I don't see haye as a brawled he's a japper, mover and sometimes counterer.
I expect the first couple rounds to be fairly quiet.
Haye has to hurt Wlad quite early though otherwise he will be steam rollered.
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I don't see haye as a brawled he's a japper, mover and sometimes counterer.
I expect the first couple rounds to be fairly quiet.
Haye has to hurt Wlad quite early though otherwise he will be steam rollered.
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He could try and box, he could try and blast him out. I think we're all missing something though.
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The problem with facing Wladimir is that he is fast enough you will not be able to avoid his punches by moving away, and he is punching with that jab behind you so its hard to get out of his range, but also he has become good enough to defensively that it's difficult to land a big punch from the outside. Yet on the inside he clinches right away. I think Haye has that dynamic Pacquiao type power and speed, but Wladimir has amazingly athletic talents in his own right plus a big advantage in size and technique. After watching Eddie Chambers who is roughly as fast as Haye but much better defensively get shut down, I have a hard time seeing Haye getting off his big punches.
But like I said, he's a special fighter with incredible athleticism and power. It's hard to equate how that plays out, but based on his fights with Harrison and Valuev, probably not well.
I think everyone knows my opinion on the fight....I just enjoy people racking their brains trying to figure out how Wlad can be beaten
I reckon it'll be a testy first round by the end of it. Wlad may try to land an early power punch to dictate the flow of the fight, his opponent will probably end up trying to "scare" Wlad like Eddie Chambers did figuring Wlad's never had to deal with a physical brawl....he'll figure wrong as Wlad uses his size, athletic ability, and strength to do what he always does, control pace and distance. Wlad by KO in 6...I doubt a soon to be retiree takes too much punishment before laying down for the 10 count or throwing in the towel.
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They will both go out there and box. But when the first big punch lands from Haye, Wlad will shit himself. Haye KO round 4
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For some reason, I just have a gut feeling that this fight will be delayed or call off. Just call it a hunch. I won't believe they are fighting until both of them are receiving instructions from the ref inside that ring.
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He will try to box, he will try and get past the jab to get on the inside and throw a quick combo to body then head before Wlad clinches then get out on the outside again looking for counters and a way to slip the jabs again.
1st big punch that lands from either fighter and thats then end of the fight imo.
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Well Eddie Chambers tried to body slam Wlad early in their fight....I think that might be part of the strategy of the WBA title holder just to try and psychologically shake Wlad. I also don't think its out of the question that we may see a few rabbit punches thrown by the WBA title holder.
If he sits outside trying to negate the jab he's going to get flattened because Wlad doesn't just jab he hooks off the jab....you've got to be more wary of that powerful hook than the jab.
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David throws quite a lot of rabbit punches. Wlad had issues with Peter throwing rabbit punches in their first fight so I imagine Wlad's chosen ref will be quick (and just) to penalise David for it.
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Haye can try and box, go for the KO, or get tricky, but it's not going to make any difference, Manny Steward is going to have Wlad ready for any of the bullshit Haye tries. I don't think this fight goes more then 8 rounds, Wlad is going to make a statement and knock this clown into next week.
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Haye can't stay on the outside: Wlad has a tremedous range and a lethal jab. That worked with the Giant and Fraudley because they are as slow as a drifting iceberg and not too sound technically. Not Wlad.
What I think is that Booth will try to get Haye to step inside, burst up in head/body combos and then step out, wait for Wlad to come toward him and while he does so, stepping in (while Wlad is on movement it should give him a tiny window where he won't perfectly be on balance to land good power shots or good jabs) doing the same and out till a good punch lands and brings the Ukrenian giant's down.
At least, that's what I could see as a potentially good tactics in the circumstances. I don't think Haye has a chance in hell though. Ok, perhaps a tiny one, it's the HWD after all.
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I'm laughing cuz chambers shoulda stuck with the wrestling antics cuz his boxing did fuck all that night.
I agree with most of what you've said apart from the rabbit punches, which is rediculous seeing as wlad is so much taller. If wlad is going to bend over that far and try to suck hayes' dick he deserves to get rabbit punched.
He can't beat wlad from the outside. That's obvious. It's going to bein and out tactics. Haye is either going to have to be a mile away from wlad or sat on his chest. If he falls into medium range he'll get eaten.
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