How did you score the Johnson vs. Froch fight ?

[Hulk]

I had Johnson fairly clearly winning 6 rounds. I was torn over whether to give him the 11th or not. So ultimately I had it a draw, as did one of the judges.

There were a lot of cocky Froch fans on here saying how Johnson was going to get dominated and such nonsense.

It was a good fight, and I was disapointed that Glen slowed down in the later rounds, as he took a early lead on my card.

Froch did well, but really got A LOT of credit for flashy combos that landed on Johnson's gloves. He never hurt Glen, and didn't land a whole lot of clean shots. Certainly was fresher down the stretch though.

How did you score it ?

[captainanddew]

I had Froch winning 7-5.

[killersheep]

I had a draw, I have no problems with the scoring (aside from the 117-111 one of course.)

[Gandalf]

I don't see how Johnson could have won or for it to be that close. The final two rounds made a relatively close fight fairly unanimous. Froch started slow, didn't really show any power, but came good with a Calzaghe-esque template ie throw more combos than the other guy and avoid taking too many punches. Johnson was outworked plain and simple, though obviously Froch likes to go for a walk and doesn't have Calzaghes workrate. Johnson was always in the fight, but couldn't compete for workrate and faded at the end. You don't win a fight on 6 right hands that look great, those types of people probably think Hopkins beat Calzaghe too. They are nuts.

116-112 to Froch.

[Hulk]

I felt Johnson was severely discredited by the commentators (Showtime) and the commentating was an absolute disgrace. It infuriated me to no end that ALL FOUR commentators were against Johnson and heavily biased.

Johnson did A TON of body work that he did not get credit for. And he hurt Froch with a couple of crisp right hands.

Froch answered back with some flashy Sugar Ray Leonard slapping combos that would hit Johnson's gloves, though occasionally a left hook would connect on Johnson.

This fight was very close much like Johnson vs. Cloud, with the big difference being Cloud HURT Johnson badly, where Froch never did.

I had Johnson winning the 1-3, 6-8, and possibly the 11th, but Froch probably won the 11th.

[Gandalf]

I didn't see the Showtime broadcast, but on the whole I think Jim Watt was okay with the British broadcast. He gave Johnson his credit for starting better and was critical of Froch for being so hesitant and allowing Johnson to lead, but you can't just go on the commentary. I think he was a little too critical of Froch at times and so I had Froch winning by a little bit more. Johnson did do some good body work and landed an eye catching lead right every couple of rounds or so, but it just wasn't enough. Froch responded to every Johnson attack with his own combinations and after working Johnson out by the middle point took over more and more in the second half. It was a solid, but somewhat uninspired win. A case of starting slow and having to work out an awkward style and Froch did that.

[Gandalf]

Johnson's post fight interview said it all really, he didn't even challenge the judges and admitted where he thought it might have got away. If he isn't complaining then nobody else should be, he knows he was outhustled by the younger guy. Johnson is a very solid pro, but just too old. The Green fight was a bit of smoke and mirrors as Green was never very good to begin with. Johnson's last fights at LHW told the story and this fight just reinforced it. It's a good time for Johnson to retire. A fair last stand.

[Hulk]

Johnson's post fight interview said it all really, he didn't even challenge the judges and admitted where he thought it might have got away. If he isn't complaining then nobody else should be, he knows he was outhustled by the younger guy. Johnson is a very solid pro, but just too old. The Green fight was a bit of smoke and mirrors as Green was never very good to begin with. Johnson's last fights at LHW told the story and this fight just reinforced it. It's a good time for Johnson to retire. A fair last stand.

Gotta disagree with you there pal.

DESTROYING Yusaf Mack and losing a razor think MD to the most fearsome power punching 175 lber on the planet were by no means bad performances.

Johnson is finally showing his age a bit at 42 years of age. He just barely lost tonight, if not fought to a draw against a younger man with not even half as many fights.

[Spicoli]

I had it 7-5 Froch. Slow start and strong finish. Johnson got away from his solid jab to head-body and was really all about chucking right hands in the second half and faded. Froch had answers. Mad respect to Johnson, again, but he cannot claim robbery on this one. Gus Johnson sounds like a snake oil salesman and company-network toad. I think Berstein and Tarver keep it straight.

[Hulk]

I had it 7-5 Froch. Slow start and strong finish. Johnson got away from his solid jab to head-body and was really all about chucking right hands in the second half and faded. Froch had answers. Mad respect to Johnson, again, but he cannot claim robbery on this one. Gus Johnson sounds like a snake oil salesman and company-network toad. I think Berstein and Tarver keep it straight.

Bernstein is my favorite boxing commentator, but lately he is misled by Tarver and basically goes along with whatever Tarver says and kisses his ass.

Tarver lets his old vendettas and rivalries get in the way of commentating, for example claiming that Andre Ward is already better than Roy Jones Jr. was at 168

[Spicoli]

I had it 7-5 Froch. Slow start and strong finish. Johnson got away from his solid jab to head-body and was really all about chucking right hands in the second half and faded. Froch had answers. Mad respect to Johnson, again, but he cannot claim robbery on this one. Gus Johnson sounds like a snake oil salesman and company-network toad. I think Berstein and Tarver keep it straight.

Bernstein is my favorite boxing commentator, but lately he is misled by Tarver and basically goes along with whatever Tarver says and kisses his ass.

Tarver lets his old vendettas and rivalries get in the way of commentating, for example claiming that Andre Ward is already better than Roy Jones Jr. was at 168

I think maybe Al's just being a professional. Or maybe he's just sick of hearing Gus Tarver may see something but he knows Ward is no Jones and or a Hopkins, any vendetta he had can lay with 2 wins over Roy.

[marbleheadmaui]

I watched it with the sound off and had Froch 7-5.
I just cannot tolerate Gus Johnson.

I had it even after eight rounds and then thought Johnson hit the fitness wall. MUCH more competitive than I thought it would be.

Froch fought a very intelligent fight.

[Dean Duke]

I watched it with the sound off and had Froch 7-5.
I just cannot tolerate Gus Johnson.

I had it even after eight rounds and then thought Johnson hit the fitness wall. MUCH more competitive than I thought it would be.

Froch fought a very intelligent fight.

Thats a fair summary had it the same on my card too.

[BIG H]

**Copy and paste from the rthread*

116-112 was probably right imo. Johnson was quite effective early on, but at the end of the day all he did was plod forward and throw the overhand right. You don't wins fights throwing single shots. As usually the commentators were giving rounds to Johnson, coz he landed 2 good shots when Froch won the other 2 minutes 50 seconds of thr rounds.

[GuyIncognito76]

I can understand why the Showtime commentators were against Johnson, they needed two fighters who started the tournament to make the final credible.

I thought Froch didn't push himself enough and did just enough to get by. Although Johnson came forward, and landed the harder shots he didn't come out of his peek-a-boo defense. I gave Froch the last two rounds which gave it to him by three.