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People were saying after Kirkland's last fight that not being with Ann Wolfe really hurt him because she pushed him so far beyond his limitations he could take it into the fight which added to that determination. I think it truly is a case of the trainer making the fighter. I'm not sure Mayorga is gonna knock him out this time, depends how he shows up in the ring, watching the fighter when he was trained by Wolfe and the one now is like night and day, it was like Tyson after he got rid of Rooney, so if he gets that determination and ferociousness back then i'd pick Kirkland by late stoppage.
problem with Kirkland is he's always thought that his punches are faster than they are, always has his hands low and is always wide open to the right hand, fuck he's open to any straight punches, even if he gets by Mayorga IMO any of the big names from 154 to 168 kick his ass easily,

154
Cotto
Angulo
Dzinziruk
Cintron
Williams

160
Martinez
Pirog
Sturm

168
Bute
Ward
Froch
Abraham
Kessler


all the guys mentioned put a clinic on the dude and i'm sure i missed a few
Angulo and Cintron I'm not so sure about putting on a clinic, Williams is good, but he has shown that he likes to slug and leave himself open just as much as the other.

Actually Kirkland against any of them at 154 (depending how he looks his next fight) would be a good fight. The fact is he's walked through harder punches than the last guy he fought, it was that determination when trained well that carried him through fights like that along with his trainer.

Cotto I would agree with. Never watched much of Dzinziruk unless he was that guy on Shobox that jabbed all the time and i stopped watching after the 4th round.