WTF is PBF demanding w/ those Blood Tests???

[mafiajoey]

The thing is when Manny came up with the excuses with regards to not accepting Floyd's drug test terms in the first negotiation, I was one of those who criticized him. And I'm a pacfan! I wish he called in Floyd's bluff because I truly think that Mayweather is just trying to find a way out of the fight. The ball was tossed in Manny's court and he blew it. Although I believe he had not used any PED or whatever drugs they accused him of, his behavior created a suspicion (no matter how small it is) to be implanted at the back of my mind. And to think that Manny tried to seek a compromise then by agreeing to lowering the cut-off date for the blood test.

Forward to the second negotiation, Manny accepted Floyd's drug test demand. The ball is now in Floyd's court. Whatever suspicion I have had been erased. Now, Floyd's excuses as to why the second negotiation failed (like there was no negotiation at all or going on vacation) reinforced my earlier belief that he was indeed ducking Manny. Mayweather did not even sought a compromise in this negotiation.

There was also no proof I stole over a half million dollars in Plasmas one year. But I knew if I took the lie detector I would be guilty. So instead of taking the test I cried "False Accusations."

But would you agree to take the lie detector test if it's your accuser and not law enforcement or the court who is insisting that you take it?

Very good point..... I hear you. Everything can be argued. I just think Pac let me down and in my book looks guilty. Who wouldn't take a test for 50milli? Because saying Floyd is willing to pass 50milli over a test is fine in my book. Especially with Pacs B.S. excuses.. Anyways Pac needs to just put Floyd on blast and call him out. A "Real" call out. I mean papers and shit. Everyone is so fast to say Pac agreed or agrees but his shit is always coming up with new lame excuses. HE needs to stick to one story. And Floyd stick to the one demand. If Manny agrees on paper and Floyd comes up with new shit I will personally take a shit outside Floyds house. But it has to be proven. And I give all of you my word. This I swear on my dead father. I will shit outside on Floyds driveway. And we can You Tube it like all of Floyds other rant videos and call it "Floyd Got Shit On"

Pac let me down too in the first negotiation but he made up for it in the second.

It's unfair to put the blame on Manny for not taking the test for 50 million (I don't think it's 50 million) and yet it's fine for Floyd to pass it over a test.

Pac does not call out his opponents. He just respond to media questions about whether he would be willing to fight such an opponent. Floyd is the one who calls out his opponents. After Mayweather beat Mosley, he called out Pacquiao but when Manny agreed to his blood test demand he went on vacation.
Floyd Mayweather Jr calls out Manny Pacquiao after beating Shane Mosley | Sport | guardian.co.uk

Let us know ahead of time when you're going to shit on Floyd's driveway so that we can have our videos ready. Are the media okey to attend?

Finally, I just want to know what your response to this will be. Would you agree to take a lie detector test if your accuser and not law enforcement or the court is the one insisting that you take it? If it was me, I won't and I'll tell him to go to hell.

Remember I said if Manny signs and sends shit over and I want proof....


And finally since your asking me about the law enforcement not asking but my accuser....I will reply accordingly since everyone trys to pick these analogies apart in order to benefit PAC

If taking the test was to either save my job or lose my job because my accuser isn't the law but it's my boss. And my boss has reason to wonder because of rumors. And my boss isn't just making me take it....the others will take it too. Then no, I won't take the test I will come up with a bullshit excuse because I'm guilty. If I wasn't guilty I would rather take the test and keep my job. But in this case I would just say that my boss is false accusing me and point all blame to them and walk out instead of understanding the entire situation. Then I will huff and puff and say no job is worth these false accusations. I will just play my good guy card and get crazy man that I would even be considered. Cause that's exactly what I did...just like Pac does. And it worked and it works for him.

And I was a die hard Pac fan until he said no to the test.....anything after him saying no as in him agreeing is all bullshit... I don't believe he ever agreed to anything because anytime he is asked he never says anything. It's all bullshit from Bob to keep Manny from losing. Bob dick rides his top fighter. Cause Oscar was the greatest ever just like Floyd was until they left Bob

[Hornfinger]

Show me proof Pacquiao is on PEDs and you have another Pachater on my part. Not speculation, hypothesis, or situations, I just was PROOF.

Show me proof that he's NOT on roids. Show me a CLEAN random blood test.

I want proof he's not on roids.


Here's another thing.

Why don't pac fans want manny to take a test? Surely pacfans should want him to take a test, pass it and then rub it in the face of every floyd fan and doubter etc... To me I don't think pacfans are convinced. To me they seem scared he might fail the test.

But this is why i think pacfans are not boxing fans, they're just pacfrans. Any boxing fan would want to see stricter testing and more importantly a fair playing field in every fight. In my view pac fans don't want this cuz they dont want their boy to take a test.

If your not for testing, fair fights and an even playing field then you ain't a fan of boxing.

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When you can't argue a point resort to the tactics and mentallity of a 4 year old.

[C-Lo]

Where's the rebuttal for my post Horn? Everytime I've posted that, no one has said anything back regardless of the thread.

[mafiajoey]

Show me proof Pacquiao is on PEDs and you have another Pachater on my part. Not speculation, hypothesis, or situations, I just was PROOF.

Show me proof that he's NOT on roids. Show me a CLEAN random blood test.

I want proof he's not on roids.


Here's another thing.

Why don't pac fans want manny to take a test? Surely pacfans should want him to take a test, pass it and then rub it in the face of every floyd fan and doubter etc... To me I don't think pacfans are convinced. To me they seem scared he might fail the test.

But this is why i think pacfans are not boxing fans, they're just pacfrans. Any boxing fan would want to see stricter testing and more importantly a fair playing field in every fight. In my view pac fans don't want this cuz they dont want their boy to take a test.

If your not for testing, fair fights and an even playing field then you ain't a fan of boxing.

Well said

[Beanflicker]

On nthe 147 division being defended at a catchweight? Has happened MANY times. Here's just a few. Armstrong-Ross, Walcott-Gans, Armstrong-Jenkins and Griffith-Charnely.

Armstrong/Ross was no catch weight, Ross never weighted in at more that 142 or 143 his whole career. Walcott/Gans was a non-title fight, and neither was Armstrong/Jenkins. I dont know if Griffith/Charnely was either.

[:::PSL:::]

The thing is when Manny came up with the excuses with regards to not accepting Floyd's drug test terms in the first negotiation, I was one of those who criticized him. And I'm a pacfan! I wish he called in Floyd's bluff because I truly think that Mayweather is just trying to find a way out of the fight. The ball was tossed in Manny's court and he blew it. Although I believe he had not used any PED or whatever drugs they accused him of, his behavior created a suspicion (no matter how small it is) to be implanted at the back of my mind. And to think that Manny tried to seek a compromise then by agreeing to lowering the cut-off date for the blood test.

Forward to the second negotiation, Manny accepted Floyd's drug test demand. The ball is now in Floyd's court. Whatever suspicion I have had been erased. Now, Floyd's excuses as to why the second negotiation failed (like there was no negotiation at all or going on vacation) reinforced my earlier belief that he was indeed ducking Manny. Mayweather did not even sought a compromise in this negotiation.

There was also no proof I stole over a half million dollars in Plasmas one year. But I knew if I took the lie detector I would be guilty. So instead of taking the test I cried "False Accusations."

But would you agree to take the lie detector test if it's your accuser and not law enforcement or the court who is insisting that you take it?

Very good point..... I hear you. Everything can be argued. I just think Pac let me down and in my book looks guilty. Who wouldn't take a test for 50milli? Because saying Floyd is willing to pass 50milli over a test is fine in my book. Especially with Pacs B.S. excuses.. Anyways Pac needs to just put Floyd on blast and call him out. A "Real" call out. I mean papers and shit. Everyone is so fast to say Pac agreed or agrees but his shit is always coming up with new lame excuses. HE needs to stick to one story. And Floyd stick to the one demand. If Manny agrees on paper and Floyd comes up with new shit I will personally take a shit outside Floyds house. But it has to be proven. And I give all of you my word. This I swear on my dead father. I will shit outside on Floyds driveway. And we can You Tube it like all of Floyds other rant videos and call it "Floyd Got Shit On"

Pac let me down too in the first negotiation but he made up for it in the second.

It's unfair to put the blame on Manny for not taking the test for 50 million (I don't think it's 50 million) and yet it's fine for Floyd to pass it over a test.

Pac does not call out his opponents. He just respond to media questions about whether he would be willing to fight such an opponent. Floyd is the one who calls out his opponents. After Mayweather beat Mosley, he called out Pacquiao but when Manny agreed to his blood test demand he went on vacation.
Floyd Mayweather Jr calls out Manny Pacquiao after beating Shane Mosley | Sport | guardian.co.uk

Let us know ahead of time when you're going to shit on Floyd's driveway so that we can have our videos ready. Are the media okey to attend?

Finally, I just want to know what your response to this will be. Would you agree to take a lie detector test if your accuser and not law enforcement or the court is the one insisting that you take it? If it was me, I won't and I'll tell him to go to hell.

Remember I said if Manny signs and sends shit over and I want proof....


And finally since your asking me about the law enforcement not asking but my accuser....I will reply accordingly since everyone trys to pick these analogies apart in order to benefit PAC

If taking the test was to either save my job or lose my job because my accuser isn't the law but it's my boss. And my boss has reason to wonder because of rumors. And my boss isn't just making me take it....the others will take it too. Then no, I won't take the test I will come up with a bullshit excuse because I'm guilty. If I wasn't guilty I would rather take the test and keep my job. But in this case I would just say that my boss is false accusing me and point all blame to them and walk out instead of understanding the entire situation. Then I will huff and puff and say no job is worth these false accusations. I will just play my good guy card and get crazy man that I would even be considered. Cause that's exactly what I did...just like Pac does. And it worked and it works for him.

And I was a die hard Pac fan until he said no to the test.....anything after him saying no as in him agreeing is all bullshit... I don't believe he ever agreed to anything because anytime he is asked he never says anything. It's all bullshit from Bob to keep Manny from losing. Bob dick rides his top fighter. Cause Oscar was the greatest ever just like Floyd was until they left Bob

The problem with your analogy is... Floyd Mayweather Jr is not the boss.

State Athletic Commision is.

[mafiajoey]

The thing is when Manny came up with the excuses with regards to not accepting Floyd's drug test terms in the first negotiation, I was one of those who criticized him. And I'm a pacfan! I wish he called in Floyd's bluff because I truly think that Mayweather is just trying to find a way out of the fight. The ball was tossed in Manny's court and he blew it. Although I believe he had not used any PED or whatever drugs they accused him of, his behavior created a suspicion (no matter how small it is) to be implanted at the back of my mind. And to think that Manny tried to seek a compromise then by agreeing to lowering the cut-off date for the blood test.

Forward to the second negotiation, Manny accepted Floyd's drug test demand. The ball is now in Floyd's court. Whatever suspicion I have had been erased. Now, Floyd's excuses as to why the second negotiation failed (like there was no negotiation at all or going on vacation) reinforced my earlier belief that he was indeed ducking Manny. Mayweather did not even sought a compromise in this negotiation.

There was also no proof I stole over a half million dollars in Plasmas one year. But I knew if I took the lie detector I would be guilty. So instead of taking the test I cried "False Accusations."

But would you agree to take the lie detector test if it's your accuser and not law enforcement or the court who is insisting that you take it?

Very good point..... I hear you. Everything can be argued. I just think Pac let me down and in my book looks guilty. Who wouldn't take a test for 50milli? Because saying Floyd is willing to pass 50milli over a test is fine in my book. Especially with Pacs B.S. excuses.. Anyways Pac needs to just put Floyd on blast and call him out. A "Real" call out. I mean papers and shit. Everyone is so fast to say Pac agreed or agrees but his shit is always coming up with new lame excuses. HE needs to stick to one story. And Floyd stick to the one demand. If Manny agrees on paper and Floyd comes up with new shit I will personally take a shit outside Floyds house. But it has to be proven. And I give all of you my word. This I swear on my dead father. I will shit outside on Floyds driveway. And we can You Tube it like all of Floyds other rant videos and call it "Floyd Got Shit On"

Pac let me down too in the first negotiation but he made up for it in the second.

It's unfair to put the blame on Manny for not taking the test for 50 million (I don't think it's 50 million) and yet it's fine for Floyd to pass it over a test.

Pac does not call out his opponents. He just respond to media questions about whether he would be willing to fight such an opponent. Floyd is the one who calls out his opponents. After Mayweather beat Mosley, he called out Pacquiao but when Manny agreed to his blood test demand he went on vacation.
Floyd Mayweather Jr calls out Manny Pacquiao after beating Shane Mosley | Sport | guardian.co.uk

Let us know ahead of time when you're going to shit on Floyd's driveway so that we can have our videos ready. Are the media okey to attend?

Finally, I just want to know what your response to this will be. Would you agree to take a lie detector test if your accuser and not law enforcement or the court is the one insisting that you take it? If it was me, I won't and I'll tell him to go to hell.

Remember I said if Manny signs and sends shit over and I want proof....


And finally since your asking me about the law enforcement not asking but my accuser....I will reply accordingly since everyone trys to pick these analogies apart in order to benefit PAC

If taking the test was to either save my job or lose my job because my accuser isn't the law but it's my boss. And my boss has reason to wonder because of rumors. And my boss isn't just making me take it....the others will take it too. Then no, I won't take the test I will come up with a bullshit excuse because I'm guilty. If I wasn't guilty I would rather take the test and keep my job. But in this case I would just say that my boss is false accusing me and point all blame to them and walk out instead of understanding the entire situation. Then I will huff and puff and say no job is worth these false accusations. I will just play my good guy card and get crazy man that I would even be considered. Cause that's exactly what I did...just like Pac does. And it worked and it works for him.

And I was a die hard Pac fan until he said no to the test.....anything after him saying no as in him agreeing is all bullshit... I don't believe he ever agreed to anything because anytime he is asked he never says anything. It's all bullshit from Bob to keep Manny from losing. Bob dick rides his top fighter. Cause Oscar was the greatest ever just like Floyd was until they left Bob

The problem with your analogy is... Floyd Mayweather Jr is not the boss.

State Athletic Commision is.

If Manny doesn't want walk away from 50 million then he does what Floyd wants as if I wanted to keep my job I do what my employer asks. Just like I was asked. You can always twist the analogies to benefit Pac. Just like the B.S. article that recently came out that HGH is detectable now in urine. Oh god here we go....the Pactard won't take the time to read the article they will just jump on Floyd.

[fan johnny]

Show me proof Pacquiao is on PEDs and you have another Pachater on my part. Not speculation, hypothesis, or situations, I just was PROOF.

Show me proof that he's NOT on roids. Show me a CLEAN random blood test.

I want proof he's not on roids.


Here's another thing.

Why don't pac fans want manny to take a test? Surely pacfans should want him to take a test, pass it and then rub it in the face of every floyd fan and doubter etc... To me I don't think pacfans are convinced. To me they seem scared he might fail the test.

But this is why i think pacfans are not boxing fans, they're just pacfrans. Any boxing fan would want to see stricter testing and more importantly a fair playing field in every fight. In my view pac fans don't want this cuz they dont want their boy to take a test.

If your not for testing, fair fights and an even playing field then you ain't a fan of boxing.

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When you can't argue a point resort to the tactics and mentallity of a 4 year old.

Absolutely not! I was being polite at your level! You took someones post and attached my name to it! For that, you're an ass!

I and others have given you plenty of rational statements in this thread to which your reply is only childish.

I challenge you to provide "Any Athlete's blood test results" as proof that they were clean from drug usage. Again that is "Any Athlete.

[:::PSL:::]

The thing is when Manny came up with the excuses with regards to not accepting Floyd's drug test terms in the first negotiation, I was one of those who criticized him. And I'm a pacfan! I wish he called in Floyd's bluff because I truly think that Mayweather is just trying to find a way out of the fight. The ball was tossed in Manny's court and he blew it. Although I believe he had not used any PED or whatever drugs they accused him of, his behavior created a suspicion (no matter how small it is) to be implanted at the back of my mind. And to think that Manny tried to seek a compromise then by agreeing to lowering the cut-off date for the blood test.

Forward to the second negotiation, Manny accepted Floyd's drug test demand. The ball is now in Floyd's court. Whatever suspicion I have had been erased. Now, Floyd's excuses as to why the second negotiation failed (like there was no negotiation at all or going on vacation) reinforced my earlier belief that he was indeed ducking Manny. Mayweather did not even sought a compromise in this negotiation.

There was also no proof I stole over a half million dollars in Plasmas one year. But I knew if I took the lie detector I would be guilty. So instead of taking the test I cried "False Accusations."

But would you agree to take the lie detector test if it's your accuser and not law enforcement or the court who is insisting that you take it?

Very good point..... I hear you. Everything can be argued. I just think Pac let me down and in my book looks guilty. Who wouldn't take a test for 50milli? Because saying Floyd is willing to pass 50milli over a test is fine in my book. Especially with Pacs B.S. excuses.. Anyways Pac needs to just put Floyd on blast and call him out. A "Real" call out. I mean papers and shit. Everyone is so fast to say Pac agreed or agrees but his shit is always coming up with new lame excuses. HE needs to stick to one story. And Floyd stick to the one demand. If Manny agrees on paper and Floyd comes up with new shit I will personally take a shit outside Floyds house. But it has to be proven. And I give all of you my word. This I swear on my dead father. I will shit outside on Floyds driveway. And we can You Tube it like all of Floyds other rant videos and call it "Floyd Got Shit On"

Pac let me down too in the first negotiation but he made up for it in the second.

It's unfair to put the blame on Manny for not taking the test for 50 million (I don't think it's 50 million) and yet it's fine for Floyd to pass it over a test.

Pac does not call out his opponents. He just respond to media questions about whether he would be willing to fight such an opponent. Floyd is the one who calls out his opponents. After Mayweather beat Mosley, he called out Pacquiao but when Manny agreed to his blood test demand he went on vacation.
Floyd Mayweather Jr calls out Manny Pacquiao after beating Shane Mosley | Sport | guardian.co.uk

Let us know ahead of time when you're going to shit on Floyd's driveway so that we can have our videos ready. Are the media okey to attend?

Finally, I just want to know what your response to this will be. Would you agree to take a lie detector test if your accuser and not law enforcement or the court is the one insisting that you take it? If it was me, I won't and I'll tell him to go to hell.

Remember I said if Manny signs and sends shit over and I want proof....


And finally since your asking me about the law enforcement not asking but my accuser....I will reply accordingly since everyone trys to pick these analogies apart in order to benefit PAC

If taking the test was to either save my job or lose my job because my accuser isn't the law but it's my boss. And my boss has reason to wonder because of rumors. And my boss isn't just making me take it....the others will take it too. Then no, I won't take the test I will come up with a bullshit excuse because I'm guilty. If I wasn't guilty I would rather take the test and keep my job. But in this case I would just say that my boss is false accusing me and point all blame to them and walk out instead of understanding the entire situation. Then I will huff and puff and say no job is worth these false accusations. I will just play my good guy card and get crazy man that I would even be considered. Cause that's exactly what I did...just like Pac does. And it worked and it works for him.

And I was a die hard Pac fan until he said no to the test.....anything after him saying no as in him agreeing is all bullshit... I don't believe he ever agreed to anything because anytime he is asked he never says anything. It's all bullshit from Bob to keep Manny from losing. Bob dick rides his top fighter. Cause Oscar was the greatest ever just like Floyd was until they left Bob

The problem with your analogy is... Floyd Mayweather Jr is not the boss.

State Athletic Commision is.

If Manny doesn't want walk away from 50 million then he does what Floyd wants as if I wanted to keep my job I do what my employer asks. Just like I was asked. You can always twist the analogies to benefit Pac. Just like the B.S. article that recently came out that HGH is detectable now in urine. Oh god here we go....the Pactard won't take the time to read the article they will just jump on Floyd.

Floyd is not Keith Kizer. And you don't turn steroid expert just by reading news articles.

[InTheNeutralCorner]

The thing is when Manny came up with the excuses with regards to not accepting Floyd's drug test terms in the first negotiation, I was one of those who criticized him. And I'm a pacfan! I wish he called in Floyd's bluff because I truly think that Mayweather is just trying to find a way out of the fight. The ball was tossed in Manny's court and he blew it. Although I believe he had not used any PED or whatever drugs they accused him of, his behavior created a suspicion (no matter how small it is) to be implanted at the back of my mind. And to think that Manny tried to seek a compromise then by agreeing to lowering the cut-off date for the blood test.

Forward to the second negotiation, Manny accepted Floyd's drug test demand. The ball is now in Floyd's court. Whatever suspicion I have had been erased. Now, Floyd's excuses as to why the second negotiation failed (like there was no negotiation at all or going on vacation) reinforced my earlier belief that he was indeed ducking Manny. Mayweather did not even sought a compromise in this negotiation.

There was also no proof I stole over a half million dollars in Plasmas one year. But I knew if I took the lie detector I would be guilty. So instead of taking the test I cried "False Accusations."

But would you agree to take the lie detector test if it's your accuser and not law enforcement or the court who is insisting that you take it?

Very good point..... I hear you. Everything can be argued. I just think Pac let me down and in my book looks guilty. Who wouldn't take a test for 50milli? Because saying Floyd is willing to pass 50milli over a test is fine in my book. Especially with Pacs B.S. excuses.. Anyways Pac needs to just put Floyd on blast and call him out. A "Real" call out. I mean papers and shit. Everyone is so fast to say Pac agreed or agrees but his shit is always coming up with new lame excuses. HE needs to stick to one story. And Floyd stick to the one demand. If Manny agrees on paper and Floyd comes up with new shit I will personally take a shit outside Floyds house. But it has to be proven. And I give all of you my word. This I swear on my dead father. I will shit outside on Floyds driveway. And we can You Tube it like all of Floyds other rant videos and call it "Floyd Got Shit On"

Pac let me down too in the first negotiation but he made up for it in the second.

It's unfair to put the blame on Manny for not taking the test for 50 million (I don't think it's 50 million) and yet it's fine for Floyd to pass it over a test.

Pac does not call out his opponents. He just respond to media questions about whether he would be willing to fight such an opponent. Floyd is the one who calls out his opponents. After Mayweather beat Mosley, he called out Pacquiao but when Manny agreed to his blood test demand he went on vacation.
Floyd Mayweather Jr calls out Manny Pacquiao after beating Shane Mosley | Sport | guardian.co.uk

Let us know ahead of time when you're going to shit on Floyd's driveway so that we can have our videos ready. Are the media okey to attend?

Finally, I just want to know what your response to this will be. Would you agree to take a lie detector test if your accuser and not law enforcement or the court is the one insisting that you take it? If it was me, I won't and I'll tell him to go to hell.

Remember I said if Manny signs and sends shit over and I want proof....


And finally since your asking me about the law enforcement not asking but my accuser....I will reply accordingly since everyone trys to pick these analogies apart in order to benefit PAC

If taking the test was to either save my job or lose my job because my accuser isn't the law but it's my boss. And my boss has reason to wonder because of rumors. And my boss isn't just making me take it....the others will take it too. Then no, I won't take the test I will come up with a bullshit excuse because I'm guilty. If I wasn't guilty I would rather take the test and keep my job. But in this case I would just say that my boss is false accusing me and point all blame to them and walk out instead of understanding the entire situation. Then I will huff and puff and say no job is worth these false accusations. I will just play my good guy card and get crazy man that I would even be considered. Cause that's exactly what I did...just like Pac does. And it worked and it works for him.

And I was a die hard Pac fan until he said no to the test.....anything after him saying no as in him agreeing is all bullshit... I don't believe he ever agreed to anything because anytime he is asked he never says anything. It's all bullshit from Bob to keep Manny from losing. Bob dick rides his top fighter. Cause Oscar was the greatest ever just like Floyd was until they left Bob

The problem with your analogy is... Floyd Mayweather Jr is not the boss.

State Athletic Commision is.

And it isn't like Manny is going to lose a job. There is a lot of it for him and he even has a choice of the job (opponent, that is).

[InTheNeutralCorner]

Where's the rebuttal for my post Horn? Everytime I've posted that, no one has said anything back regardless of the thread.

Yes, Horn, where is it? Where is the proof? Show me the proof and I'll be the number 1 Pachater in this forum. I'll do what mafiajoey intents to do with Floyd, shit on Pac's driveway and everyone can video it for youtube.

Where is the proof!!!

[brocktonblockbust]

yeah Horn, bring it BIOTCH

[marbleheadmaui]

On nthe 147 division being defended at a catchweight? Has happened MANY times. Here's just a few. Armstrong-Ross, Walcott-Gans, Armstrong-Jenkins and Griffith-Charnely.

Armstrong/Ross was no catch weight, Ross never weighted in at more that 142 or 143 his whole career. Walcott/Gans was a non-title fight, and neither was Armstrong/Jenkins. I dont know if Griffith/Charnely was either.

Armstrong-Ross required both a MAXIMUM weight from Ross and a MINIMUM weight from Armstrong. The others were non-title fights. But there have been other catchweight title fights at 147 and other divisions) , I'll get more names.

BTW none of the 147 fights Manny has been involved with were title fights in any meaningful sense either.

[Hornfinger]

Show me proof Pacquiao is on PEDs and you have another Pachater on my part. Not speculation, hypothesis, or situations, I just was PROOF.

Show me proof that he's NOT on roids. Show me a CLEAN random blood test.

I want proof he's not on roids.


Here's another thing.

Why don't pac fans want manny to take a test? Surely pacfans should want him to take a test, pass it and then rub it in the face of every floyd fan and doubter etc... To me I don't think pacfans are convinced. To me they seem scared he might fail the test.

But this is why i think pacfans are not boxing fans, they're just pacfrans. Any boxing fan would want to see stricter testing and more importantly a fair playing field in every fight. In my view pac fans don't want this cuz they dont want their boy to take a test.

If your not for testing, fair fights and an even playing field then you ain't a fan of boxing.

That's an easy one. PROOF is he hasn't failed a drug test yet. Blood test are not the standard set by the commission. Pacquiao has never failed nor come up with questionable results on the standard testing. Give me proof he's on steroids?

When's he passed a random blood test?

You've got to be an uneducated muppet to think that a urine test will detect any modern day steroids or testosterone boosters not to mention growth hormones.

The standard test is inadequate everyone knows that.

Wheres the clean blood test results?

I'm still waiting for undisputeable proof he's clean.

[Hornfinger]

Where's the rebuttal for my post Horn? Everytime I've posted that, no one has said anything back regardless of the thread.

Yes, Horn, where is it? Where is the proof? Show me the proof and I'll be the number 1 Pachater in this forum. I'll do what mafiajoey intents to do with Floyd, shit on Pac's driveway and everyone can video it for youtube.

Where is the proof!!!

Where's the proof he's clean. See the post reply I've just done.