1973 George Foreman smokes EVERYBODY!!!!!!!!

[BIG H]

1974 George couldn't 'Smoke everybody' so not sure what happened in the 12 months since 1973

[marbleheadmaui]

Agree that Foreman was a monster. But Ali figured him out. The question is are there other iron-willed and iron jawed and/or creative guys in the ring who could have handled him?

1902ish Jim Jeffries was as big and powerful as Foreman and was accustomed to taking blows from five ounce gloves without a mouthpiece and going 20 rounds. Woulda been a war and the question is would Foreman's stamina have held up.

How about a guy like 1960ish Liston? That jab would have been a threat wouldn't it?

I guess I don't really think slick, smooth guys like Tunney or Loughran or Walcott make it 15 with George.

[Master]

George was raw and as Ali showed he could be beaten. Lennox, Holmes and Tyson would do him.

[marbleheadmaui]

George was raw and as Ali showed he could be beaten. Lennox, Holmes and Tyson would do him.

Lennox and Tyson would have no shot. None, zero, zilch

OK, that's hyperbole.

[Master]

George was raw and as Ali showed he could be beaten. Lennox, Holmes and Tyson would do him.

Lennox and Tyson would have no shot. None, zero, zilch

OK, that's hyperbole.

Lennox never lost to anyone who he thought as a threat, so he would not take George lightly. He would concentrate and use his jab to break down the raw and inexperienced Foreman. Just like Lennox did to Rudduck, Golota and Grant.

Tyson would come at George in angles, landing with speed and movement. George will take the punches but would wilt under the speed and unseen punches.

[marbleheadmaui]

George was raw and as Ali showed he could be beaten. Lennox, Holmes and Tyson would do him.

Lennox and Tyson would have no shot. None, zero, zilch

OK, that's hyperbole.

Lennox never lost to anyone who he thought as a threat, so he would not take George lightly. He would concentrate and use his jab to break down the raw and inexperienced Foreman. Just like Lennox did to Rudduck, Golota and Grant.

Tyson would come at George in angles, landing with speed and movement. George will take the punches but would wilt under the speed and unseen punches.

I seriously do not understand the notion that Lennox is this machine when motivated. First, as you note, he wasn't always so it is an irrelevant metric and second when mediocrities can knock him out and an older Evander can give him everything he wants? Isn't the right bet Foreman can too?

Tyson, as always has three rounds to win. Despite my hyyperbole is isn't impossible he does so, BUT since George was never finished in three and only rarely even hurt that early and Tyson always faded after three isn't the right bet that George survives and lays down a savage beating?

[Master]

George was raw and as Ali showed he could be beaten. Lennox, Holmes and Tyson would do him.

Lennox and Tyson would have no shot. None, zero, zilch

OK, that's hyperbole.

Lennox never lost to anyone who he thought as a threat, so he would not take George lightly. He would concentrate and use his jab to break down the raw and inexperienced Foreman. Just like Lennox did to Rudduck, Golota and Grant.

Tyson would come at George in angles, landing with speed and movement. George will take the punches but would wilt under the speed and unseen punches.

I seriously do not understand the notion that Lennox is this machine when motivated. First, as you note, he wasn't always so it is an irrelevant metric and second when mediocrities can knock him out and an older Evander can give him everything he wants? Isn't the right bet Foreman can too?

Tyson, as always has three rounds to win. Despite my hyyperbole is isn't impossible he does so, BUT since George was never finished in three and only rarely even hurt that early and Tyson always faded after three isn't the right bet that George survives and lays down a savage beating?

Lennox may have struggled with Evander but that is a completely different fighter to the raw George who wanted to knock out everyone.

A prime Tyson had no problem going 12 or even 15 rounds if he had to as he systematically beat his opponents up until they were stopped.