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    Default Re: "To Hit and Not Be Hit Boxers" - Steve Kim

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui View Post
    I think more people line up to see car wrecks than to see good driving.

    I couldn't care less what most people do.

    Ward is efficient and effective as hell. People who believe themselves to be dedicated boxing fans and yet cannot appreciate it need to do a better job of understanding boxing and what they are seeing.

    The worship of men like Arturo Gatti sets the sport back in my view.
    Steve Kim's point as I understand it was that those same people that appreciate Andre Ward's defensive style don't buy tickets and don't financially support the sport. As much as you may not want to admit it, the Saul Alvarez and Manny Pacquiao's are great for boxing because they put people in seats and keep the sport at least somewhat relevant.
    Also, I'm sure defensive doesn't have to mean boring. Marble - can you name defensive fighters of yesteryear that were able to hype the crowd?

    And Fenster made a good point, there are plenty of defensive fighters that have never been in a memorable fight. Perhaps, great fighters too.
    I admit the bold. Grudgingly and with teeth grinding. Dumbing down the sport to the lowest common denominator is a weak second choice to educating the fans to what they are seeing [grumble, grumble]

    Sweet Pea sure shut up the Alamodome against Chavez! Pep had the Garden rocking against Saddler in their second fight. Benny Leonard drew 70,000 several times. Niclino Locche would have people calling his name and cheering when he made the other guy miss. It was like a bullfight. Muhammad Ali's defining characterstics were his moving and not getting hit. He was the biggest name in history.

    I also think Fenster is just wrong about great defensive fighters never being in a memorable fight. I'd LOVE to see that list!
    Last edited by marbleheadmaui; 05-16-2011 at 10:20 PM.
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