WTF is PBF demanding w/ those Blood Tests???

[InTheNeutralCorner]

There was no stipulation to 18 days before. Random means just that, it could be 1 day before it could be 20 days before. Neither shane or floyd knew the last test would be 18 days out.

Shane had admitted to using drugs. So why didn't Floyd insist that he has a drug test up until the day of the fight. If 18 days before the fight is good enough for Floyd, then 14 days is even better. But that 14 days cut-off isn't even the issue in the second negotiation, Floyd just decided to go on vacation.

what you have just written has NO baring what so ever on the question mark over manny's head.

What question mark?

Manny tried to stipulate no testing 14 days prior. Sorry son, that's not how it works and that is the behaviour of someone with something to hide. Random means random full stop.

You question Manny's stipulation and yet you don't question Floyd acting as the boxing commissioner and trying to impose his own rules.

Manny's name has been soiled. He has been accused. If there is no question mark over his head then why do these threads keep popping up and why is it still talked about in the press?

Just because someone is accused, it doesn't mean that their name get soiled. We all get accussed of something all the time. This thread is not even about Manny, it's about Floyd's demand with regards to the drug test. If this issue is still brought up in the press, it's not about Manny's allege refusal because he had addressed that in the second negotiation. Not unless you have access to those RECENT press that says otherwise, maybe you would care enough to share it with us.

The arguement starts and finnishes with Manny Pacquiao was offered a test and refused and then came up with rediculous excuses and even stipulations.

You are talking about what transpired in the first negotiation. There had been a second negotiation already which also failed.

If he doesn't want to be labled a sterois cheat then he needs to stop acting like one.

If Floyd doesn't want to be labeled a chicken then he needs to stop acting like one.

[Memphis]

Your analogy doesn't work in this instance, not one little bit.... however my one on murderers going to trial does.

It doesnt really does it?

The day the CPS takes someone to trial for murder based on the wishes/curiosity of one man and internet gossip is the day your analogy holds water.

[Hornfinger]

Your analogy doesn't work in this instance, not one little bit.... however my one on murderers going to trial does.

It doesnt really does it?

The day the CPS takes someone to trial for murder based on the wishes/curiosity of one man and internet gossip is the day your analogy holds water.

You phone up the police now and report your next door neighbour for a crime of your choice. I guarentee the police will be round their to do some questioning at some point.

Get the whole street to report it and I'm fairly sure the police will be round even quicker.

If your neighbour is innocent he won't have any problem with questioning/clearing his name.

If he skips town however.... well by the reasoning of all on here he must be innocent.

It's not the accusations/internet gossip etc... it's the fact that he refused to go into a fight where olympic style random blood testing would be used into the build up.

No matter what anyone says, the arguement still starts and ends at the same place. Manny has been offered a test on numerous occasions and has done everything he can to avoid it.

It doesn't matter how many fanboy excuses you throw at it, that is where the arguement starts and ends. You can't change that bulletproof fact so don't bother trying.

[fan johnny]

Your analogy doesn't work in this instance, not one little bit.... however my one on murderers going to trial does.

It doesnt really does it?

The day the CPS takes someone to trial for murder based on the wishes/curiosity of one man and internet gossip is the day your analogy holds water.

You phone up the police now and report your next door neighbour for a crime of your choice. I guarentee the police will be round their to do some questioning at some point.

Get the whole street to report it and I'm fairly sure the police will be round even quicker.

If your neighbour is innocent he won't have any problem with questioning/clearing his name.

If he skips town however.... well by the reasoning of all on here he must be innocent.

It's not the accusations/internet gossip etc... it's the fact that he refused to go into a fight where olympic style random blood testing would be used into the build up.

No matter what anyone says, the arguement still starts and ends at the same place. Manny has been offered a test on numerous occasions and has done everything he can to avoid it.

It doesn't matter how many fanboy excuses you throw at it, that is where the arguement starts and ends. You can't change that bulletproof fact so don't bother trying.

Hey STUPID! and I mean really STUPID!

Ever hear of someone falsely accused of sexual harassment in the workplace getting fired! from a job like high school guidance counselor.

If your 45 year neighbor man (widower) with two daughters one young and another a teenager and was accused of being a pedophile. He is surrounded by young families. Social services comes into the house, finds pot in the house pot (From his oldest daughter) but uses it as a reason to put the kids into foster care because of the accusation! Do you think he is also going to be forced to move?

Those are obvious examples that even you should be able to comprehend. False accusations can be very damaging to a reputation way beyond point recovery.

The crap YOU are spilling is a direct result of an accusation. Don't be a moron that is incapable of learning as well, everyone has a brain fart now an then.

[Hornfinger]

Your analogy doesn't work in this instance, not one little bit.... however my one on murderers going to trial does.

It doesnt really does it?

The day the CPS takes someone to trial for murder based on the wishes/curiosity of one man and internet gossip is the day your analogy holds water.

You phone up the police now and report your next door neighbour for a crime of your choice. I guarentee the police will be round their to do some questioning at some point.

Get the whole street to report it and I'm fairly sure the police will be round even quicker.

If your neighbour is innocent he won't have any problem with questioning/clearing his name.

If he skips town however.... well by the reasoning of all on here he must be innocent.

It's not the accusations/internet gossip etc... it's the fact that he refused to go into a fight where olympic style random blood testing would be used into the build up.

No matter what anyone says, the arguement still starts and ends at the same place. Manny has been offered a test on numerous occasions and has done everything he can to avoid it.

It doesn't matter how many fanboy excuses you throw at it, that is where the arguement starts and ends. You can't change that bulletproof fact so don't bother trying.

Hey STUPID! and I mean really STUPID!

Ever hear of someone falsely accused of sexual harassment in the workplace getting fired! from a job like high school guidance counselor.

If your 45 year neighbor man (widower) with two daughters one young and another a teenager and was accused of being a pedophile. He is surrounded by young families. Social services comes into the house, finds pot in the house pot (From his oldest daughter) but uses it as a reason to put the kids into foster care because of the accusation! Do you think he is also going to be forced to move?

Those are obvious examples that even you should be able to comprehend. False accusations can be very damaging to a reputation way beyond point recovery.

The crap YOU are spilling is a direct result of an accusation. Don't be a moron that is incapable of learning as well, everyone has a brain fart now an then.

Don't get upset, just remember....

No matter what anyone says, the arguement still starts and ends at the same place. Manny has been offered a test on numerous occasions and has done everything he can to avoid it.

It doesn't matter how many fanboy excuses you throw at it, that is where the arguement starts and ends. You can't change that bulletproof fact so don't bother trying.

[brocktonblockbust]

Manny has been offered a test on numerous occasions and has done everything he can to avoid it. 

uhhh, offered by WHOM by what governing body

[Hornfinger]

Manny has been offered a test on numerous occasions and has done everything he can to avoid it. 

uhhh, offered by WHOM by what governing body

If he'd fought floyd he could have been tested by USADA just like shane was. He could of aasked for and done a random test like floyd and shane did on the lead up to ANY of his fights. It would have silenced Floyd and everyone else.

He chose not to.

[marbleheadmaui]

Your analogy doesn't work in this instance, not one little bit.... however my one on murderers going to trial does.

It doesnt really does it?

The day the CPS takes someone to trial for murder based on the wishes/curiosity of one man and internet gossip is the day your analogy holds water.

You phone up the police now and report your next door neighbour for a crime of your choice. I guarentee the police will be round their to do some questioning at some point.

Get the whole street to report it and I'm fairly sure the police will be round even quicker.

If your neighbour is innocent he won't have any problem with questioning/clearing his name.

If he skips town however.... well by the reasoning of all on here he must be innocent.

It's not the accusations/internet gossip etc... it's the fact that he refused to go into a fight where olympic style random blood testing would be used into the build up.

No matter what anyone says, the arguement still starts and ends at the same place. Manny has been offered a test on numerous occasions and has done everything he can to avoid it.

It doesn't matter how many fanboy excuses you throw at it, that is where the arguement starts and ends. You can't change that bulletproof fact so don't bother trying.

Hey STUPID! and I mean really STUPID!

Ever hear of someone falsely accused of sexual harassment in the workplace getting fired! from a job like high school guidance counselor.

If your 45 year neighbor man (widower) with two daughters one young and another a teenager and was accused of being a pedophile. He is surrounded by young families. Social services comes into the house, finds pot in the house pot (From his oldest daughter) but uses it as a reason to put the kids into foster care because of the accusation! Do you think he is also going to be forced to move?

Those are obvious examples that even you should be able to comprehend. False accusations can be very damaging to a reputation way beyond point recovery.

The crap YOU are spilling is a direct result of an accusation. Don't be a moron that is incapable of learning as well, everyone has a brain fart now an then.

The International Association of the Stupid called and demand a retraction for the insult of equating stupidity and Hornfinger.

[Hornfinger]

There was no stipulation to 18 days before. Random means just that, it could be 1 day before it could be 20 days before. Neither shane or floyd knew the last test would be 18 days out.

Shane had admitted to using drugs. So why didn't Floyd insist that he has a drug test up until the day of the fight. If 18 days before the fight is good enough for Floyd, then 14 days is even better. But that 14 days cut-off isn't even the issue in the second negotiation, Floyd just decided to go on vacation.

what you have just written has NO baring what so ever on the question mark over manny's head.

What question mark?

Manny tried to stipulate no testing 14 days prior. Sorry son, that's not how it works and that is the behaviour of someone with something to hide. Random means random full stop.

You question Manny's stipulation and yet you don't question Floyd acting as the boxing commissioner and trying to impose his own rules.

Manny's name has been soiled. He has been accused. If there is no question mark over his head then why do these threads keep popping up and why is it still talked about in the press?

Just because someone is accused, it doesn't mean that their name get soiled. We all get accussed of something all the time. This thread is not even about Manny, it's about Floyd's demand with regards to the drug test. If this issue is still brought up in the press, it's not about Manny's allege refusal because he had addressed that in the second negotiation. Not unless you have access to those RECENT press that says otherwise, maybe you would care enough to share it with us.

The arguement starts and finnishes with Manny Pacquiao was offered a test and refused and then came up with rediculous excuses and even stipulations.

You are talking about what transpired in the first negotiation. There had been a second negotiation already which also failed.

If he doesn't want to be labled a sterois cheat then he needs to stop acting like one.

If Floyd doesn't want to be labeled a chicken then he needs to stop acting like one.

No matter what anyone says, the arguement still starts and ends at the same place. Manny has been offered a test on numerous occasions and has done everything he can to avoid it.

It doesn't matter how many fanboy excuses you throw at it, that is where the arguement starts and ends. You can't change that bulletproof fact so don't bother trying.