assume he's some kind of super human and judge him differently from all other fighters how could you possibly make the case that this is an unintersting routine comeback fight for him?

If he comes back after 18 months and goes straight to fighting Ortiz that would be a big risk.

I don't think he's a super human being and I absolutely do not contest the excitement Ortiz brings to the ring. However, Ortiz, despite his excitement, is miles behind Mayweather in matter of skills and speed and he doesn't have enough power, in my opinion, to seriously hurt Floyd. I see it as a 12 rounds boring UD for Floyd no matter what, perhaps I am too severe but it is really my impression.

[Kev]

One thing for sure: I could hardly get excited by the idea of that fight.

Why not? It's a great matchup and Ortiz is one of the most exciting fighters around.

Do you believe in the invincibility of Floyd Mayweather or something? He's only fought twice in 3 years and would have been 18 months out of the ring by the time that fight took place.

Unless you assume he's some kind of super human and judge him differently from all other fighters how could you possibly make the case that this is an unintersting routine comeback fight for him?

If he comes back after 18 months and goes straight to fighting Ortiz that would be a big risk.

I don't think he's a super human being and I absolutely do not contest the excitement Ortiz brings to the ring. However, Ortiz, despite his excitement, is miles behind Mayweather in matter of skills and speed and he doesn't have enough power, in my opinion, to seriously hurt Floyd. I see it as a 12 rounds boring UD for Floyd no matter what, perhaps I am too severe but it is really my impression.

Ortiz has huge power! Even in his loss to Maidana he put him down two or three times and hes stopped virtually everyone in his career. He put Berto down at least twice, arguably and he floored Peterson as well.

Skillwise he has outboxed everyone he has foiught. You could question his heart following the Maidana loss but he's proven himself against Berto now imo.

Floyd wont have fought in 18 months by September. If he's going to fight Manny I'd want him to have at least one tough fight coming preparation for Manny Pacquiao.

Id love to see him fight Ortiz if it happens, cracking matchup.

[porkypara]

Don't jump down my back for assuming Box Rec always has the facts straight. But......they do have Floyd and Victor fighting on the 17th in Cowboys Stadium. Please tell me why Cowboys Stadium? Isn't this Arum's turf? And Victor and Floyd aren't connected or going to do favors for Arum. Anyone have any ideas?

Floyd will be lucky to sell 20000 tickets and the stadium will be look empty.

Floyds fights only sell well when he is faceing a well known big name.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Don't jump down my back for assuming Box Rec always has the facts straight. But......they do have Floyd and Victor fighting on the 17th in Cowboys Stadium. Please tell me why Cowboys Stadium? Isn't this Arum's turf? And Victor and Floyd aren't connected or going to do favors for Arum. Anyone have any ideas?

Floyd will be lucky to sell 20000 tickets and the stadium will be look empty.

Floyds fights only sell well when he is faceing a well known big name.

Baldomir isn't a well known name and that fight sold fine, Marquez barely sold 4,000 tickets for his fight with Katsidis and his fight with Mayweather sold out, so don't come with that little golden line of bullshit