Pacquiao vs. Mosley - Fight Night talk!

[Gandalf]

That was a horrible fight and told us nothing and yes I will be critical. I was supporting Mosley, but criticised this fight time and time again and it has only confirmed to all of us why there was no need for this fight to be signed in the first place.

Mosley used the Barrera 2 model and threw about 7 right hands all night. He circled effectively, but showed that he cannot throw more than a 2 punch combo without running in and holding. Manny Pac merely did what he had to do, he showed us nothing new.

What this has also showed is that Manny Pac is nothing more than an opportunist when it comes to matchmaking. A cheater followed by a former great who hasn't won in a number of years.

I am sure I am not alone in feeling this way. Few of us believed that this fight should have been made and the boos in the crowd confirmed why.

It was a very poor fight.

[ICB]

That was a horrible fight and told us nothing and yes I will be critical. I was supporting Mosley, but criticised this fight time and time again and it has only confirmed to all of us why there was no need for this fight to be signed in the first place.

Mosley used the Barrera 2 model and threw about 7 right hands all night. He circled effectively, but showed that he cannot throw more than a 2 punch combo without running in and holding. Manny Pac merely did what he had to do, he showed us nothing new.

What this has also showed is that Manny Pac is nothing more than an opportunist when it comes to matchmaking. A cheater followed by a former great who hasn't won in a number of years.

I am sure I am not alone in feeling this way. Few of us believed that this fight should have been made and the boos in the crowd confirmed why.

It was a very poor fight.

I thought MAB done better than Mosley though, i had him winning 3 rounds if i remember rightly.

But yea poor effort from Mosley, he actually touched Pacquiao's gloves more than he hit him LOL.

[killersheep]

Mosley did have success with the armpit up push in the clinch, he should have done that more.

[Gandalf]

That was a horrible fight and told us nothing and yes I will be critical. I was supporting Mosley, but criticised this fight time and time again and it has only confirmed to all of us why there was no need for this fight to be signed in the first place.

Mosley used the Barrera 2 model and threw about 7 right hands all night. He circled effectively, but showed that he cannot throw more than a 2 punch combo without running in and holding. Manny Pac merely did what he had to do, he showed us nothing new.

What this has also showed is that Manny Pac is nothing more than an opportunist when it comes to matchmaking. A cheater followed by a former great who hasn't won in a number of years.

I am sure I am not alone in feeling this way. Few of us believed that this fight should have been made and the boos in the crowd confirmed why.

It was a very poor fight.

I thought MAB done better than Mosley though, i had him winning 3 rounds if i remember rightly.

But yea poor effort from Mosley, he actually touched Pacquiao's gloves more than he hit him LOL.

Barrera did. Unless you are Margarito it seems that Pac has that mental edge from the go at these weights. Nobody outside of Marquez is willing to box him smartly with conviction.

On the way up people thought they could trade with him, now it's gone the other way and it's a case of not being willing to throw your own punches whatsoever. Well, not quite true Margarito gave it a fair shot, he just didn't have the skills.

[marbleheadmaui]

I gaven't read the thread and don't know what you guys thought but here's what I saw:
1. An overmatched Shane realized he was over matched.
2. Shane stopped being able to let his hands go 18 months ago
3. Manny's worst performance since before the Diaz fight. Lousy balance, on one foot way to often, wild right hand, fighting in a straight line. It was the old Manny.
4. Manny's will and desire remain undiminished and startling

My big question is the following. Did Manny overtrain (a risk in older fighters) or has Father Time really begun to make an impact on him?

[fan johnny]

That was a horrible fight and told us nothing and yes I will be critical. I was supporting Mosley, but criticised this fight time and time again and it has only confirmed to all of us why there was no need for this fight to be signed in the first place.

Mosley used the Barrera 2 model and threw about 7 right hands all night. He circled effectively, but showed that he cannot throw more than a 2 punch combo without running in and holding. Manny Pac merely did what he had to do, he showed us nothing new.

What this has also showed is that Manny Pac is nothing more than an opportunist when it comes to matchmaking. A cheater followed by a former great who hasn't won in a number of years.

I am sure I am not alone in feeling this way. Few of us believed that this fight should have been made and the boos in the crowd confirmed why.

It was a very poor fight.

I agree it was a horrible fight. It went like a lot of Floyd's fights. But it doesn't reflect on a damn thing except what Mosley was incapable of. I think he caught the Clottey syndrome.

As far as Pac picking opponents, it's more a reflection on Top Rank. We all know who's next in line. I think the only chance for Floyd to get the big money fight with Pac is to step up to the plate now because I think there won't be any more opportunity in the future. Floyd will be kicking himself for not taking the last offer till he reaches his grave.

[Shesh]

One has to take Bella Gonzalez from Mosley and give to a real man.

[Pavlik]

One has to take Bella Gonzalez from Mosley and give to a real man.

i want to sad click you right now

[Pavlik]

That was a horrible fight and told us nothing and yes I will be critical. I was supporting Mosley, but criticised this fight time and time again and it has only confirmed to all of us why there was no need for this fight to be signed in the first place.

Mosley used the Barrera 2 model and threw about 7 right hands all night. He circled effectively, but showed that he cannot throw more than a 2 punch combo without running in and holding. Manny Pac merely did what he had to do, he showed us nothing new.

What this has also showed is that Manny Pac is nothing more than an opportunist when it comes to matchmaking. A cheater followed by a former great who hasn't won in a number of years.

I am sure I am not alone in feeling this way. Few of us believed that this fight should have been made and the boos in the crowd confirmed why.

It was a very poor fight.

I agree it was a horrible fight. It went like a lot of Floyd's fights. But it doesn't reflect on a damn thing except what Mosley was incapable of. I think he caught the Clottey syndrome.

As far as Pac picking opponents, it's more a reflection on Top Rank. We all know who's next in line. I think the only chance for Floyd to get the big money fight with Pac is to step up to the plate now because I think there won't be any more opportunity in the future. Floyd will be kicking himself for not taking the last offer till he reaches his grave.

is Marquez next? hopefully its Ortiz or one of the other beltholders so PAC could unify the welters.

[Gandalf]

That was a horrible fight and told us nothing and yes I will be critical. I was supporting Mosley, but criticised this fight time and time again and it has only confirmed to all of us why there was no need for this fight to be signed in the first place.

Mosley used the Barrera 2 model and threw about 7 right hands all night. He circled effectively, but showed that he cannot throw more than a 2 punch combo without running in and holding. Manny Pac merely did what he had to do, he showed us nothing new.

What this has also showed is that Manny Pac is nothing more than an opportunist when it comes to matchmaking. A cheater followed by a former great who hasn't won in a number of years.

I am sure I am not alone in feeling this way. Few of us believed that this fight should have been made and the boos in the crowd confirmed why.

It was a very poor fight.

I agree it was a horrible fight. It went like a lot of Floyd's fights. But it doesn't reflect on a damn thing except what Mosley was incapable of. I think he caught the Clottey syndrome.

As far as Pac picking opponents, it's more a reflection on Top Rank. We all know who's next in line. I think the only chance for Floyd to get the big money fight with Pac is to step up to the plate now because I think there won't be any more opportunity in the future. Floyd will be kicking himself for not taking the last offer till he reaches his grave.

Clottey was a punching machine compared to this version of Mosley. Mosley threw only 260 punches against Manny whilst Clottey threw 399. It was an absolute shocker from Shane. I have never seen a top level fighter lose all of their confidence and will like that. He threw the right hand about seven times in the fight and refused to unglue it from his chin.

Surely he has to retire now. There is nowhere for him to go and he is obviously a long way down the totem pole. Judging on how he has been in the comeback off the 18 month layoff I think he has slipped a lot physically. The signs were there with Mayorga, but there is little room for doubt now. He still has a good boxing brain, going 12 with Manny is achievement enough, but unlike someone like Cotto, Mosley was never really in the fight or posed a threat. He might have edged round 1, but a shut out from then on. The late KD was a mistake.

[rjj tszyu]

After last night I'm even more certain Mayweather would school Pac. Mosley has never been a huge counter puncher but he tried adopting those tactics last night and had SOME success. Mayweather will land right hands on Pac coming in all night and I can even see him stopping Pac. IMO Pacquiao is tailor made for Floyd Mayweather.

I just hope they get the fight on now. We've seen Pac-Marquez twice and all that happens is Arum pays the judges off every time. We all know how one sided Mayweather vs Ortiz would be and unless Floyd truly believes he needs a tune up due to his inactivity I think the time has to be now before either fighter can use the age excuse. Mayweather is 34 and should he fight again before a Pac fight he would be 35 (assuming that they fought after that). Pac is 32 and people were suggesting last night (although I disagree) that he may be on the slide. The time is now for Floyd vs Pacquiao or it will be never.

Both men need to take a leaf from Haye and Wlad and sign up for a 50/50 fight straight down the middle on all fronts and agree to fight where most money is being offered. IMO there has never been a fight more deserving of a 50/50 purse split!

[:::PSL:::]

Pacquiao was going for the kill every freaking round. Right hook, jab-jab and power straight left. That's all I saw from him. No under-and-out. No darting in-and-out. It was all in-in-in! Berstein pointed it out right away in early rounds that Pac wasn't making lateral movements. Pac took Mosely's legs after he knocked him down. I knew Mosely was gonna run all night after that. If he gave Mosely a chance to make it a boxing match after the third round, Pac would've gotten a KO win just like the Hatton fight.

Very disappointing fight.

Arce stole the show. What a great win!

[bcollins]

I honestly thought to myself that Manny may have carried Shane. It didn't look like he was going after him - he didn't seem to be interested in the KO. It just looked like a glorified sparring session.

[the wiz]

I honestly thought to myself that Manny may have carried Shane. It didn't look like he was going after him - he didn't seem to be interested in the KO. It just looked like a glorified sparring session.

It really looked like a sparring session with Mosley touching gloves after every round.