Should Bin Laden have been taken alive?

[Kev]

I think in the morden world the law does not always seem to equel justice.

Bin Laden deserved to die in a horrible way and thats what he got IMO.It was justice

Also what benifit would it serve to keep him alive.All it would do is fan more extreamists when he would spout his hatred at his trail.

The SEAL team were give the nod and wink the same way the British SAS were when dealing with the IRA.Bring him in dead.

Job well done!

Miles has a point though about Assange. Had the US dropped a killing squad into the mansion he was staying in and slaughtered a bunch of people there would have been an outcry.

Had the Pakistani's launched an attack on some enemy of their state on American soil they would now be facing two weeks of carpet bombing.

Also it makes the British look stupid. America send in their navy seals and kick ass, we sent our SAS into LIbya to help the rebels and they captured us and sent us packing tail between legs.

[porkypara]

I think in the morden world the law does not always seem to equel justice.

Bin Laden deserved to die in a horrible way and thats what he got IMO.It was justice

Also what benifit would it serve to keep him alive.All it would do is fan more extreamists when he would spout his hatred at his trail.

The SEAL team were give the nod and wink the same way the British SAS were when dealing with the IRA.Bring him in dead.

Job well done!

Miles has a point though about Assange. Had the US dropped a killing squad into the mansion he was staying in and slaughtered a bunch of people there would have been an outcry.

Had the Pakistani's launched an attack on some enemy of their state on American soil they would now be facing two weeks of carpet bombing.

Also it makes the British look stupid. America send in their navy seals and kick ass, we sent our SAS into LIbya to help the rebels and they captured us and sent us packing tail between legs.

The seal mission and the sas in Libya are two totaly different cases and they cant really be compaired.

If Pakistan had been willing or able to do the job they would have been left to do it.But unfortunaly Pakistan could not be trusted and the US had to do the job.

[Dizaster]

Another good question in addition to the thread title is :

"Should a photo be released to prove Bin Laden is dead?"

The fact it's been stated he was behind the worst terrorism attack on American soil ever,,, on the World's most wanted list for the better part of the last 10 years,,, had probably 100's of millions of dollars of American taxpayer money spent on finding him and his posse,,, the fact it actually TOOK America 10 years to find him,,, I think it needs to be released...

I don't really buy into any of the reasons given of why they can't provide evidence other than their word...

Assange has some work to do!

[porkypara]

Another good question in addition to the thread title is :

"Should a photo be released to prove Bin Laden is dead?"

The fact it's been stated he was behind the worst terrorism attack on American soil ever,,, on the World's most wanted list for the better part of the last 10 years,,, had probably 100's of millions of dollars of American taxpayer money spent on finding him and his posse,,, the fact it actually TOOK America 10 years to find him,,, I think it needs to be released...

I don't really buy into any of the reasons given of why they can't provide evidence other than their word...

I think Bush should take some of the blame as to why its taken so long as he started the pointless war in Iraq which made the world a more dangerouse place and made millions of new enemys for the west.Also it diverted much needed resourses from the hunt for Bin Laden.

[Hornfinger]

You can't take alive a guy that's been dead for ten years.

or one that never existed in the first place.


And even if he did exist and was stil alive, taking him alive and bringing him to justice in a fair court of law is just not the american way.

The other problem with taking him alive is you'd have to charge him for 9/11. Now the problem with that is the FBI never held him responsible for 9/11 in the first place.

FBI — Ten Most Wanted And his name is spelt differently....


People would find that a bit odd, and then if you did decide to try him for 9/11 you'd have to come up with some kind of evidence not to mention that bin laden may have started talking and showing up more inconsistancies in the official story.

Nope it's better to kill off the boogie man in a blaze of Hollywood movie style bravado, that the american people lap up like a thirsty dog on a hot day.

Just when Obama's approval rating is at the lowest of any american president at this point in a term, just when Obama needs to show he's a leader, just as he's about to start a re election campeign. and now he's off to ground zero to grand stand and no doubt give an emotional and rousing speech about 'getting the job done' or some other 'mission accomplished' style propaganda bullshit.


The whole thing is so absurdly comical to me, that people actually believe and buy into this crap.


My final thoughts.....

If the US went into afghanistan to get bin laden how come they are still there now that the guy is dead?

Doesn't the fact that they 'found' him in Pakistan make the last 10 years of blood shed pointless? (setting aside the real agenda which was to secure oil, opium and lithium) Surely anyone with half a brain should be asking what the real agenda is.

One of the most technologically advanced milliataries with one of the biggest budgets in the world took ten years to find one guy living in a mansion in Pakistan? But hold on they didn't, it was his next door neigbours twitter feed that gave the game away. That doesn't sound the remotest bit ludicris to any of you?

After killing bin laden the corpse is thrown in the sea and the pictures are too disgusting? Just take our word for it we got him? Really?

The media and government have got it so easy. They don't even need to try anymore. People will believe ANYTHING!

[AdamGB]

Now the problem with that is the FBI never held him responsible for 9/11 in the first place.

FBI — Ten Most Wanted And his name is spelt differently....

Jesus Christ...



You do know that the name isn't actually spelt using the English alphabet... it's Arabic and there is no official English translation... a lot of people say Osama and a lot of people INCLUDING THE FBI and CIA say Usama

[Hornfinger]

Now the problem with that is the FBI never held him responsible for 9/11 in the first place.

FBI — Ten Most Wanted And his name is spelt differently....

Jesus Christ...



You do know that the name isn't actually spelt using the English alphabet... it's Arabic and there is no official English translation... a lot of people say Osama and a lot of people INCLUDING THE FBI and CIA say Usama

Out of all the things mentioned in my post you pick up a descrepency on spelling

[boozeboxer]

Now the problem with that is the FBI never held him responsible for 9/11 in the first place.

FBI — Ten Most Wanted And his name is spelt differently....

Jesus Christ...



You do know that the name isn't actually spelt using the English alphabet... it's Arabic and there is no official English translation... a lot of people say Osama and a lot of people INCLUDING THE FBI and CIA say Usama

Out of all the things mentioned in my post you pick up a descrepency on spelling

Because it was completely calling bullshit on the point!

[Hornfinger]

Now the problem with that is the FBI never held him responsible for 9/11 in the first place.

FBI — Ten Most Wanted And his name is spelt differently....

Jesus Christ...



You do know that the name isn't actually spelt using the English alphabet... it's Arabic and there is no official English translation... a lot of people say Osama and a lot of people INCLUDING THE FBI and CIA say Usama

Out of all the things mentioned in my post you pick up a descrepency on spelling

Because it was completely calling bullshit on the point!

So that blows everything else out of the water does it?

That's weak, very weak.

[AdamGB]

Now the problem with that is the FBI never held him responsible for 9/11 in the first place.

FBI — Ten Most Wanted And his name is spelt differently....

Jesus Christ...



You do know that the name isn't actually spelt using the English alphabet... it's Arabic and there is no official English translation... a lot of people say Osama and a lot of people INCLUDING THE FBI and CIA say Usama

Out of all the things mentioned in my post you pick up a descrepency on spelling

Because it was completely calling bullshit on the point!

So that blows everything else out of the water does it?

That's weak, very weak.

Nobody said that it blew everything else out of the water did they (there's not much point in that... you get no where with tin foils)... I see you keep side stepping around what I said though.

I'll just take your inability to address the point by repeatedly saying "why say that! why say that?! weak weak weak!" as an admission that it was in irrelevant and retarded point to bring up and that you are ignorant of international languages, even at the broadest, simplest level.

[boozeboxer]

Now the problem with that is the FBI never held him responsible for 9/11 in the first place.

FBI — Ten Most Wanted And his name is spelt differently....

Jesus Christ...



You do know that the name isn't actually spelt using the English alphabet... it's Arabic and there is no official English translation... a lot of people say Osama and a lot of people INCLUDING THE FBI and CIA say Usama

Out of all the things mentioned in my post you pick up a descrepency on spelling

Because it was completely calling bullshit on the point!

So that blows everything else out of the water does it?

That's weak, very weak.

How is it weak refuting evidence that tends to weaken your case?

And to debate someone you don't necessarily have to "blow everything else out of the water" but you discriminate facts, point out inconsistencies that gives a blow to your credibility, etc. You test someone's credibility on one thing that is false and that often leads to clearer thinking that a so-called "expert" has other notions that are without merit.

[AdamGB]

Now the problem with that is the FBI never held him responsible for 9/11 in the first place.

FBI — Ten Most Wanted And his name is spelt differently....

Jesus Christ...



You do know that the name isn't actually spelt using the English alphabet... it's Arabic and there is no official English translation... a lot of people say Osama and a lot of people INCLUDING THE FBI and CIA say Usama

Out of all the things mentioned in my post you pick up a descrepency on spelling

Because you were saying that the FBI website has spelt it differently as if it was somehow relevant to some conspiracy... when in actual fact it just highlighted your lack of knowledge regarding what you were trying to speak with authority about?

Honestly, I could try and go into your other points... but I doubt we'd get very far. You should be thankful that I've just educated you and now you know that not everybody uses the English Alphabet and how this may affect translations etc.

[El Kabong]

"The problem with Arabic is that its difficult to read" - OSS 117

[AdamGB]

أسامة بن محمد بن عوض بن لادن‎

[Shamrock]

When anyone starts to say he was unarmed and it was wrong I think about the innocents in the Twin Towers and on the tubes/bus in London - they were unarmed too.

You go around blowing people up then don't expect when justice comes calling that it's coming with a cup of tea and a blanket. If there was intel to be gained then yes he should have been taken alive if not then to me a double tap to the head was quicker and more humane than he deserved - period.