Kirkland vs Mayorga

[Majesty]

People were saying after Kirkland's last fight that not being with Ann Wolfe really hurt him because she pushed him so far beyond his limitations he could take it into the fight which added to that determination. I think it truly is a case of the trainer making the fighter. I'm not sure Mayorga is gonna knock him out this time, depends how he shows up in the ring, watching the fighter when he was trained by Wolfe and the one now is like night and day, it was like Tyson after he got rid of Rooney, so if he gets that determination and ferociousness back then i'd pick Kirkland by late stoppage.

[ElTerribleMorales]

People were saying after Kirkland's last fight that not being with Ann Wolfe really hurt him because she pushed him so far beyond his limitations he could take it into the fight which added to that determination. I think it truly is a case of the trainer making the fighter. I'm not sure Mayorga is gonna knock him out this time, depends how he shows up in the ring, watching the fighter when he was trained by Wolfe and the one now is like night and day, it was like Tyson after he got rid of Rooney, so if he gets that determination and ferociousness back then i'd pick Kirkland by late stoppage.

problem with Kirkland is he's always thought that his punches are faster than they are, always has his hands low and is always wide open to the right hand, fuck he's open to any straight punches, even if he gets by Mayorga IMO any of the big names from 154 to 168 kick his ass easily,

154
Cotto
Angulo
Dzinziruk
Cintron
Williams

160
Martinez
Pirog
Sturm

168
Bute
Ward
Froch
Abraham
Kessler


all the guys mentioned put a clinic on the dude and i'm sure i missed a few

[Majesty]

People were saying after Kirkland's last fight that not being with Ann Wolfe really hurt him because she pushed him so far beyond his limitations he could take it into the fight which added to that determination. I think it truly is a case of the trainer making the fighter. I'm not sure Mayorga is gonna knock him out this time, depends how he shows up in the ring, watching the fighter when he was trained by Wolfe and the one now is like night and day, it was like Tyson after he got rid of Rooney, so if he gets that determination and ferociousness back then i'd pick Kirkland by late stoppage.

problem with Kirkland is he's always thought that his punches are faster than they are, always has his hands low and is always wide open to the right hand, fuck he's open to any straight punches, even if he gets by Mayorga IMO any of the big names from 154 to 168 kick his ass easily,

154
Cotto
Angulo
Dzinziruk
Cintron
Williams

160
Martinez
Pirog
Sturm

168
Bute
Ward
Froch
Abraham
Kessler


all the guys mentioned put a clinic on the dude and i'm sure i missed a few

Angulo and Cintron I'm not so sure about putting on a clinic, Williams is good, but he has shown that he likes to slug and leave himself open just as much as the other.

Actually Kirkland against any of them at 154 (depending how he looks his next fight) would be a good fight. The fact is he's walked through harder punches than the last guy he fought, it was that determination when trained well that carried him through fights like that along with his trainer.

Cotto I would agree with. Never watched much of Dzinziruk unless he was that guy on Shobox that jabbed all the time and i stopped watching after the 4th round.

[Spicoli]

People were saying after Kirkland's last fight that not being with Ann Wolfe really hurt him because she pushed him so far beyond his limitations he could take it into the fight which added to that determination. I think it truly is a case of the trainer making the fighter. I'm not sure Mayorga is gonna knock him out this time, depends how he shows up in the ring, watching the fighter when he was trained by Wolfe and the one now is like night and day, it was like Tyson after he got rid of Rooney, so if he gets that determination and ferociousness back then i'd pick Kirkland by late stoppage.

Yeh I think Wolfe does nothing but help him. But huge difference with Tyson is that for all intents and purposes he was a 'complete' package when he jumped ship from Rooney, skills were at peak I believe. Had that to lead way even when mentality waned then. Kirkland is really quite green and his legs look short circuited when caught clean.

[Pavlik]

i'll go with kirkland by ko. ishida caught him with a straight shot, mayos loopimg shots wont work here. kirkland is also the bigger man.

[Hulk]

i'll go with kirkland by ko. ishida caught him with a straight shot, mayos loopimg shots wont work here. kirkland is also the bigger man.

That is a good point, I was thinking about that.

But, did you see Kirklands fight right before he lost to Ishida ? He fought a Colombian journeyman who fought A LOT like Mayorga, and that drunken bastard ROCKED Kirkland with a looping shot.

Mayorga is too much too soon after a prospect coming off a first loss, and a 1st round TKO loss at that.

Gotta admire Kirkland if he takes this fight. Shows a lot of balls.