1973 George Foreman smokes EVERYBODY!!!!!!!!

[marbleheadmaui]

George was raw and as Ali showed he could be beaten. Lennox, Holmes and Tyson would do him.

Lennox and Tyson would have no shot. None, zero, zilch

OK, that's hyperbole.

Lennox never lost to anyone who he thought as a threat, so he would not take George lightly. He would concentrate and use his jab to break down the raw and inexperienced Foreman. Just like Lennox did to Rudduck, Golota and Grant.

Tyson would come at George in angles, landing with speed and movement. George will take the punches but would wilt under the speed and unseen punches.

I seriously do not understand the notion that Lennox is this machine when motivated. First, as you note, he wasn't always so it is an irrelevant metric and second when mediocrities can knock him out and an older Evander can give him everything he wants? Isn't the right bet Foreman can too?

Tyson, as always has three rounds to win. Despite my hyyperbole is isn't impossible he does so, BUT since George was never finished in three and only rarely even hurt that early and Tyson always faded after three isn't the right bet that George survives and lays down a savage beating?

[Master]

George was raw and as Ali showed he could be beaten. Lennox, Holmes and Tyson would do him.

Lennox and Tyson would have no shot. None, zero, zilch

OK, that's hyperbole.

Lennox never lost to anyone who he thought as a threat, so he would not take George lightly. He would concentrate and use his jab to break down the raw and inexperienced Foreman. Just like Lennox did to Rudduck, Golota and Grant.

Tyson would come at George in angles, landing with speed and movement. George will take the punches but would wilt under the speed and unseen punches.

I seriously do not understand the notion that Lennox is this machine when motivated. First, as you note, he wasn't always so it is an irrelevant metric and second when mediocrities can knock him out and an older Evander can give him everything he wants? Isn't the right bet Foreman can too?

Tyson, as always has three rounds to win. Despite my hyyperbole is isn't impossible he does so, BUT since George was never finished in three and only rarely even hurt that early and Tyson always faded after three isn't the right bet that George survives and lays down a savage beating?

Lennox may have struggled with Evander but that is a completely different fighter to the raw George who wanted to knock out everyone.

A prime Tyson had no problem going 12 or even 15 rounds if he had to as he systematically beat his opponents up until they were stopped.

[marbleheadmaui]

George was raw and as Ali showed he could be beaten. Lennox, Holmes and Tyson would do him.

Lennox and Tyson would have no shot. None, zero, zilch

OK, that's hyperbole.

Lennox never lost to anyone who he thought as a threat, so he would not take George lightly. He would concentrate and use his jab to break down the raw and inexperienced Foreman. Just like Lennox did to Rudduck, Golota and Grant.

Tyson would come at George in angles, landing with speed and movement. George will take the punches but would wilt under the speed and unseen punches.

I seriously do not understand the notion that Lennox is this machine when motivated. First, as you note, he wasn't always so it is an irrelevant metric and second when mediocrities can knock him out and an older Evander can give him everything he wants? Isn't the right bet Foreman can too?

Tyson, as always has three rounds to win. Despite my hyyperbole is isn't impossible he does so, BUT since George was never finished in three and only rarely even hurt that early and Tyson always faded after three isn't the right bet that George survives and lays down a savage beating?

Lennox may have struggled with Evander but that is a completely different fighter to the raw George who wanted to knock out everyone.

A prime Tyson had no problem going 12 or even 15 rounds if he had to as he systematically beat his opponents up until they were stopped.

Except he never did.

[Master]

Tyson went the distance 4 times, winning them all.

[marbleheadmaui]

Tyson went the distance 4 times, winning them all.

That's not what you said. You said he could go 12-15 AND STOP THEM! I'm not sure the Bonecrusher or Ruddock or Tillis performances would be held us as any sort of paragons. I don't know what the other one was. The legendary Blood Green maybe? might have been Tyson (IIRC) NEVER stopped anyone after what? Seven rounds and i think he only did that twice. On the other hand, he got KO'd what? 3-4 times after round seven didn't he?

[Master]

Tyson went the distance 4 times, winning them all.

That's not what you said. You said he could go 12-15 AND STOP THEM! I'm not sure the Bonecrusher or Ruddock or Tillis performances would be held us as any sort of paragons. I don't know what the other one was. The legendary Blood Green maybe? might have been Tyson (IIRC) NEVER stopped anyone after what? Seven rounds and i think he only did that twice. On the other hand, he got KO'd what? 3-4 times after round seven didn't he?

And how many times did a prime George go the distance (the one before the retirement)

[marbleheadmaui]

Tyson went the distance 4 times, winning them all.

That's not what you said. You said he could go 12-15 AND STOP THEM! I'm not sure the Bonecrusher or Ruddock or Tillis performances would be held us as any sort of paragons. I don't know what the other one was. The legendary Blood Green maybe? might have been Tyson (IIRC) NEVER stopped anyone after what? Seven rounds and i think he only did that twice. On the other hand, he got KO'd what? 3-4 times after round seven didn't he?

And how many times did a prime George go the distance (the one before the retirement)

Geeze, good question, maybe just with Young? But that's not the issue. The issue is Foreman retained effectiveness past the third round in a way Tyson just didn't. Foreman stopped Ribalta late as an example.

[Boxer4life]

i actually think a prime mike tyson and a prime ali would take him