WTF is PBF demanding w/ those Blood Tests???

[Beanflicker]

Well if you want to get on the subject of "who is so-and-so to demand special rules", people forget that Manny demanded that Floyd be fined 10 MILLION DOLLARS for every pound he came in overweight. Show me the AC rule that says "a fighter shall be fined 10 MILLION for every pound he comes in overweight".

People also forget that Manny demanded Cotto defend his welterweight belt at a CATCHWEIGHT. When have you ever seen a 147lb title being contested at a weight other than 147lbs?

So why does Manny get a free pass for this crap, while Floyd is labelled a ducker for demanding stricter drug testing? It's a legitimite request because drug testing in boxing (and a lot of pro sports in general) is an absolute joke.

[Hornfinger]

Well if you want to get on the subject of "who is so-and-so to demand special rules", people forget that Manny demanded that Floyd be fined 10 MILLION DOLLARS for every pound he came in overweight. Show me the AC rule that says "a fighter shall be fined 10 MILLION for every pound he comes in overweight".

People also forget that Manny demanded Cotto defend his welterweight belt at a CATCHWEIGHT. When have you ever seen a 147lb title being contested at a weight other than 147lbs?

So why does Manny get a free pass for this crap, while Floyd is labelled a ducker for demanding stricter drug testing? It's a legitimite request because drug testing in boxing (and a lot of pro sports in general) is an absolute joke.

Not to mention all the unofficial weight classes manny chooses to fight at.....

[marbleheadmaui]

Well if you want to get on the subject of "who is so-and-so to demand special rules", people forget that Manny demanded that Floyd be fined 10 MILLION DOLLARS for every pound he came in overweight. Show me the AC rule that says "a fighter shall be fined 10 MILLION for every pound he comes in overweight".

People also forget that Manny demanded Cotto defend his welterweight belt at a CATCHWEIGHT. When have you ever seen a 147lb title being contested at a weight other than 147lbs?

So why does Manny get a free pass for this crap, while Floyd is labelled a ducker for demanding stricter drug testing? It's a legitimite request because drug testing in boxing (and a lot of pro sports in general) is an absolute joke.

Here's the difference. Floyd had blown his cotnracted weight with JMM. In other words Manny had a REASON for that requirment. Floyd had previously shown bad faith.

On nthe 147 division being defended at a catchweight? Has happened MANY times. Here's just a few. Armstrong-Ross, Walcott-Gans, Armstrong-Jenkins and Griffith-Charnely.

[C-Lo]

Show me proof Pacquiao is on PEDs and you have another Pachater on my part. Not speculation, hypothesis, or situations, I just was PROOF.

Show me proof that he's NOT on roids. Show me a CLEAN random blood test.

I want proof he's not on roids.


Here's another thing.

Why don't pac fans want manny to take a test? Surely pacfans should want him to take a test, pass it and then rub it in the face of every floyd fan and doubter etc... To me I don't think pacfans are convinced. To me they seem scared he might fail the test.

But this is why i think pacfans are not boxing fans, they're just pacfrans. Any boxing fan would want to see stricter testing and more importantly a fair playing field in every fight. In my view pac fans don't want this cuz they dont want their boy to take a test.

If your not for testing, fair fights and an even playing field then you ain't a fan of boxing.

That's an easy one. PROOF is he hasn't failed a drug test yet. Blood test are not the standard set by the commission. Pacquiao has never failed nor come up with questionable results on the standard testing. Give me proof he's on steroids?

[marbleheadmaui]

Something about this whole discussion puzzles me.

When did we as a culture stop shaming people for making unsubstantiated allegations like this?

[mnmc10]

we are just going around in circles. first off there is a standard in drug testing in boxing. pac obliges to that drug testing. second in the 2nd negotiations pac agreed to pbf's demands. fight still didnt pushed thru cause pbf needs a vacation.

hornfinger will keep on winning the argument of "random blood tests for pac" until the boxing drug test standard includes that in their rule. till then hornfinger is asking for the impossible. do yourself a favor, on pacs next fight go there personally beg them to take blood tests and pay for it. that way youll know for sure if pacs blood is clean.

[Hornfinger]

Show me proof Pacquiao is on PEDs and you have another Pachater on my part. Not speculation, hypothesis, or situations, I just was PROOF.

Show me proof that he's NOT on roids. Show me a CLEAN random blood test.

I want proof he's not on roids.


Here's another thing.

Why don't pac fans want manny to take a test? Surely pacfans should want him to take a test, pass it and then rub it in the face of every floyd fan and doubter etc... To me I don't think pacfans are convinced. To me they seem scared he might fail the test.

But this is why i think pacfans are not boxing fans, they're just pacfrans. Any boxing fan would want to see stricter testing and more importantly a fair playing field in every fight. In my view pac fans don't want this cuz they dont want their boy to take a test.

If your not for testing, fair fights and an even playing field then you ain't a fan of boxing.

That's an easy one. PROOF is he hasn't failed a drug test yet. Blood test are not the standard set by the commission. Pacquiao has never failed nor come up with questionable results on the standard testing. Give me proof he's on steroids?

When's he passed a random blood test?

You've got to be an uneducated muppet to think that a urine test will detect any modern day steroids or testosterone boosters not to mention growth hormones.

The standard test is inadequate everyone knows that.

Wheres the clean blood test results?

I'm still waiting for undisputeable proof he's clean.

[Beanflicker]

On nthe 147 division being defended at a catchweight? Has happened MANY times. Here's just a few. Armstrong-Ross, Walcott-Gans, Armstrong-Jenkins and Griffith-Charnely.

Armstrong/Ross was no catch weight, Ross never weighted in at more that 142 or 143 his whole career. Walcott/Gans was a non-title fight, and neither was Armstrong/Jenkins. I dont know if Griffith/Charnely was either.

[marbleheadmaui]

On nthe 147 division being defended at a catchweight? Has happened MANY times. Here's just a few. Armstrong-Ross, Walcott-Gans, Armstrong-Jenkins and Griffith-Charnely.

Armstrong/Ross was no catch weight, Ross never weighted in at more that 142 or 143 his whole career. Walcott/Gans was a non-title fight, and neither was Armstrong/Jenkins. I dont know if Griffith/Charnely was either.

Armstrong-Ross required both a MAXIMUM weight from Ross and a MINIMUM weight from Armstrong. The others were non-title fights. But there have been other catchweight title fights at 147 and other divisions) , I'll get more names.

BTW none of the 147 fights Manny has been involved with were title fights in any meaningful sense either.