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    Default Re: Mayweather announces ring return against Ortiz on Sept. 17

    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    So The gutless cherry picker may grace the boxing world with another boring PPV, yippeee, I can't wait not to watch it.

    Are you talking about mayweather or pacquiao here?

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    Default Re: Mayweather announces ring return against Ortiz on Sept. 17

    Quote Originally Posted by No Contest View Post
    Reading some of you guys posts gives me a headache...doesn't matter what Floyd does your going to find a way to talk shit. Same guys giving Oriz props after the great fight with berto now think he's a gimme fight. It's like floyd says he cant win the fans over no matter what he does.
    It's been said. This is the best available fight for Floyd at or below 147. That is not the same thing as saying that it will be competitive or that it will be challenging for Floyd. Ortiz has little to no chance. Just ask Vegas: they have Floyd a 9-1 (best odds) favorite.

    I for one gave Ortiz a lot of props after the fight against Berto. It doesn't mean that Ortiz is great or that we completely forget that Lamont Peterson outboxed him and it doesn't make Ortiz a great fight for Mayweather. However, it also doesn't mean that he wasn't the best available opponent.

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    i like this fight. i think its gonna end up like gatti vs mayweather. except, ortiz doesn't have gatti's chin or heart. so that means we'll get a quick brutal early KO...and we won't have to watch ortiz get his ass beat around the ring for 6 rounds like we did gatti. that made me sick.
    You're joking right? Ortiz doesnt need Gatti's heart because he's light years better than him in just about every other area. His chin is sturdy enough and he's shown some cojones in his last fight. He's nearing his prime and with his southpaw style, he's going to put up a fight unlike Gatti who gave Floyd nothing to think about. There wont be any early KO, I know that much.

    This is a real fight.
    No recent Floyd fight has ended in an early KO so that won't happen. But, Ortiz will lose every single round and quit at around round 10. How will Victor trouble Floyd at all? I don't get it. What happens when Victor is discouraged after round 4 because he can't hit Floyd?

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    Default Re: Mayweather announces ring return against Ortiz on Sept. 17

    Sounds like someone needs to get the IRS off his back.

    I am a huge fan of Floyd's skill set, but I hate that he skips out on the game so much. I mean it's his life and can do what he wants, I just wish his had more hunger to get in the ring and take on all comers like he did at the lighter weights.

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    Default Re: Mayweather announces ring return against Ortiz on Sept. 17

    Quote Originally Posted by boxingbantz View Post
    Well, I for one and pleased he is back in the ring - and announcing it the day I posted on here how much I missed him.

    Love him or hate him, the boxing world is a better place with him in it.

    I don't get all the hate for this fight, though. He is fighting the best available opponent, is fighting a big hitting southpaw who nearly always drops his opponents yet people are STILL moaning. After this announcement, I am more confident than ever that the fight we all want to see will happen in May 2012. The fact he has chosen to fight a southpaw who likes to come forward gives me that idea.

    I'm 99% sure Sky Sports will be showing it live as well so really looking forward to this fight. As someone else mentioned on here, funny how Floyd is criticized for taking this fight and yet people are alright with some of Pacquiao's recent opponents.
    I don't always like Pacquiao's choices of opponents, but since Mayweather has ducked him for the last 3 + years, who exactly is he suppose to fight that he hasn't?

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    Default Re: Mayweather announces ring return against Ortiz on Sept. 17

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    Seeing as Victor Ortiz is the champion, I expect Floyd Mayweather to enter the ring first...
    Hahaha. oh wow that will be wired! I wonder....
    I'd bet everything I own that Floyd has made it one of his demands for the fight. No way does he come into the ring first after nearly a year and a half out. I'm sure Ortiz will be ok with it, though. He will be happy just to share a ring with Floyd.
    Oh man, thats worse than catchweights imo, the champion should come out last. Ortiz better keep his mentality in check and walk like a champ.
    Or Ortiz could imitate what Hatton did during the Paquiao vs Hatton. He let Pacquiao come out last as a recognition of Pacquiao being the P4P king, even though he (Hatton) was the belt holder. In this case Ortiz may have Mayweather come out last because Mayweather is an "older fighter". But I guess Mayweather will demand the same respect insisting he is still the P4P king.

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    Default Re: Mayweather announces ring return against Ortiz on Sept. 17

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    So The gutless cherry picker may grace the boxing world with another boring PPV, yippeee, I can't wait not to watch it.

    Are you talking about mayweather or pacquiao here?
    Take a look at the subject line in the OP and take a wild fucking guess.

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    Default Re: Mayweather announces ring return against Ortiz on Sept. 17

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    So The gutless cherry picker may grace the boxing world with another boring PPV, yippeee, I can't wait not to watch it.

    Are you talking about mayweather or pacquiao here?
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    Default Re: Mayweather announces ring return against Ortiz on Sept. 17

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus View Post
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    Seeing as Victor Ortiz is the champion, I expect Floyd Mayweather to enter the ring first...
    Hahaha. oh wow that will be wired! I wonder....
    I'd bet everything I own that Floyd has made it one of his demands for the fight. No way does he come into the ring first after nearly a year and a half out. I'm sure Ortiz will be ok with it, though. He will be happy just to share a ring with Floyd.
    Oh man, thats worse than catchweights imo, the champion should come out last. Ortiz better keep his mentality in check and walk like a champ.





    To early for my brain to work properly but it just happened not to long ago...... where the champ came out first... it was obviously a demand by the challenger with the bigger name.... uh....

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    Default Re: Mayweather announces ring return against Ortiz on Sept. 17

    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post
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    Just read the ESPN article about this and, yes, Victor Ortiz has agreed to random blood tests. I guess he has NOTHING to hide .
    Yep he knows he's clean. What kind of fighter would turn down a big purse because of a harmless drug test.

    Someone is suspect.
    Makes me wonder the same thing specially after someone agrees to all your terms and conditions and only asks you to comply with just one: random blood tests. Add to that all the silly contradicting excuses Manny has come up with as well as his trainers and Bob Arum.

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    Default Re: Mayweather announces ring return against Ortiz on Sept. 17

    Quote Originally Posted by boxingbantz View Post
    Allegedly, Floyd has been guaranteed $40m for this fight.

    Wow.
    Why would a promoter give a $40 Million Guarantee to Floyd for Ortiz when he got $22.5 for Mosley. Mosley was a mar-key name, while Ortiz is only breaking into the PPV scene. Golden Boy wouldn't match $5 Million for Marquez, they sure as hell wouldn't put up a purse more than $30 Million on Ortiz vs Mayweather. If Mayweather were to put up his own money to promote the fight, Assuming he get a $20 Million site fee and a $20 Million Guarantee, I could believe a gross $40 Million Guarantee. But first, I doubt he would put up the money, second I don't believe Vegas would pay $20 Million for the fight. $10-$15 Million Yea possibly. For that kind of money they need 750K guaranteed PPV sales to break even. The decision maker would need to be confident of 1 million ppv sales to buy into it. Ortiz just doesn't have a big enough name to make that happen.

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    Default Re: Mayweather announces ring return against Ortiz on Sept. 17

    This is a good fight before Floyd fights Pac Man as Floyd has been inactive and needs to some rounds, it re-creates hype for the Manny fight, Ortiz is a southpaw, young and very hungry which is the type of opponent Pac Man has recently avoided. Floyd could do no better at welter than choose this opponent, the best available challenger. I hope Ortiz pulls out a victory which is doubtful but having seen the guy on ESPN he sounded a good guy who will give his all in this fight.
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    Default Re: Mayweather announces ring return against Ortiz on Sept. 17

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus View Post
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    Seeing as Victor Ortiz is the champion, I expect Floyd Mayweather to enter the ring first...
    Hahaha. oh wow that will be wired! I wonder....
    I'd bet everything I own that Floyd has made it one of his demands for the fight. No way does he come into the ring first after nearly a year and a half out. I'm sure Ortiz will be ok with it, though. He will be happy just to share a ring with Floyd.
    Oh man, thats worse than catchweights imo, the champion should come out last. Ortiz better keep his mentality in check and walk like a champ.
    On the other hand, Mayweather is the lineal champ at the weight while Ortiz just owns an alphabet strap. I don't care about an alphabet holder coming out 2nd, but I've no time for THE MAN of the division being treated as the challenger in the way Martinez was against Williams.

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    Default Re: Mayweather announces ring return against Ortiz on Sept. 17

    i for one am excited for this fight, especially after what ortiz did to berto, sure i would rather see maywaether-pacqiou but who the fuck wouldn't...truth is, bob arum is a scumbag and he can careless about pacqiou, he wants to milk pacqiou for everything he is worth and make his final payday of packman against mayawether, because truthfully it'll be an epic fight, but pcaqiou just does not have the tools, nor does ortiz, but both are good fights that i will enjoy watching, its ll politics folks, don't get caught up, may and pac will fight, and today either fighter is scared is just plain fucking stupid, they are both all time greats,don't get scared like some of u pussies

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    Default Re: Mayweather announces ring return against Ortiz on Sept. 17

    Quote Originally Posted by Boxer4life View Post
    i for one am excited for this fight, especially after what ortiz did to berto, sure i would rather see maywaether-pacqiou but who the fuck wouldn't...truth is, bob arum is a scumbag and he can careless about pacqiou, he wants to milk pacqiou for everything he is worth and make his final payday of packman against mayawether, because truthfully it'll be an epic fight, but pcaqiou just does not have the tools, nor does ortiz, but both are good fights that i will enjoy watching, its ll politics folks, don't get caught up, may and pac will fight, and today either fighter is scared is just plain fucking stupid, they are both all time greats,don't get scared like some of u pussies
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