Why my Love for Boxing is Wavering

[Spicoli]

Were all a little touched to follow this sport. Boxing is my fallout shelter in life. In many ways I like it because you have to work at it to follow it, off the grid.

[holmcall]

Were all a little touched to follow this sport. Boxing is my fallout shelter in life. In many ways I like it because you have to work at it to follow it, off the grid.

My first book was titled Boxing is my Sanctuary and it is because I feel safe withing the context of the sport, but like someone else said, my pleasure is feeling very guilty of late.

[Master]

Pleasure and guilt two side of the same coin. No issue with it.

[holmcall]

Pleasure and guilt two side of the same coin. No issue with it.

Very true. But I have been a fan for 55 years and this is the FIRST time I really hesitate about what I am seeing out there. I'm sure I'll come around, but the sleaze factor I researched in the Greg Page affair made me want to puke. Watching Jones get hammered doesn't help and listening to Holyfield deny he is on PEDS is bile-inducing

[Master]

Pleasure and guilt two side of the same coin. No issue with it.

Very true. But I have been a fan for 55 years and this is the FIRST time I really hesitate about what I am seeing out there. I'm sure I'll come around, but the sleaze factor I researched in the Greg Page affair made me want to puke. Watching Jones get hammered doesn't help and listening to Holyfield deny he is on PEDS is bile-inducing

It was for his dad.

There is a lot worse but the good outweigh the bad way more. King screwed a lot of boxers over, the mafia ruled boxing in the 40's, look at Ali being used for the Holmes fight. the list goes on but there is a lot more good. Roy Jones at his peak is the best boxer I have ever seen in my life time from 1986 and i would not change that for the world.

[holmcall]

Pleasure and guilt two side of the same coin. No issue with it.

Very true. But I have been a fan for 55 years and this is the FIRST time I really hesitate about what I am seeing out there. I'm sure I'll come around, but the sleaze factor I researched in the Greg Page affair made me want to puke. Watching Jones get hammered doesn't help and listening to Holyfield deny he is on PEDS is bile-inducing

It was for his dad.

There is a lot worse but the good outweigh the bad way more. King screwed a lot of boxers over, the mafia ruled boxing in the 40's, look at Ali being used for the Holmes fight. the list goes on but there is a lot more good. Roy Jones at his peak is the best boxer I have ever seen in my life time from 1986 and i would not change that for the world.

Good reply. Everything you say is spot on.

Speaking of Holyfield, he could have at least used a better alias--something like Mr Real Deal.

[Spicoli]

Were all a little touched to follow this sport. Boxing is my fallout shelter in life. In many ways I like it because you have to work at it to follow it, off the grid.

My first book was titled Boxing is my Sanctuary and it is because I feel safe withing the context of the sport, but like someone else said, my pleasure is feeling very guilty of late.

It may just catch up to you brother, like anything in mass quantity. I've it heard it likened to being in a abusive relationship at times.

The thing is as easy as it is to say alot of it is the big ugly brutal fact I can't stand the most....this sport has little recourse and accountability on the part of the officials and those put at the forefront to guard against abuse. Be it a guy fighting after successive ko's or three random judges who literally hold a guys career and immediate future in they're hands. In the former its medical and must take priority but from past superstars Jones jr to payed padders fighting week to week the lack of standards yells foul. Its happened from its birth...guys like Jones just give it a face and spotlight. I don't think its any worse then decades ago. Watching him get drubbed is sad but at the same time and begrudgingly he's passed medical standards other more youthful and less ktfo prone fighters have. He likewise has an accountability to not only himself but his family to make the individual decision to walk away. But the way boxing is set up its like having an open bar with no cut off when some guys can't even stand upright to order. Promoters, commissions, governing bodies, networks etc all have to be accountable, and likewise the fans as well to call bs on it and take the rose color glasses off.

[holmcall]

Were all a little touched to follow this sport. Boxing is my fallout shelter in life. In many ways I like it because you have to work at it to follow it, off the grid.

My first book was titled Boxing is my Sanctuary and it is because I feel safe withing the context of the sport, but like someone else said, my pleasure is feeling very guilty of late.

It may just catch up to you brother, like anything in mass quantity. I've it heard it likened to being in a abusive relationship at times.

The thing is as easy as it is to say alot of it is the big ugly brutal fact I can't stand the most....this sport has little recourse and accountability on the part of the officials and those put at the forefront to guard against abuse. Be it a guy fighting after successive ko's or three random judges who literally hold a guys career and immediate future in they're hands. In the former its medical and must take priority but from past superstars Jones jr to payed padders fighting week to week the lack of standards yells foul. Its happened from its birth...guys like Jones just give it a face and spotlight. I don't think its any worse then decades ago. Watching him get drubbed is sad but at the same time and begrudgingly he's passed medical standards other more youthful and less ktfo prone fighters have. He likewise has an accountability to not only himself but his family to make the individual decision to walk away. But the way boxing is set up its like having an open bar with no cut off when some guys can't even stand upright to order. Promoters, commissions, governing bodies, networks etc all have to be accountable, and likewise the fans as well to call bs on it and take the rose color glasses off.

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