Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
Quote Originally Posted by MMASUX View Post
I don't understand all this hate for Martinez, i thought everyone liked him It would be nice for him to clean up the division, but are there any worthy opponents outside of Strum? I don't see Strum leaving Germany to fight him, and i don't expect Martinez who is the bigger name to go to Germany. Maybe his only choice is to clean up the division while the SS is finishing up. So who does he fight at 160, Zbik, Pirog, Andy Lee? Let's be honest the way the SS has gone it's probably going to be a year before he gets a fight with the winner. Assuming it's Ward-Froch late this year, then the winner of that fighting Bute. Were talking about mid 2012 before he would get a fight with them. I understand as fans we would like for him to clean up the division, but i see his side also. He's trying to make a money fight happen now, instead of waiting around for Froch, Ward, Bute etc.
It's just Bilbo, the hobbit, who hates the the guy who provided us with the KO of the last year, and is never in an unentertaining scrap.
Fenster has made me hate him.

Some boxers get so much man love so soon from the boxing establishment and fans on here that I call bullshit when I see it.

When Christian Mijares suddenly got elevated into the p4p and people on here were saying his reign would last for years, only the hobbit spoke up and said 'Hang on just a minute, there is no way this guy is p4p yet based on his acomplishments' 'Ah but's it's skills and talents' they said. And what happened next? Wrecked by Darchinyan and then lost twice to a nobody, where is he now? How silly it was to stick him right up in the p4p elechons.


Now they have done the same with Giovani Segura, again, for what? Beating a 36 year old tiny man with zero punching power who himself was overated because he was so small?

A couple fights down the road Segura will take on some mighty 9-1-1 warrior from a South American jungle and lose a lopsided decision and a new star will be born.

It's ridiculous. The same with Pongolcrap Wonglecrap. Who has he fought to be above Bernard in the Ring rankings?

It's like having Henry Maske in the top 5 p4p after all he went undefeated for years too. Sturm hasn't lost in well over 10 fights and beat a fighter called Hearns. He must be as deserving as Pongolcrap.


I don't begrude Martinez his p4p status, he has earned it. But the idea that he has acomplished more than B Hop just grates me, and Fenster has been grating me, thus I am now officially a hater.

It's good to be a hater of some fighters. It creates interest and excitement when they get exposed. Martinez, Bute, Donaire. It will happen...mark my words.