Andre Berto implies Ortiz was juiced

[MMASUX]

Bullshit, he got beat and now he wan't to start this shit. Take it like a man and come back better from it. Just like Pascal saying "take the test!! take the test!!"

[IamInuit]

This is not all that surprising to me. I've been expecting it and thought the pre avalanche pebbles would have started down the mountain along time ago. Whether one thinks Peds are boxing's dirty little secret or boxing's new century excuse we had to know as fans that this kind of thing was coming. The truth lies somewhere in between I suppose. Their is no doubt imo that Peds are prevalent in this sport and imo its extremely naive to think they are not and yet many fighters will no doubt use this as an excuse. So far its just the odd blurb or tip of the ice berg but I think this will gradually become the story over the next decade.

[Spicoli]

Berto needs to shut his hole and spend less time on his tweeter and more time in the gym learning how to duck or someone else will come along and punch holes thru his defense like a wet cardboard box. Fool. Talking loud, saying nothin.

[Beanflicker]

I don't see how Ortiz looked any different than in his previous fights. Looked about the same size and speed to me.

[boxingbantz]

Everyone should just be allowed to use PEDS. The size and power some of the guys would possess would be awesome. The same should be allowed in the Olympics. People would be doing the 100m in 8seconds and pole vaulting out of the stadiums. The people would want to see this.

[generalbulldog]

Ortiz said he got some advice from Pac before the fight with Berto. Pac said, "Don't worry bro I got this good Pinoy drug that can make you walk through punches in the ring and bullets on the battlefield, you down with it?"

[blegit]

I do think PEDs are a lot more rampant in boxing than what people want to believe or willing to accept. But with Ortiz I think a lot of his success was from being in the right weight class. He was cutting way too much weight for 140. The guy could easily fight at 154 and not be at a size disadvantage. Plus, Berto was never what he thought he was. I don't think anyone saw him as a heavy favorite against Ortiz. Most probably saw it as a 50/50 fight. I think Berto went about this wrong. If he knows something then say it straight out. If you imply you know or think something and don't have anything to back it up with then you look silly and sour. Personally, I only saw an Ortiz that was not weight drained. He wasn't quicker, more powerful, or granite chinned. He was just fresher which a lot of times comes with cutting weight better or cutting less weight.

[Mar]

Was collazo juiced ? Cause he beat your ass too. Nothing worse than guys running thier mouths instead of running harder in the gym. This stupid shit that floyd haters help floyd get running around the sport is ridiculous. And floyd is just like berto juiced or not he shouldn't loose anyway.