WTF is PBF demanding w/ those Blood Tests???

[fan johnny]

What people don't understand about Hornfinger and MafiaJoey's are the fact that they are both the biggest Pacquiao haters on the face of the earth. I made a rant about the whole Mayweather/Pacquiao hating and not one person could provide PROOF that Pacquiao was on PEDs. I'll use this analogy again:

Picture yourself back in school. You took an exam, passed it. Someone in your class claimed he saw you cheating and he's demanding the teacher or the administrators make you take an even more in depth test to prove you weren't actually cheating. Do you sit there and say, "I passed the test already, why do I have to retake it?" or "Sure, I'll take the test again cause someone said I cheated?"

Show me proof Pacquiao is on PEDs and you have another Pachater on my part. Not speculation, hypothesis, or situations, I just was PROOF.

A slight modification to the analogy would be appropriate. Rather than the accuser saying he actually saw you cheating, because he didn't see anything. What he says is there is no way you could have passed the test having that score without cheating. So you must have cheated. You should now have to retake the tests and they should be modified so they have completely different questions. Oh and just to be sure that you actually know the material there should be no multiple choice questions even though everyone else take the multiple choice test.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

What people don't understand about Hornfinger and MafiaJoey's are the fact that they are both the biggest Pacquiao haters on the face of the earth. I made a rant about the whole Mayweather/Pacquiao hating and not one person could provide PROOF that Pacquiao was on PEDs. I'll use this analogy again:

Picture yourself back in school. You took an exam, passed it. Someone in your class claimed he saw you cheating and he's demanding the teacher or the administrators make you take an even more in depth test to prove you weren't actually cheating. Do you sit there and say, "I passed the test already, why do I have to retake it?" or "Sure, I'll take the test again cause someone said I cheated?"

Show me proof Pacquiao is on PEDs and you have another Pachater on my part. Not speculation, hypothesis, or situations, I just was PROOF.

A slight modification to the analogy would be appropriate. Rather than the accuser saying he actually saw you cheating, because he didn't see anything. What he says is there is no way you could have passed the test having that score without cheating. So you must have cheated. You should now have to retake the tests and they should be modified so they have completely different questions. Oh and just to be sure that you actually know the material there should be no multiple choice questions even though everyone else take the multiple choice test.

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[Hornfinger]

Show me proof Pacquiao is on PEDs and you have another Pachater on my part. Not speculation, hypothesis, or situations, I just was PROOF.

Show me proof that he's NOT on roids. Show me a CLEAN random blood test.

I want proof he's not on roids.


Here's another thing.

Why don't pac fans want manny to take a test? Surely pacfans should want him to take a test, pass it and then rub it in the face of every floyd fan and doubter etc... To me I don't think pacfans are convinced. To me they seem scared he might fail the test.

But this is why i think pacfans are not boxing fans, they're just pacfrans. Any boxing fan would want to see stricter testing and more importantly a fair playing field in every fight. In my view pac fans don't want this cuz they dont want their boy to take a test.

If your not for testing, fair fights and an even playing field then you ain't a fan of boxing.

[InTheNeutralCorner]

Show me proof Pacquiao is on PEDs and you have another Pachater on my part. Not speculation, hypothesis, or situations, I just was PROOF.

Show me proof that he's NOT on roids. Show me a CLEAN random blood test.

I want proof he's not on roids.


Here's another thing.

Why don't pac fans want manny to take a test? Surely pacfans should want him to take a test, pass it and then rub it in the face of every floyd fan and doubter etc... To me I don't think pacfans are convinced. To me they seem scared he might fail the test.

But this is why i think pacfans are not boxing fans, they're just pacfrans. Any boxing fan would want to see stricter testing and more importantly a fair playing field in every fight. In my view pac fans don't want this cuz they dont want their boy to take a test.

If your not for testing, fair fights and an even playing field then you ain't a fan of boxing.

Manny has already been taking the test as required in every fight! But he finally compromised and agreed to Floyd's drug test demand with a cut-off of 14 days. If the cut-off day for the Mayweather-Mosley fight (with someone who is an admitted drug/PED user) is 18 days, then 14 days should be good enough.

So you're a boxing fan. Have you done anything to see stricter testing? Have you send letters to the boxing commissions or to the media with regards to this? Has Floyd done this after the collapse of the first negotiation with Manny? Did you raise an uproar when Floyd did not even the playing field by coming in over the weight limit in his fight with Marquez?

[Hornfinger]

Show me proof Pacquiao is on PEDs and you have another Pachater on my part. Not speculation, hypothesis, or situations, I just was PROOF.

Show me proof that he's NOT on roids. Show me a CLEAN random blood test.

I want proof he's not on roids.


Here's another thing.

Why don't pac fans want manny to take a test? Surely pacfans should want him to take a test, pass it and then rub it in the face of every floyd fan and doubter etc... To me I don't think pacfans are convinced. To me they seem scared he might fail the test.

But this is why i think pacfans are not boxing fans, they're just pacfrans. Any boxing fan would want to see stricter testing and more importantly a fair playing field in every fight. In my view pac fans don't want this cuz they dont want their boy to take a test.

If your not for testing, fair fights and an even playing field then you ain't a fan of boxing.

Manny has already been taking the test as required in every fight! But he finally compromised and agreed to Floyd's drug test demand with a cut-off of 14 days. If the cut-off day for the Mayweather-Mosley fight (with someone who is an admitted drug/PED user) is 18 days, then 14 days should be good enough.

So you're a boxing fan. Have you done anything to see stricter testing? Have you send letters to the boxing commissions or to the media with regards to this? Has Floyd done this after the collapse of the first negotiation with Manny? Did you raise an uproar when Floyd did not even the playing field by coming in over the weight limit in his fight with Marquez?

Required test isn't sufficiant, it's urine and no random. Thats a cop out answer.

14 day cut off isn't a random test.

Neither floyd or shane were told their last test was 18 days out for all they knew the
could've been tested again hence the word 'random'

And you finish off with more unrelated floyd vs manny crap to dodge the issue and not have to answer the point. You don't want him to take a test cuz you think he might fail. I'm flattered that you think letters and emails from me would carry enough weight to change the rules of drug testing in boxing.

Thank you good night.

[InTheNeutralCorner]

Manny has already been taking the test as required in every fight! But he finally compromised and agreed to Floyd's drug test demand with a cut-off of 14 days. If the cut-off day for the Mayweather-Mosley fight (with someone who is an admitted drug/PED user) is 18 days, then 14 days should be good enough.

So you're a boxing fan. Have you done anything to see stricter testing? Have you send letters to the boxing commissions or to the media with regards to this? Has Floyd done this after the collapse of the first negotiation with Manny? Did you raise an uproar when Floyd did not even the playing field by coming in over the weight limit in his fight with Marquez?

Required test isn't sufficiant, it's urine and no random. Thats a cop out answer.
Required test had been sufficient until Floyd came up with that BS. It still is sufficient in all fights.

14 day cut off isn't a random test.
But the 14 day cut off ws good enough for Floyd in the first negotiation. Now you also want to act as the boxing commissioner and insist that's not good enough. And you are not even the one fighting so what's your problem.

Neither floyd or shane were told their last test was 18 days out for all they knew the
could've been tested again hence the word 'random'
So why were you not in an uproar that they were only tested until 18 days before the fight. Weren't you concerned that Shane might have cheated AGAIN in those 17 days leading up to the fight?

And you finish off with more unrelated floyd vs manny crap to dodge the issue and not have to answer the point. You don't want him to take a test cuz you think he might fail. I'm flattered that you think letters and emails from me would carry enough weight to change the rules of drug testing in boxing.
Either you have not read my previous post or just don't understand them. I criticized Manny for not giving in to Floyd's drug test demand in the first negotiation. I wanted him to just give in for the fight to happen but did not place the entire blame on him. Now that Manny already agreed to the demand, what more can you ask for?
I didn't say letters and e-mails from you carry enough weight to change the rules. You implied that, as a boxing fan, you would want stricter testing. Is there any PROOF that you at least advocated for this even before the Pacquiao-Mayweather fiasco? Or all you did about this is criticize Manny?

Thank you good night.
Thank you, too, but it's afternoon to me..

You haven't answered any of my questions in the last paragraph.

[Hornfinger]

Manny has already been taking the test as required in every fight! But he finally compromised and agreed to Floyd's drug test demand with a cut-off of 14 days. If the cut-off day for the Mayweather-Mosley fight (with someone who is an admitted drug/PED user) is 18 days, then 14 days should be good enough.

So you're a boxing fan. Have you done anything to see stricter testing? Have you send letters to the boxing commissions or to the media with regards to this? Has Floyd done this after the collapse of the first negotiation with Manny? Did you raise an uproar when Floyd did not even the playing field by coming in over the weight limit in his fight with Marquez?

Required test isn't sufficiant, it's urine and no random. Thats a cop out answer.
Required test had been sufficient until Floyd came up with that BS. It still is sufficient in all fights.

14 day cut off isn't a random test.
But the 14 day cut off ws good enough for Floyd in the first negotiation. Now you also want to act as the boxing commissioner and insist that's not good enough. And you are not even the one fighting so what's your problem.

Neither floyd or shane were told their last test was 18 days out for all they knew the
could've been tested again hence the word 'random'
So why were you not in an uproar that they were only tested until 18 days before the fight. Weren't you concerned that Shane might have cheated AGAIN in those 17 days leading up to the fight?

And you finish off with more unrelated floyd vs manny crap to dodge the issue and not have to answer the point. You don't want him to take a test cuz you think he might fail. I'm flattered that you think letters and emails from me would carry enough weight to change the rules of drug testing in boxing.
Either you have not read my previous post or just don't understand them. I criticized Manny for not giving in to Floyd's drug test demand in the first negotiation. I wanted him to just give in for the fight to happen but did not place the entire blame on him. Now that Manny already agreed to the demand, what more can you ask for?
I didn't say letters and e-mails from you carry enough weight to change the rules. You implied that, as a boxing fan, you would want stricter testing. Is there any PROOF that you at least advocated for this even before the Pacquiao-Mayweather fiasco? Or all you did about this is criticize Manny?

Thank you good night.
Thank you, too, but it's afternoon to me..

You haven't answered any of my questions in the last paragraph.

Required test is a urine test, and won't detect modern steroids. FACT. So it's not sufficiant. FACT

Might have been good enough for Floyd but it's not good enough for me because then it's not Random. Fact

I wasn't in up roar beacuse (to repeat myself again for the millionth time, honestly are you really that dumb?) The fighters didn't know their last test was 18 days out. ITS A RANDOM TEST! Shane would've been taking amassive risk, I doubt he would've taken the risk, same for floyd.

Nope i'm not being drawn into unrelated crap. Show me a clean blood test for manny and I'll believe he's clean.

Wow you've been Owned twice in the same day by the same person on the same subject. Sucks to be you...

[fan johnny]

Show me proof Pacquiao is on PEDs and you have another Pachater on my part. Not speculation, hypothesis, or situations, I just was PROOF.

Show me proof that he's NOT on roids. Show me a CLEAN random blood test.

I want proof he's not on roids.


Here's another thing.

Why don't pac fans want manny to take a test? Surely pacfans should want him to take a test, pass it and then rub it in the face of every floyd fan and doubter etc... To me I don't think pacfans are convinced. To me they seem scared he might fail the test.

But this is why i think pacfans are not boxing fans, they're just pacfrans. Any boxing fan would want to see stricter testing and more importantly a fair playing field in every fight. In my view pac fans don't want this cuz they dont want their boy to take a test.

If your not for testing, fair fights and an even playing field then you ain't a fan of boxing.

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[Hornfinger]

Show me proof Pacquiao is on PEDs and you have another Pachater on my part. Not speculation, hypothesis, or situations, I just was PROOF.

Show me proof that he's NOT on roids. Show me a CLEAN random blood test.

I want proof he's not on roids.


Here's another thing.

Why don't pac fans want manny to take a test? Surely pacfans should want him to take a test, pass it and then rub it in the face of every floyd fan and doubter etc... To me I don't think pacfans are convinced. To me they seem scared he might fail the test.

But this is why i think pacfans are not boxing fans, they're just pacfrans. Any boxing fan would want to see stricter testing and more importantly a fair playing field in every fight. In my view pac fans don't want this cuz they dont want their boy to take a test.

If your not for testing, fair fights and an even playing field then you ain't a fan of boxing.

kid-w-middle-finger.jpg

When you can't argue a point resort to the tactics and mentallity of a 4 year old.

[C-Lo]

Where's the rebuttal for my post Horn? Everytime I've posted that, no one has said anything back regardless of the thread.

[InTheNeutralCorner]

Where's the rebuttal for my post Horn? Everytime I've posted that, no one has said anything back regardless of the thread.

Yes, Horn, where is it? Where is the proof? Show me the proof and I'll be the number 1 Pachater in this forum. I'll do what mafiajoey intents to do with Floyd, shit on Pac's driveway and everyone can video it for youtube.

Where is the proof!!!

[brocktonblockbust]

yeah Horn, bring it BIOTCH

[Hornfinger]

Where's the rebuttal for my post Horn? Everytime I've posted that, no one has said anything back regardless of the thread.

Yes, Horn, where is it? Where is the proof? Show me the proof and I'll be the number 1 Pachater in this forum. I'll do what mafiajoey intents to do with Floyd, shit on Pac's driveway and everyone can video it for youtube.

Where is the proof!!!

Where's the proof he's clean. See the post reply I've just done.

[fan johnny]

Show me proof Pacquiao is on PEDs and you have another Pachater on my part. Not speculation, hypothesis, or situations, I just was PROOF.

Show me proof that he's NOT on roids. Show me a CLEAN random blood test.

I want proof he's not on roids.


Here's another thing.

Why don't pac fans want manny to take a test? Surely pacfans should want him to take a test, pass it and then rub it in the face of every floyd fan and doubter etc... To me I don't think pacfans are convinced. To me they seem scared he might fail the test.

But this is why i think pacfans are not boxing fans, they're just pacfrans. Any boxing fan would want to see stricter testing and more importantly a fair playing field in every fight. In my view pac fans don't want this cuz they dont want their boy to take a test.

If your not for testing, fair fights and an even playing field then you ain't a fan of boxing.

kid-w-middle-finger.jpg

When you can't argue a point resort to the tactics and mentallity of a 4 year old.

Absolutely not! I was being polite at your level! You took someones post and attached my name to it! For that, you're an ass!

I and others have given you plenty of rational statements in this thread to which your reply is only childish.

I challenge you to provide "Any Athlete's blood test results" as proof that they were clean from drug usage. Again that is "Any Athlete.

[Hornfinger]

Show me proof Pacquiao is on PEDs and you have another Pachater on my part. Not speculation, hypothesis, or situations, I just was PROOF.

Show me proof that he's NOT on roids. Show me a CLEAN random blood test.

I want proof he's not on roids.


Here's another thing.

Why don't pac fans want manny to take a test? Surely pacfans should want him to take a test, pass it and then rub it in the face of every floyd fan and doubter etc... To me I don't think pacfans are convinced. To me they seem scared he might fail the test.

But this is why i think pacfans are not boxing fans, they're just pacfrans. Any boxing fan would want to see stricter testing and more importantly a fair playing field in every fight. In my view pac fans don't want this cuz they dont want their boy to take a test.

If your not for testing, fair fights and an even playing field then you ain't a fan of boxing.

kid-w-middle-finger.jpg

When you can't argue a point resort to the tactics and mentallity of a 4 year old.

Absolutely not! I was being polite at your level! You took someones post and attached my name to it! For that, you're an ass!

I and others have given you plenty of rational statements in this thread to which your reply is only childish.

I challenge you to provide "Any Athlete's blood test results" as proof that they were clean from drug usage. Again that is "Any Athlete.

Gonna have to repeat myself AGAIN for all the moronic.


I'LL BELIEVE AN ATHLETE (ANY ATHLETE) IS CLEAN WHEN YOU SHOW ME THAT THEY HAVE PASSED A RANDOM BLOOD TEST. NOT BEFORE.

I DON'T BELIEVE ANY ATHLETE THAT HASN'T PASSED ONE IS CLEAN.

URINE TESTING IS COMPLETELY SUB STANDARD AND OUT OF DATE AND WILL DETECT FUCK ALL!


I CAN'T MAKE IT CLEARER THAN THAT.