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    Default Re: How did you score the Johnson vs. Froch fight ?

    I felt Johnson was severely discredited by the commentators (Showtime) and the commentating was an absolute disgrace. It infuriated me to no end that ALL FOUR commentators were against Johnson and heavily biased.

    Johnson did A TON of body work that he did not get credit for. And he hurt Froch with a couple of crisp right hands.

    Froch answered back with some flashy Sugar Ray Leonard slapping combos that would hit Johnson's gloves, though occasionally a left hook would connect on Johnson.

    This fight was very close much like Johnson vs. Cloud, with the big difference being Cloud HURT Johnson badly, where Froch never did.

    I had Johnson winning the 1-3, 6-8, and possibly the 11th, but Froch probably won the 11th.
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    Default Re: How did you score the Johnson vs. Froch fight ?

    I didn't see the Showtime broadcast, but on the whole I think Jim Watt was okay with the British broadcast. He gave Johnson his credit for starting better and was critical of Froch for being so hesitant and allowing Johnson to lead, but you can't just go on the commentary. I think he was a little too critical of Froch at times and so I had Froch winning by a little bit more. Johnson did do some good body work and landed an eye catching lead right every couple of rounds or so, but it just wasn't enough. Froch responded to every Johnson attack with his own combinations and after working Johnson out by the middle point took over more and more in the second half. It was a solid, but somewhat uninspired win. A case of starting slow and having to work out an awkward style and Froch did that.

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    Johnson's post fight interview said it all really, he didn't even challenge the judges and admitted where he thought it might have got away. If he isn't complaining then nobody else should be, he knows he was outhustled by the younger guy. Johnson is a very solid pro, but just too old. The Green fight was a bit of smoke and mirrors as Green was never very good to begin with. Johnson's last fights at LHW told the story and this fight just reinforced it. It's a good time for Johnson to retire. A fair last stand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Johnson's post fight interview said it all really, he didn't even challenge the judges and admitted where he thought it might have got away. If he isn't complaining then nobody else should be, he knows he was outhustled by the younger guy. Johnson is a very solid pro, but just too old. The Green fight was a bit of smoke and mirrors as Green was never very good to begin with. Johnson's last fights at LHW told the story and this fight just reinforced it. It's a good time for Johnson to retire. A fair last stand.

    Gotta disagree with you there pal.

    DESTROYING Yusaf Mack and losing a razor think MD to the most fearsome power punching 175 lber on the planet were by no means bad performances.

    Johnson is finally showing his age a bit at 42 years of age. He just barely lost tonight, if not fought to a draw against a younger man with not even half as many fights.
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    I had it 7-5 Froch. Slow start and strong finish. Johnson got away from his solid jab to head-body and was really all about chucking right hands in the second half and faded. Froch had answers. Mad respect to Johnson, again, but he cannot claim robbery on this one. Gus Johnson sounds like a snake oil salesman and company-network toad. I think Berstein and Tarver keep it straight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    I had it 7-5 Froch. Slow start and strong finish. Johnson got away from his solid jab to head-body and was really all about chucking right hands in the second half and faded. Froch had answers. Mad respect to Johnson, again, but he cannot claim robbery on this one. Gus Johnson sounds like a snake oil salesman and company-network toad. I think Berstein and Tarver keep it straight.
    Bernstein is my favorite boxing commentator, but lately he is misled by Tarver and basically goes along with whatever Tarver says and kisses his ass.

    Tarver lets his old vendettas and rivalries get in the way of commentating, for example claiming that Andre Ward is already better than Roy Jones Jr. was at 168
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    I had it 7-5 Froch. Slow start and strong finish. Johnson got away from his solid jab to head-body and was really all about chucking right hands in the second half and faded. Froch had answers. Mad respect to Johnson, again, but he cannot claim robbery on this one. Gus Johnson sounds like a snake oil salesman and company-network toad. I think Berstein and Tarver keep it straight.
    Bernstein is my favorite boxing commentator, but lately he is misled by Tarver and basically goes along with whatever Tarver says and kisses his ass.

    Tarver lets his old vendettas and rivalries get in the way of commentating, for example claiming that Andre Ward is already better than Roy Jones Jr. was at 168
    I think maybe Al's just being a professional. Or maybe he's just sick of hearing Gus Tarver may see something but he knows Ward is no Jones and or a Hopkins, any vendetta he had can lay with 2 wins over Roy.

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    Default Re: How did you score the Johnson vs. Froch fight ?

    I watched it with the sound off and had Froch 7-5.
    I just cannot tolerate Gus Johnson.

    I had it even after eight rounds and then thought Johnson hit the fitness wall. MUCH more competitive than I thought it would be.

    Froch fought a very intelligent fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    I had it 7-5 Froch. Slow start and strong finish. Johnson got away from his solid jab to head-body and was really all about chucking right hands in the second half and faded. Froch had answers. Mad respect to Johnson, again, but he cannot claim robbery on this one. Gus Johnson sounds like a snake oil salesman and company-network toad. I think Berstein and Tarver keep it straight.
    Bernstein is my favorite boxing commentator, but lately he is misled by Tarver and basically goes along with whatever Tarver says and kisses his ass.

    Tarver lets his old vendettas and rivalries get in the way of commentating, for example claiming that Andre Ward is already better than Roy Jones Jr. was at 168
    In what way did Tarver suggest Ward was better than Jones Jnr? If he was suggesting that Ward was technically more accomplished and seasoned in comparison to Roy then he'd be making a fair point, vendetta or no vendetta. Tarver's aite man, i'm sure he has nothing against Johnson either...
    Last edited by Jimanuel Boogustus; 06-05-2011 at 07:33 PM.

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    Default Re: How did you score the Johnson vs. Froch fight ?

    Froch was busier, Johnson did not throw enough. No way did Johnson do enough to win.
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    Default Re: How did you score the Johnson vs. Froch fight ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    I had it 7-5 Froch. Slow start and strong finish. Johnson got away from his solid jab to head-body and was really all about chucking right hands in the second half and faded. Froch had answers. Mad respect to Johnson, again, but he cannot claim robbery on this one. Gus Johnson sounds like a snake oil salesman and company-network toad. I think Berstein and Tarver keep it straight.
    Bernstein is my favorite boxing commentator, but lately he is misled by Tarver and basically goes along with whatever Tarver says and kisses his ass.

    Tarver lets his old vendettas and rivalries get in the way of commentating, for example claiming that Andre Ward is already better than Roy Jones Jr. was at 168
    In what way did Tarver suggest Ward was better than Jones Jnr? If he was suggesting that Ward was technically more accomplished and seasoned in comparison to Roy then he'd be making a fair point, vendetta or no vendetta. Tarver's aite man, i'm sure he has nothing against Johnson either...
    Not in last nights fight, but I believe it was in the Ward vs. Sakio Bika fight, Tarver literally said that Andre Ward was already better than Roy Jones was at 168 and Bernstein agreed.

    It was lunacy.

    Tarver is alright, but he is one of those guys who remembers himself as being a lot better than he really was, and holds on to grudges. Particularly against Roy Jones.
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    Default Re: How did you score the Johnson vs. Froch fight ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk View Post
    I felt Johnson was severely discredited by the commentators (Showtime) and the commentating was an absolute disgrace. It infuriated me to no end that ALL FOUR commentators were against Johnson and heavily biased.

    Johnson did A TON of body work that he did not get credit for. And he hurt Froch with a couple of crisp right hands.

    Froch answered back with some flashy Sugar Ray Leonard slapping combos that would hit Johnson's gloves, though occasionally a left hook would connect on Johnson.

    This fight was very close much like Johnson vs. Cloud, with the big difference being Cloud HURT Johnson badly, where Froch never did.

    I had Johnson winning the 1-3, 6-8, and possibly the 11th, but Froch probably won the 11th.
    some of the combos were slapping. But they all weren't. Froch put something on his shots when he needed to. He back Glen up alot more in the 2nd half of the fight than the first half of the fight.

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