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    I can't see how you can leave out Roy Jones jr and then there is Bob Foster who was Light Heavy king from 1968-1974 and only lost to Ali and Frazier in that time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN View Post
    I can't see how you can leave out Roy Jones jr and then there is Bob Foster who was Light Heavy king from 1968-1974 and only lost to Ali and Frazier in that time.

    Outside of Charles and maybe Spinks I dont really see many having a shot.

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    I can't see how you can leave out Roy Jones jr and then there is Bob Foster who was Light Heavy king from 1968-1974 and only lost to Ali and Frazier in that time.

    Outside of Charles and maybe Spinks I dont really see many having a shot.
    I assume you mean against Jones. See I think a really good technician like say a Harold Johnson would use his craft to beat Jones handily. MAB gave us a great example when he beat Hamed what happens when good talent plus craft runs into great talent with technical flaws. I mean Hamed was faster, stronger, had better reflexes and got crushed.

    The list of guys at 175 who'd give Jones real trouble I think is double digits.

    What I wonder about with Jones is had he been born in 1922 and HAD to learn his craft to survive in the 1940's, how amazing could he have become? THAT is a scary proposition!
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    Quote Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui View Post
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    I can't see how you can leave out Roy Jones jr and then there is Bob Foster who was Light Heavy king from 1968-1974 and only lost to Ali and Frazier in that time.

    Outside of Charles and maybe Spinks I dont really see many having a shot.
    I assume you mean against Jones. See I think a really good technician like say a Harold Johnson would use his craft to beat Jones handily. MAB gave us a great example when he beat Hamed what happens when good talent plus craft runs into great talent with technical flaws. I mean Hamed was faster, stronger, had better reflexes and got crushed.



    The list of guys at 175 who'd give Jones real trouble I think is double digits.

    What I wonder about with Jones is had he been born in 1922 and HAD to learn his craft to survive in the 1940's, how amazing could he have become? THAT is a scary proposition!
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    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
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    I can't see how you can leave out Roy Jones jr and then there is Bob Foster who was Light Heavy king from 1968-1974 and only lost to Ali and Frazier in that time.

    Outside of Charles and maybe Spinks I dont really see many having a shot.
    I assume you mean against Jones. See I think a really good technician like say a Harold Johnson would use his craft to beat Jones handily. MAB gave us a great example when he beat Hamed what happens when good talent plus craft runs into great talent with technical flaws. I mean Hamed was faster, stronger, had better reflexes and got crushed.



    The list of guys at 175 who'd give Jones real trouble I think is double digits.

    What I wonder about with Jones is had he been born in 1922 and HAD to learn his craft to survive in the 1940's, how amazing could he have become? THAT is a scary proposition!
    Both testicles for a time machine. Ok 1. Make it the left one. No right. Just cut one off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN View Post
    I can't see how you can leave out Roy Jones jr and then there is Bob Foster who was Light Heavy king from 1968-1974 and only lost to Ali and Frazier in that time.
    Leaving Jones out was easy

    He doesn't have a legit claim as Champion in any division and he left waaaaay too many guys unfought. Now was he an extraordinary combination of speed and power? You betcha!

    I should be SHOT for not mentioning the Sherriff. [Cue Bob Marley]
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    Quote Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN View Post
    I can't see how you can leave out Roy Jones jr and then there is Bob Foster who was Light Heavy king from 1968-1974 and only lost to Ali and Frazier in that time.
    Leaving Jones out was easy

    He doesn't have a legit claim as Champion in any division and he left waaaaay too many guys unfought. Now was he an extraordinary combination of speed and power? You betcha!

    I should be SHOT for not mentioning the Sherriff. [Cue Bob Marley]

    Now we have an issue. Pretzel logic friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN View Post
    I can't see how you can leave out Roy Jones jr and then there is Bob Foster who was Light Heavy king from 1968-1974 and only lost to Ali and Frazier in that time.
    Leaving Jones out was easy

    He doesn't have a legit claim as Champion in any division and he left waaaaay too many guys unfought. Now was he an extraordinary combination of speed and power? You betcha!

    I should be SHOT for not mentioning the Sherriff. [Cue Bob Marley]

    Now we have an issue. Pretzel logic friend.

    I realize I'd be shot, not the Sherriff, but how bout a little slack?
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    Quote Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN View Post
    I can't see how you can leave out Roy Jones jr and then there is Bob Foster who was Light Heavy king from 1968-1974 and only lost to Ali and Frazier in that time.
    Leaving Jones out was easy

    He doesn't have a legit claim as Champion in any division and he left waaaaay too many guys unfought. Now was he an extraordinary combination of speed and power? You betcha!

    I should be SHOT for not mentioning the Sherriff. [Cue Bob Marley]

    Now we have an issue. Pretzel logic friend.

    I realize I'd be shot, not the Sherriff, but how bout a little slack?
    Yup he could have fought Watson, Collins, Eubank, Benn. They could have also fought him in that 160/68 area. People seem to forget what a machine this man was at 160/168/ 175. Dariusz ducked Roy just as much as Roy ducked him. Jones was the man at 175 regardless of his collection of tin. He would have kicked the snot out of Dariusz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN View Post
    I can't see how you can leave out Roy Jones jr and then there is Bob Foster who was Light Heavy king from 1968-1974 and only lost to Ali and Frazier in that time.
    Leaving Jones out was easy

    He doesn't have a legit claim as Champion in any division and he left waaaaay too many guys unfought. Now was he an extraordinary combination of speed and power? You betcha!

    I should be SHOT for not mentioning the Sherriff. [Cue Bob Marley]

    Now we have an issue. Pretzel logic friend.

    I realize I'd be shot, not the Sherriff, but how bout a little slack?
    Yup he could have fought Watson, Collins, Eubank, Benn. They could have also fought him in that 160/68 area. People seem to forget what a machine this man was at 160/168/ 175. Dariusz ducked Roy just as much as Roy ducked him. Jones was the man at 175 regardless of his collection of tin. He would have kicked the snot out of Dariusz.
    Yeah and Tyson would have kicked the snot out of Douglas and Duran would have kicked the snot out of Laing and Chiquita would have buried Roland Pascua

    You know and I know a fighter has either done it or he hasn't. Woulda coulda shoulda carries no weight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui View Post
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    I can't see how you can leave out Roy Jones jr and then there is Bob Foster who was Light Heavy king from 1968-1974 and only lost to Ali and Frazier in that time.
    Leaving Jones out was easy

    He doesn't have a legit claim as Champion in any division and he left waaaaay too many guys unfought. Now was he an extraordinary combination of speed and power? You betcha!

    I should be SHOT for not mentioning the Sherriff. [Cue Bob Marley]

    Now we have an issue. Pretzel logic friend.

    I realize I'd be shot, not the Sherriff, but how bout a little slack?
    Yup he could have fought Watson, Collins, Eubank, Benn. They could have also fought him in that 160/68 area. People seem to forget what a machine this man was at 160/168/ 175. Dariusz ducked Roy just as much as Roy ducked him. Jones was the man at 175 regardless of his collection of tin. He would have kicked the snot out of Dariusz.
    Yeah and Tyson would have kicked the snot out of Douglas and Duran would have kicked the snot out of Laing and Chiquita would have buried Roland Pascua

    You know and I know a fighter has either done it or he hasn't. Woulda coulda shoulda carries no weight.
    Yeah and to repeat the reverse is also the case. Roy was the man especially at 175 and Dariusz had no intention of coming to this continent to fight him.

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