Nonito Donaire vs Jorge Arce

[UKPH]

Yup Gary Shaw saved Vic ass i remember one time hes asking $2M if Donaire want a rematch although Vic moved up was 115 undisputed.champ that time, Shaw knows it.. he knows Vic was seen beaten every round of that fight why u give him a rematch?

[THE THIRD MAN]

Yup Gary Shaw saved Vic ass i remember one time hes asking $2M if Donaire want a rematch although Vic moved up was 115 undisputed.champ that time, Shaw knows it.. he knows Vic was seen beaten every round of that fight why u give him a rematch?

I must have been somewhere else that night, i agreed with the two judges who had it 38-38 at the time of the KO, (Vic definately won round 4) Vic is at the age (35) where he could fight Mares, Agbeko or Donaire again and it won't matter squat if he loses, he will get big money for doing it and the fans want it. Shaw has his nose out of joint with Donaire, but if Donaire wants to make it big at Bantam he must fight these guys to do it. Arce will only be a stepping stone, Vic got caught with a great punch by Donaire, his style is always going to give a good puncher a chance.Vic has positioned himself into one last big money fight and whoever that might be against will be a win for the fans. Vic turns 36 next January and that is old for the little fellas. Arce is like an itch you can't scratch, he will always be a nuisance value and cause the odd upset. He is a warrior and deserves full credit for his win against Vazquez.

[UKPH]

Yup Gary Shaw saved Vic ass i remember one time hes asking $2M if Donaire want a rematch although Vic moved up was 115 undisputed.champ that time, Shaw knows it.. he knows Vic was seen beaten every round of that fight why u give him a rematch?

I must have been somewhere else that night, i agreed with the two judges who had it 38-38 at the time of the KO, (Vic definately won round 4) Vic is at the age (35) where he could fight Mares, Agbeko or Donaire again and it won't matter squat if he loses, he will get big money for doing it and the fans want it. Shaw has his nose out of joint with Donaire, but if Donaire wants to make it big at Bantam he must fight these guys to do it. Arce will only be a stepping stone, Vic got caught with a great punch by Donaire, his style is always going to give a good puncher a chance.Vic has positioned himself into one last big money fight and whoever that might be against will be a win for the fans. Vic turns 36 next January and that is old for the little fellas. Arce is like an itch you can't scratch, he will always be a nuisance value and cause the odd upset. He is a warrior and deserves full credit for his win against Vazquez.

Sir i will not take away from a fighter like Darchinyan, he beaten like Arce and Mijares, but what i see on that fight, Nonito controlled most of the time in every rounds, if youd see of particular best punch that Vic that he had, Nonito just shake it up and controlling the fight until he was caught with great punch.

I cant blame Vic for not taken granted a rematch for Nonito after that loss, its not Vics fault, it could be in his promoter for what he sees on that particular fight, Vic's style isnt suitable for Nonito unless youd see differently from what i see from that fight, and Shaw knows it, he did a pretty good job in Vic's career.

[THE THIRD MAN]

Yup Gary Shaw saved Vic ass i remember one time hes asking $2M if Donaire want a rematch although Vic moved up was 115 undisputed.champ that time, Shaw knows it.. he knows Vic was seen beaten every round of that fight why u give him a rematch?

I must have been somewhere else that night, i agreed with the two judges who had it 38-38 at the time of the KO, (Vic definately won round 4) Vic is at the age (35) where he could fight Mares, Agbeko or Donaire again and it won't matter squat if he loses, he will get big money for doing it and the fans want it. Shaw has his nose out of joint with Donaire, but if Donaire wants to make it big at Bantam he must fight these guys to do it. Arce will only be a stepping stone, Vic got caught with a great punch by Donaire, his style is always going to give a good puncher a chance.Vic has positioned himself into one last big money fight and whoever that might be against will be a win for the fans. Vic turns 36 next January and that is old for the little fellas. Arce is like an itch you can't scratch, he will always be a nuisance value and cause the odd upset. He is a warrior and deserves full credit for his win against Vazquez.

Sir i will not take away from a fighter like Darchinyan, he beaten like Arce and Mijares, but what i see on that fight, Nonito controlled most of the time in every rounds, if youd see of particular best punch that Vic that he had, Nonito just shake it up and controlling the fight until he was caught with great punch.

I cant blame Vic for not taken granted a rematch for Nonito after that loss, its not Vics fault, it could be in his promoter for what he sees on that particular fight, Vic's style isnt suitable for Nonito unless youd see differently from what i see from that fight, and Shaw knows it, he did a pretty good job in Vic's career.

I don't blame Vic for not taking the rematch either, he has fought Agbeko, Mares and Yohnny Perez since and will definately fight Mares or Agbeko again. What Donaire needs to do after his great win against Montiel is throw down the gauntlet to these guys and see what happens. Just watched round 4 again and Donaire had problems with Vic with 20 seconds to go in that round. No doubt Donaire is a class act, he did it again with Montiel, not sure he would KO Vic again or Mares or Agbeko. We will have to wait and see.

[UKPH]

I don't blame Vic for not taking the rematch either, he has fought Agbeko, Mares and Yohnny Perez since and will definately fight Mares or Agbeko again. What Donaire needs to do after his great win against Montiel is throw down the gauntlet to these guys and see what happens. Just watched round 4 again and Donaire had problems with Vic with 20 seconds to go in that round. No doubt Donaire is a class act, he did it again with Montiel, not sure he would KO Vic again or Mares or Agbeko. We will have to wait and see.

It could be...im intrigue on your take between Vic-Nonito IF will happens at 118, cuz i rate Montiel higher as champion vs. Moreno and Hasegawa nor Agbeko. I rate Moreno up than Agbeko also rate Hasegawa higher than Agbeko on that time Vic meets Agbeko. Im not looking for just K.O just wins either by decision.

[THE THIRD MAN]

I don't blame Vic for not taking the rematch either, he has fought Agbeko, Mares and Yohnny Perez since and will definately fight Mares or Agbeko again. What Donaire needs to do after his great win against Montiel is throw down the gauntlet to these guys and see what happens. Just watched round 4 again and Donaire had problems with Vic with 20 seconds to go in that round. No doubt Donaire is a class act, he did it again with Montiel, not sure he would KO Vic again or Mares or Agbeko. We will have to wait and see.

It could be...im intrigue on your take between Vic-Nonito IF will happens at 118, cuz i rate Montiel higher as champion vs. Moreno and Hasegawa nor Agbeko. I rate Moreno up than Agbeko also rate Hasegawa higher than Agbeko on that time Vic meets Agbeko. Im not looking for just K.O just wins either by decision.

Whatever happens, 118lb is going to be an interesting division for the next 12 months.

[UKPH]

I don't blame Vic for not taking the rematch either, he has fought Agbeko, Mares and Yohnny Perez since and will definately fight Mares or Agbeko again. What Donaire needs to do after his great win against Montiel is throw down the gauntlet to these guys and see what happens. Just watched round 4 again and Donaire had problems with Vic with 20 seconds to go in that round. No doubt Donaire is a class act, he did it again with Montiel, not sure he would KO Vic again or Mares or Agbeko. We will have to wait and see.

It could be...im intrigue on your take between Vic-Nonito IF will happens at 118, cuz i rate Montiel higher as champion vs. Moreno and Hasegawa nor Agbeko. I rate Moreno up than Agbeko also rate Hasegawa higher than Agbeko on that time Vic meets Agbeko. Im not looking for just K.O just wins either by decision.

Whatever happens, 118lb is going to be an interesting division for the next 12 months.

Fair words, yeah since Vics win over Perez interesting hes back on the mix.

[UKPH]

I don't blame Vic for not taking the rematch either, he has fought Agbeko, Mares and Yohnny Perez since and will definately fight Mares or Agbeko again. What Donaire needs to do after his great win against Montiel is throw down the gauntlet to these guys and see what happens. Just watched round 4 again and Donaire had problems with Vic with 20 seconds to go in that round. No doubt Donaire is a class act, he did it again with Montiel, not sure he would KO Vic again or Mares or Agbeko. We will have to wait and see.

It could be...im intrigue on your take between Vic-Nonito IF will happens at 118, cuz i rate Montiel higher as champion vs. Moreno and Hasegawa nor Agbeko. I rate Moreno up than Agbeko also rate Hasegawa higher than Agbeko on that time Vic meets Agbeko. Im not looking for just K.O just wins either by decision.

Whatever happens, 118lb is going to be an interesting division for the next 12 months.

Fair words, yeah since Vics win over Perez interesting hes back in the mix.