Bellew v cleverly confirmed

[Fenster]

decent little matchup, very khan-mcloskey esque

cleverly should have him out of there mid to late rounds

You are the master of crap comparisons.

Khan = world-class WBA "world" champion. McCloskey = never fought anyone close to world-class.

Cleverly = never fought anyone close to world-class. Bellew = never fought anyone close to world-class.

[HattonTheHammer]

decent little matchup, very khan-mcloskey esque

cleverly should have him out of there mid to late rounds

You are the master of crap comparisons.

Khan = world-class WBA "world" champion. McCloskey = never fought anyone close to world-class.

Cleverly = never fought anyone close to world-class. Bellew = never fought anyone close to world-class.

cleverly = world class potential
bellew = standard commonwealth level

if this isnt doesnt turn out to be a mismatch i will fly to ireland and nosh you off personally

[Fenster]

I'll have to nominate someone in Ireland to take my place considering I live in London.

I agree Cleverly is clearly the favourite. He is the most likely winner. However, he is not a puncher and likes a tear-up. If Bellew isn't dead making weight he is definitely the hardest puncher, and probably most dangerous fighter, Cleverly has faced. And he truly believes he can KO him.

Bellew's knockdowns have all been early. And a bit weird. Twice he's gone down really heavy but looks fine seconds after restarting the fight. That certainly doesn't bode well for his rushed prep mind...

[ross]

I'll have to nominate someone in Ireland to take my place considering I live in London.

I agree Cleverly is clearly the favourite. He is the most likely winner. However, he is not a puncher and likes a tear-up. If Bellew isn't dead making weight he is definitely the hardest puncher, and probably most dangerous fighter, Cleverly has faced. And he truly believes he can KO him.

Bellew's knockdowns have all been early. And a bit weird. Twice he's gone down really heavy but looks fine seconds after restarting the fight. That certainly doesn't bode well for his rushed prep mind...

How big of a puncher can hebe with only 10 ko's against 15 journeymen? Thats not a record that screams julian jackson, Mike Tyson or George Foreman. Also, regarding the knockdowns, as well as his punch resistance being worrying its how easy he is to catch with those shots.

Warren is basically ruining him as a fighter.

[skel1983]

I'll have to nominate someone in Ireland to take my place considering I live in London.

I agree Cleverly is clearly the favourite. He is the most likely winner. However, he is not a puncher and likes a tear-up. If Bellew isn't dead making weight he is definitely the hardest puncher, and probably most dangerous fighter, Cleverly has faced. And he truly believes he can KO him.

Bellew's knockdowns have all been early. And a bit weird. Twice he's gone down really heavy but looks fine seconds after restarting the fight. That certainly doesn't bode well for his rushed prep mind...

How big of a puncher can hebe with only 10 ko's against 15 journeymen? Thats not a record that screams julian jackson, Mike Tyson or George Foreman. Also, regarding the knockdowns, as well as his punch resistance being worrying its how easy he is to catch with those shots.

Warren is basically ruining him as a fighter.

What the fuck are you going on about now? Warren is ruining him? He is not putting him in against a prime fucking Roy Jones he is fighting a guy who looks good but has fought no one near world class, Tony is 28 this is the right time to sink or swim, he is fighting another young guy who has looked great so far but we don't no how good he is I think he will be too much for Tony especially at this short notice but this a great fight.

Tony wants this fight not Warren he told Frank as soon as the German pulled out he wanted the shot.

[ross]

I'll have to nominate someone in Ireland to take my place considering I live in London.

I agree Cleverly is clearly the favourite. He is the most likely winner. However, he is not a puncher and likes a tear-up. If Bellew isn't dead making weight he is definitely the hardest puncher, and probably most dangerous fighter, Cleverly has faced. And he truly believes he can KO him.

Bellew's knockdowns have all been early. And a bit weird. Twice he's gone down really heavy but looks fine seconds after restarting the fight. That certainly doesn't bode well for his rushed prep mind...

How big of a puncher can hebe with only 10 ko's against 15 journeymen? Thats not a record that screams julian jackson, Mike Tyson or George Foreman. Also, regarding the knockdowns, as well as his punch resistance being worrying its how easy he is to catch with those shots.

Warren is basically ruining him as a fighter.

What the fuck are you going on about now? Warren is ruining him? He is not putting him in against a prime fucking Roy Jones he is fighting a guy who looks good but has fought no one near world class, Tony is 28 this is the right time to sink or swim, he is fighting another young guy who has looked great so far but we don't no how good he is I think he will be too much for Tony especially at this short notice but this a great fight.

Tony wants this fight not Warren he told Frank as soon as the German pulled out he wanted the shot.

Bellew thinks he has the beating of Cleverly but going on his recent fights, I dont think so and ot many others do either. When he takes a beating as is brought back down to earth with a bang he will be mentally ruined. At 28 its a bit late in the day to have to start from scratch again. Its taken him long enough to get to this point, which was going to be a rematch with a british level journey man...

[skel1983]

I'll have to nominate someone in Ireland to take my place considering I live in London.

I agree Cleverly is clearly the favourite. He is the most likely winner. However, he is not a puncher and likes a tear-up. If Bellew isn't dead making weight he is definitely the hardest puncher, and probably most dangerous fighter, Cleverly has faced. And he truly believes he can KO him.

Bellew's knockdowns have all been early. And a bit weird. Twice he's gone down really heavy but looks fine seconds after restarting the fight. That certainly doesn't bode well for his rushed prep mind...

How big of a puncher can hebe with only 10 ko's against 15 journeymen? Thats not a record that screams julian jackson, Mike Tyson or George Foreman. Also, regarding the knockdowns, as well as his punch resistance being worrying its how easy he is to catch with those shots.

Warren is basically ruining him as a fighter.

What the fuck are you going on about now? Warren is ruining him? He is not putting him in against a prime fucking Roy Jones he is fighting a guy who looks good but has fought no one near world class, Tony is 28 this is the right time to sink or swim, he is fighting another young guy who has looked great so far but we don't no how good he is I think he will be too much for Tony especially at this short notice but this a great fight.

Tony wants this fight not Warren he told Frank as soon as the German pulled out he wanted the shot.

Bellew thinks he has the beating of Cleverly but going on his recent fights, I dont think so and ot many others do either. When he takes a beating as is brought back down to earth with a bang he will be mentally ruined. At 28 its a bit late in the day to have to start from scratch again. Its taken him long enough to get to this point, which was going to be a rematch with a british level journey man...

Yes thats totally unheard of an unbeaton prospect talking and wanting the number 1 in his division saying he knows he will beat him .

Are we taking about the same guy here Nathan Cleverly? The lad who has never fought a world class fighter and was fighting for the British title just over 18 months ago? I think your getting a bit carried away here pal, Cleverly aint Floyd Mayweather these two are only about three four fights apart in there progress experience, this is the right time for Tony only negative is the short notice.

[Fenster]

I'll have to nominate someone in Ireland to take my place considering I live in London.

I agree Cleverly is clearly the favourite. He is the most likely winner. However, he is not a puncher and likes a tear-up. If Bellew isn't dead making weight he is definitely the hardest puncher, and probably most dangerous fighter, Cleverly has faced. And he truly believes he can KO him.

Bellew's knockdowns have all been early. And a bit weird. Twice he's gone down really heavy but looks fine seconds after restarting the fight. That certainly doesn't bode well for his rushed prep mind...

How big of a puncher can hebe with only 10 ko's against 15 journeymen? Thats not a record that screams julian jackson, Mike Tyson or George Foreman. Also, regarding the knockdowns, as well as his punch resistance being worrying its how easy he is to catch with those shots.

Warren is basically ruining him as a fighter.

Nowhere have I said he rates alongside the fiercest punchers in history. That's ridiculous. For this LEVEL Bellew has shown above average punch power. I think he has the power to hurt Cleverly. Maybe i'm wrong.

Look how many times the journeymen that have taken him the distance have been stopped? Hardly at all. Because they are survival experts. They are normally harder to stop than guys with ambition that open up. Plus these fights are just 4-6 rounders. The left hook he flattened McKenzie with in 8th round last time at least shows he retains power from the early rounds.

As Skel said - he's fighting a fellow prospect this saturday. He is not being matched with Hopkins or Pascal

[erics44]

if he gets KOed inside a round will it fuck up his career?

he may also give a very good account of himself against a prsopect everyone is raving about and if that happens a defeat could still lift his career

[ross]

if he gets KOed inside a round will it fuck up his career?

he may also give a very good account of himself against a prsopect everyone is raving about and if that happens a defeat could still lift his career

Yeah but I like arguing

He does seem to think he is gods gift to knockouts though and a bad loss will take that confidence away and could make him gunshy.

[erics44]

if he gets KOed inside a round will it fuck up his career?

he may also give a very good account of himself against a prsopect everyone is raving about and if that happens a defeat could still lift his career

Yeah but I like arguing

He does seem to think he is gods gift to knockouts though and a bad loss will take that confidence away and could make him gunshy.

what i said could be bollox anyway, when has a defeat ever lifted someones career?