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    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Marquez. Pacquaio will knock him out.
    Sure PAC will KO Marquez having him fight at 147 will put lead plates on JMM and place him at a big disadvantage. Plus JMM is older and has shown age in last couple of fights being so easy to hit. JMM will take anything PAC offers and sell himself out. Fight at 147, sure take the tests! of JMM will not do ask that of PAC. What other option is there he has tucked in all the washed up old former champions and Arum's marketing has made him look greater than he really is. The next question is which former chamion has recently lost and is fragile mentally but can bring interest = Berto. (Arum formula) I keep hearing how no young fighter has earned the right so cancel Ortiz is too young, fast and dangerous. PBF ...... PAC will not take tests so JMM at a disadvantage weight class is only option. The substitute Berto but I doubt it. Bradley has no power or appeal. However Pac fans will find a way to justify this match like this recent Mosley fight and recent past fights .The better question is who after JMM?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Addicted to Boxing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Marquez. Pacquaio will knock him out.
    Sure PAC will ko Marquez having him fight at 147 will put lead plates on JMM and place him at a big disadvantage. Plus JMM is older and has show
    n age in last couple of fights being so easy to hit. JMM will take anything PAC offers and sell himself out. Fight at 147, sure take the tests! of JMM will not do ask that of PAC. What other option is there he has tucked in all the washed up old former champions and Arum's marketing has made him look greater than he really is. The next question is which former chamion has recently lost and is fragile mentally but can bring interest = Berto. I keep hearing how no young fighter has earned the right so cancel Ortiz too young, fast and dangerous. PBF ...... Will not take tests so JMM at a disadvantage weight class is only option. The substitute Berto but I doubt it. Bradley no power or appeal. But Pac huggers will find a way to justify like this recent Mosley and recent past fights .The better question is who after JMM?
    All this weight disparity thing with Marquez is an urban legend blown way out of proportion. Marquez is not obligated to make 147 if the fight is made their. He can weigh in at 141. Manny consistently weighs in at 145 and is probably only a few pounds heavier at fight time. Fact of the matter is they would be just a few pounds apart at fight time and theirs really no size mismatch at all. Think about when Armstrong first went to 147 he had to drink small lakes to make himself appear bigger on the scales.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Addicted to Boxing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Marquez. Pacquaio will knock him out.
    Sure PAC will ko Marquez having him fight at 147 will put lead plates on JMM and place him at a big disadvantage. Plu


    s JMM is older and has show
    n age in last couple of fights being so easy to hit. JMM will take anything PAC offers and sell himself out. Fight at 147, sure take the tests! of JMM will not do ask that of PAC. What other option is there he has tucked in all the washed up old former champions and Arum's marketing has made him look greater than he really is. The next question is which former chamion has recently lost and is fragile mentally but can bring interest = Berto. I keep hearing how no young fighter has earned the right so cancel Ortiz too young, fast and dangerous. PBF ...... Will not take tests so JMM at a disadvantage weight class is only option. The substitute Berto but I doubt it. Bradley no power or appeal. But Pac huggers will find a way to justify like this recent Mosley and recent past fights .The better question is who after JMM?
    All this weight disparity thing with Marquez is an urban legend blown way out of proportion. Marquez is not obligated to make 147 if the fight is made their. He can weigh in at 141. Manny consistently weighs in at 145 and is probably only a few pounds heavier at fight time. Fact of the matter is they would be just a few pounds apart at fight time and theirs really no size mismatch at all. Think about when Armstrong first went to 147 he had to drink small lakes to make himself appear bigger on the scales.
    If an urban legend, why did PAC make catch weight guidelines with previous fights?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Addicted to Boxing View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Marquez. Pacquaio will knock him out.
    Sure PAC will ko Marquez having him fight at 147 will put lead plates on JMM and place him at a big disadvantage. Plu


    s JMM is older and has show
    n age in last couple of fights being so easy to hit. JMM will take anything PAC offers and sell himself out. Fight at 147, sure take the tests! of JMM will not do ask that of PAC. What other option is there he has tucked in all the washed up old former champions and Arum's marketing has made him look greater than he really is. The next question is which former chamion has recently lost and is fragile mentally but can bring interest = Berto. I keep hearing how no young fighter has earned the right so cancel Ortiz too young, fast and dangerous. PBF ...... Will not take tests so JMM at a disadvantage weight class is only option. The substitute Berto but I doubt it. Bradley no power or appeal. But Pac huggers will find a way to justify like this recent Mosley and recent past fights .The better question is who after JMM?
    All this weight disparity thing with Marquez is an urban legend blown way out of proportion. Marquez is not obligated to make 147 if the fight is made their. He can weigh in at 141. Manny consistently weighs in at 145 and is probably only a few pounds heavier at fight time. Fact of the matter is they would be just a few pounds apart at fight time and theirs really no size mismatch at all. Think about when Armstrong first went to 147 he had to drink small lakes to make himself appear bigger on the scales.
    If an urban legend, why did PAC make catch weight guidelines with previous fights?
    Because he's a small welter weight.

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    Default Re: Who does Pac fight next?

    From a legacy perspective I can only think of three fights that matter

    Floyd
    JMM at 135
    A suicide mission to win the legitimate middleweight title against Sergio Martinez

    I don't see any of those happening.

    From a moneymaking point of view? The following could be boxed up to sell I suppose
    JMM at 140-147
    Zab (stilla dangerous guy)
    Kahn
    Bradley
    Ortiz
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    Quote Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui View Post
    From a legacy perspective I can only think of three fights that matter

    Floyd
    JMM at 135
    A suicide mission to win the legitimate middleweight title against Sergio Martinez

    I don't see any of those happening.

    From a moneymaking point of view? The following could be boxed up to sell I suppose
    JMM at 140-147
    Zab (stilla dangerous guy)
    Kahn
    Bradley
    Ortiz
    Well spoken but suicide is how legends are made . Now a days they are made on PPV, Blogs and social sites by non boxing fans on Facebook. Sugar Ray Leonard fought guys on their terms not what PAC is doing/ done. The JMM fight should be at 135.140 is midground, 147 unacceptable or yes a PBF left over end result.

    Otherwise follow protocol and fight a top 1-2 contender. Stop fueling the situation!

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    Marquez. Pacquaio will knock him out.
    Sure PAC will ko Marquez having him fight at 147 will put lead plates on JMM and place him at a big disadvantage. Plu


    s JMM is older and has show
    n age in last couple of fights being so easy to hit. JMM will take anything PAC offers and sell himself out. Fight at 147, sure take the tests! of JMM will not do ask that of PAC. What other option is there he has tucked in all the washed up old former champions and Arum's marketing has made him look greater than he really is. The next question is which former chamion has recently lost and is fragile mentally but can bring interest = Berto. I keep hearing how no young fighter has earned the right so cancel Ortiz too young, fast and dangerous. PBF ...... Will not take tests so JMM at a disadvantage weight class is only option. The substitute Berto but I doubt it. Bradley no power or appeal. But Pac huggers will find a way to justify like this recent Mosley and recent past fights .The better question is who after JMM?
    All this weight disparity thing with Marquez is an urban legend blown way out of proportion. Marquez is not obligated to make 147 if the fight is made their. He can weigh in at 141. Manny consistently weighs in at 145 and is probably only a few pounds heavier at fight time. Fact of the matter is they would be just a few pounds apart at fight time and theirs really no size mismatch at all. Think about when Armstrong first went to 147 he had to drink small lakes to make himself appear bigger on the scales.
    If an urban legend, why did PAC make catch weight guidelines with previous fights?
    Because he's a small welter weight.
    You are complete joke so only PAC warrants special treatment? JMM is an even smaller welterweight so the fight should be at 140! So if PAC fight Martinez he should fight at Martinez weight class no if's and or butt' s (like you)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Addicted to Boxing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Addicted to Boxing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Addicted to Boxing View Post
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    Marquez. Pacquaio will knock him out.
    Sure PAC will ko Marquez having him fight at 147 will put lead plates on JMM and place him at a big disadvantage. Plu


    s JMM is older and has show
    n age in last couple of fights being so easy to hit. JMM will take anything PAC offers and sell himself out. Fight at 147, sure take the tests! of JMM will not do ask that of PAC. What other option is there he has tucked in all the washed up old former champions and Arum's marketing has made him look greater than he really is. The next question is which former chamion has recently lost and is fragile mentally but can bring interest = Berto. I keep hearing how no young fighter has earned the right so cancel Ortiz too young, fast and dangerous. PBF ...... Will not take tests so JMM at a disadvantage weight class is only option. The substitute Berto but I doubt it. Bradley no power or appeal. But Pac huggers will find a way to justify like this recent Mosley and recent past fights .The better question is who after JMM?
    All this weight disparity thing with Marquez is an urban legend blown way out of proportion. Marquez is not obligated to make 147 if the fight is made their. He can weigh in at 141. Manny consistently weighs in at 145 and is probably only a few pounds heavier at fight time. Fact of the matter is they would be just a few pounds apart at fight time and theirs really no size mismatch at all. Think about when Armstrong first went to 147 he had to drink small lakes to make himself appear bigger on the scales.
    If an urban legend, why did PAC make catch weight guidelines with previous fights?
    Because he's a small welter weight.
    You are complete joke so only PAC warrants special treatment? JMM is an even smaller welterweight so the fight should be at 140! So if PAC fight Martinez he should fight at Martinez weight class no if's and or butt' s (like you)
    Whats with the insults you mental midget? I said their is no size difference and if there is it would be but a few pounds at fight time. You then asked why Manny asked for catchweigts and I answered that to.Btw I hate catchweights with a passion and am no fan of Manny so put a cork in it. If you want to talk boxing then talk boxing and if you want to talk shit then talk to yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Addicted to Boxing View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Addicted to Boxing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Marquez. Pacquaio will knock him out.
    Sure PAC will ko Marquez having him fight at 147 will put lead plates on JMM and place him at a big disadvantage. Plu


    s JMM is older and has show
    n age in last couple of fights being so easy to hit. JMM will take anything PAC offers and sell himself out. Fight at 147, sure take the tests! of JMM will not do ask that of PAC. What other option is there he has tucked in all the washed up old former champions and Arum's marketing has made him look greater than he really is. The next question is which former chamion has recently lost and is fragile mentally but can bring interest = Berto. I keep hearing how no young fighter has earned the right so cancel Ortiz too young, fast and dangerous. PBF ...... Will not take tests so JMM at a disadvantage weight class is only option. The substitute Berto but I doubt it. Bradley no power or appeal. But Pac huggers will find a way to justify like this recent Mosley and recent past fights .The better question is who after JMM?
    All this weight disparity thing with Marquez is an urban legend blown way out of proportion. Marquez is not obligated to make 147 if the fight is made their. He can weigh in at 141. Manny consistently weighs in at 145 and is probably only a few pounds heavier at fight time. Fact of the matter is they would be just a few pounds apart at fight time and theirs really no size mismatch at all. Think about when Armstrong first went to 147 he had to drink small lakes to make himself appear bigger on the scales.
    If an urban legend, why did PAC make catch weight guidelines with previous fights?
    Because he's a small welter weight.
    You are complete joke so only PAC warrants special treatment? JMM is an even smaller welterweight so the fight should be at 140! So if PAC fight Martinez he should fight at Martinez weight class no if's and or butt' s (like you)
    Whats with the insults you mental midget? I said their is no size difference and if there is it would be but a few pounds at fight time. You then asked why Manny asked for catchweigts and I answered that to.Btw I hate catchweights with a passion and am no fan of Manny so put a cork in it. If you want to talk boxing then talk boxing and if you want to talk shit then talk to yourself.
    So then you agree the fight should be at no more than 140? JMM fought at 145 vs PBF and was soooooooooooslow and fat arounf the mid section.

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    Default Re: Who does Pac fight next?

    i think if the floyd fight doesn't happen, he should just retire, he's cleaned the sport out, if he retires now he goes down as one of the greatest. But regardless of what they say, i think floyd and manny both NEED each other, its a fight that has to happen, the rematch, and maybe a trilogy and then they can both retire and be p4p number 1 and 2 because i personally think they have surpassed many fighters out there, were looking at speacial fighter here folks.

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    Default Re: Who does Pac fight next?

    Pac "pussifies" present and potential opponents... that said, I think he should just retire, for fights where he would excel, the slambang affair, will be slim to non existent.

    The fights that are left no longer present interest despite being money fights.

    He should just take solace in the fact that he fought the best opponents on credit and left everything in the ring every fight night.

    Let the naysayers have a field day... not only will they not have enough garbage to taint his name, they too will only sound libelous and defaming, but only cheaply compared "wannabe's" to that of the Mayweathers.
    Last edited by KananKrus; 05-08-2011 at 09:57 PM.

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