Mayweather announces ring return against Ortiz on Sept. 17

[Althugz]

Man, this thread reminded me why I don't post here anymore...Found out this fight was happening from my friend on the weekend and thought I'd come here and take a look at everyone's reaction..

LOL same old double standards flying around here I see

"Floyd is a pussy, taking on Ortiz too scared to fight Pacman..blah blah" - erm, Floyd fights a live Welterweight champ (after dismantling the lineal Welterweight champ who the same people said Floyd was SCARED of before he signed to fight him..and then the same peeps said afterwards that he was "washed up" anyway...the same people who belittle Floyd's Welterweight credentials when his welterweight fights will have included 3 welterweight champs and a lineal welterweight champ.) But apparently, the fight is still not good enough?

It's like someone said - He can't win the fans over no matter what he does.
Then somebody responded with "He can do one thing to win over the fans"..well my response to that is that he already did do the thing that most people said would "win them over and make them respect Floyd", which was fight Mosley when everyone was accusing him of being scared.

He wins in easy fashion and of course, Mosley was old.."Oh Mayweather's gay until he fights Pac now.."

I sometimes wonder whether these posters ever listen to themselves..

I even remember reading a post once where Daxx said, "Floyd is gonna get steam-rolled by Baldomir..This is too big a step" - LOL But of course Floyd boxes rings around the guy and Baldomir instantly becomes the joke of the Welterweight division.

And the guy who said "Floyd fights every 18 months, just enough time for everyone to forget the last stinker he had"...

Wow...Floyd's last 3 fights - Mosley, Marquez and Hatton..If you enjoyed those offensive boxing masterclasses less than you enjoyed Pac vs Mosley, Clottey and Margarito then you have a few screws loose.

Even when there is proof when Freddie Roach in a video said they ducked Mosley before Mayweather took the fight..people turn a blind eye. Hilarious..they wanted Mosley at 142, but Floyd's the pussy of course.

This has turned into the forum for the mentally insane...Apologies to the consistent posters, you know who you are - Miles, JT Rock, Mar etc although this double standards doesn't seem to exist around other boxers - It's just when the topic of these 2 fighters comes up, some posters make it unbearable!

This is what it is - Floyd taking on the best possible, available opponent besides Pac and Martinez. Pac is next..

[josef4334]

Well, I for one and pleased he is back in the ring - and announcing it the day I posted on here how much I missed him.

Love him or hate him, the boxing world is a better place with him in it.

I don't get all the hate for this fight, though. He is fighting the best available opponent, is fighting a big hitting southpaw who nearly always drops his opponents yet people are STILL moaning. After this announcement, I am more confident than ever that the fight we all want to see will happen in May 2012. The fact he has chosen to fight a southpaw who likes to come forward gives me that idea.

I'm 99% sure Sky Sports will be showing it live as well so really looking forward to this fight. As someone else mentioned on here, funny how Floyd is criticized for taking this fight and yet people are alright with some of Pacquiao's recent opponents.

I don't always like Pacquiao's choices of opponents, but since Mayweather has ducked him for the last 3 + years, who exactly is he suppose to fight that he hasn't?

exactly. but you know his haters want him to fight martinez. if he fought berto instead of mosley and blew him out they will say berto is green. if he fought ortiz and blew him out they will call ortiz quitter. and when roger mayweather said pac took steroids everyone of floyd groupies bow down and agree with him. im not racist and i have plenty of african-american friends, but i have to ask this, why is it when black fighters lose or in jeopardy of losing a fight always say that their opponents are taking steroids ie. andre berto on ortiz "he was on something and its not flintstones", or jean pascal on bernard hopkins, and floyd and co. on manny pacquiao? that "a-side meth" crap is hilarious and still people buy their story. if that so call a-side meth is true then we(filipinos) would have invaded every damn country there is because we were supposed to be bullet proof. instead it took us 300 years to get rid of the spaniards and we were under japanese and american rule for a while.

Why is it that Filipinos don't want Pac to get his blood randomly tested? Do they know there is a risk to be caught with something? Heck, I would expect Pac fans to have a different attitude like "Hell yeah! We'll have our guy tested to prove he's ready to fight whenever and then kick your guy's ass in the ring. So come on! Let's get tested and lets get ready to rumble" instead, all we hear are excuses on why he shouldn't take the tests: he's afraid of needles, blood makes him nervous, a nurse might poke his arm in the wrong way and hurt him, he can't train properly for more than a week, etc.

have you ever donated blood? or have it taken every week? have somebody draw a small tube of blood from you and then you run up a hill and we will see how you feel. i dont really agree with his excuses but to the notion that if he's innocent then why doesnt he get tested, then the rule should be "guilty until proven innocent" and not the other way around. would you let a cop arrest you because he has suspicions that you took drugs?

[Althugz]

Well, I for one and pleased he is back in the ring - and announcing it the day I posted on here how much I missed him.

Love him or hate him, the boxing world is a better place with him in it.

I don't get all the hate for this fight, though. He is fighting the best available opponent, is fighting a big hitting southpaw who nearly always drops his opponents yet people are STILL moaning. After this announcement, I am more confident than ever that the fight we all want to see will happen in May 2012. The fact he has chosen to fight a southpaw who likes to come forward gives me that idea.

I'm 99% sure Sky Sports will be showing it live as well so really looking forward to this fight. As someone else mentioned on here, funny how Floyd is criticized for taking this fight and yet people are alright with some of Pacquiao's recent opponents.

I don't always like Pacquiao's choices of opponents, but since Mayweather has ducked him for the last 3 + years, who exactly is he suppose to fight that he hasn't?

exactly. but you know his haters want him to fight martinez. if he fought berto instead of mosley and blew him out they will say berto is green. if he fought ortiz and blew him out they will call ortiz quitter. and when roger mayweather said pac took steroids everyone of floyd groupies bow down and agree with him. im not racist and i have plenty of african-american friends, but i have to ask this, why is it when black fighters lose or in jeopardy of losing a fight always say that their opponents are taking steroids ie. andre berto on ortiz "he was on something and its not flintstones", or jean pascal on bernard hopkins, and floyd and co. on manny pacquiao? that "a-side meth" crap is hilarious and still people buy their story. if that so call a-side meth is true then we(filipinos) would have invaded every damn country there is because we were supposed to be bullet proof. instead it took us 300 years to get rid of the spaniards and we were under japanese and american rule for a while.

Why is it that Filipinos don't want Pac to get his blood randomly tested? Do they know there is a risk to be caught with something? Heck, I would expect Pac fans to have a different attitude like "Hell yeah! We'll have our guy tested to prove he's ready to fight whenever and then kick your guy's ass in the ring. So come on! Let's get tested and lets get ready to rumble" instead, all we hear are excuses on why he shouldn't take the tests: he's afraid of needles, blood makes him nervous, a nurse might poke his arm in the wrong way and hurt him, he can't train properly for more than a week, etc.

have you ever donated blood? or have it taken every week? have somebody draw a small tube of blood from you and then you run up a hill and we will see how you feel. i dont really agree with his excuses but to the notion that if he's innocent then why doesnt he get tested, then the rule should be "guilty until proven innocent" and not the other way around. would you let a cop arrest you because he has suspicions that you took drugs?

Bullshit - Everytime I've had blood taken, I've asked the nurse if I can go to the gym afterwards and every different nurse has said IT'S ABSOLUTELY FINE - I hit the gym an hour later and I'm absolutely fine! It's a non-excuse.

[Chino]

have you ever donated blood? or have it taken every week? have somebody draw a small tube of blood from you and then you run up a hill and we will see how you feel

A blood test Floyd is willing to take as well. See, for these kind of things all of a sudden Pac is too small for something like this (random blood tests) while for others he’s just perfectly fine and ready for the challenge. Both men would go through the random blood tests, not just Manny, so it’s all fair.

i dont really agree with his excuses

Fair enough. First time I hear a Pac fan admit that. But listen to all their excuses, it definitely makes you wonder what’s going on.

would you let a cop arrest you because he has suspicions that you took drugs?

I would let him check me before I am declared guilty. It’s like me refusing to blow on the alcohol tester telling the cop “Look ociffer, I am..eeerrr…totally sober. Don’t put that thing near me, it makes me nervous and I am afraid of those testers…I’m telling ya’ I am not drunk”.
I remember travelling in the USA right after the 911 attacks. I was sporting facial hair and somehow looked middle eastern. The police stopped me and asked if they could do a random check as I fitted the description of the people they were looking for. I accepted with no problem whatsoever. Why? Hey, if this was going to stop someone from breaking the law then go for it! Besides, don’t we all want safe airports? It would do everybody good so I let them question me and make sure I was not going to do something bad. Check didn’t take more than 5 minutes.

Everybody wins with random blood tests. You wouldn't want a juiced up guy to give Manny a beating, would you?

[Chino]

Well, I for one and pleased he is back in the ring - and announcing it the day I posted on here how much I missed him.

Love him or hate him, the boxing world is a better place with him in it.

I don't get all the hate for this fight, though. He is fighting the best available opponent, is fighting a big hitting southpaw who nearly always drops his opponents yet people are STILL moaning. After this announcement, I am more confident than ever that the fight we all want to see will happen in May 2012. The fact he has chosen to fight a southpaw who likes to come forward gives me that idea.

I'm 99% sure Sky Sports will be showing it live as well so really looking forward to this fight. As someone else mentioned on here, funny how Floyd is criticized for taking this fight and yet people are alright with some of Pacquiao's recent opponents.

I don't always like Pacquiao's choices of opponents, but since Mayweather has ducked him for the last 3 + years, who exactly is he suppose to fight that he hasn't?

exactly. but you know his haters want him to fight martinez. if he fought berto instead of mosley and blew him out they will say berto is green. if he fought ortiz and blew him out they will call ortiz quitter. and when roger mayweather said pac took steroids everyone of floyd groupies bow down and agree with him. im not racist and i have plenty of african-american friends, but i have to ask this, why is it when black fighters lose or in jeopardy of losing a fight always say that their opponents are taking steroids ie. andre berto on ortiz "he was on something and its not flintstones", or jean pascal on bernard hopkins, and floyd and co. on manny pacquiao? that "a-side meth" crap is hilarious and still people buy their story. if that so call a-side meth is true then we(filipinos) would have invaded every damn country there is because we were supposed to be bullet proof. instead it took us 300 years to get rid of the spaniards and we were under japanese and american rule for a while.

Why is it that Filipinos don't want Pac to get his blood randomly tested? Do they know there is a risk to be caught with something? Heck, I would expect Pac fans to have a different attitude like "Hell yeah! We'll have our guy tested to prove he's ready to fight whenever and then kick your guy's ass in the ring. So come on! Let's get tested and lets get ready to rumble" instead, all we hear are excuses on why he shouldn't take the tests: he's afraid of needles, blood makes him nervous, a nurse might poke his arm in the wrong way and hurt him, he can't train properly for more than a week, etc.

have you ever donated blood? or have it taken every week? have somebody draw a small tube of blood from you and then you run up a hill and we will see how you feel. i dont really agree with his excuses but to the notion that if he's innocent then why doesnt he get tested, then the rule should be "guilty until proven innocent" and not the other way around. would you let a cop arrest you because he has suspicions that you took drugs?

Bullshit - Everytime I've had blood taken, I've asked the nurse if I can go to the gym afterwards and every different nurse has said IT'S ABSOLUTELY FINE - I hit the gym an hour later and I'm absolutely fine! It's a non-excuse.

There is an interview from Freddy Roach where he says he's not letting Manny take random blood tests and demands 14 days of no blood tests because Manny would be too weak to train and so on. On another video Manny can be seen in the gym sparring and lifting weights like an animal A DAY AFTER he had blood drawn. It's all on video. Manny, Roach, and Arum should sit down and plan how to come up with excuses instead of contradicting each other all the time.

[foxbat1126]

Well, I for one and pleased he is back in the ring - and announcing it the day I posted on here how much I missed him.

Love him or hate him, the boxing world is a better place with him in it.

I don't get all the hate for this fight, though. He is fighting the best available opponent, is fighting a big hitting southpaw who nearly always drops his opponents yet people are STILL moaning. After this announcement, I am more confident than ever that the fight we all want to see will happen in May 2012. The fact he has chosen to fight a southpaw who likes to come forward gives me that idea.

I'm 99% sure Sky Sports will be showing it live as well so really looking forward to this fight. As someone else mentioned on here, funny how Floyd is criticized for taking this fight and yet people are alright with some of Pacquiao's recent opponents.

I don't always like Pacquiao's choices of opponents, but since Mayweather has ducked him for the last 3 + years, who exactly is he suppose to fight that he hasn't?

exactly. but you know his haters want him to fight martinez. if he fought berto instead of mosley and blew him out they will say berto is green. if he fought ortiz and blew him out they will call ortiz quitter. and when roger mayweather said pac took steroids everyone of floyd groupies bow down and agree with him. im not racist and i have plenty of african-american friends, but i have to ask this, why is it when black fighters lose or in jeopardy of losing a fight always say that their opponents are taking steroids ie. andre berto on ortiz "he was on something and its not flintstones", or jean pascal on bernard hopkins, and floyd and co. on manny pacquiao? that "a-side meth" crap is hilarious and still people buy their story. if that so call a-side meth is true then we(filipinos) would have invaded every damn country there is because we were supposed to be bullet proof. instead it took us 300 years to get rid of the spaniards and we were under japanese and american rule for a while.

Why is it that Filipinos don't want Pac to get his blood randomly tested? Do they know there is a risk to be caught with something? Heck, I would expect Pac fans to have a different attitude like "Hell yeah! We'll have our guy tested to prove he's ready to fight whenever and then kick your guy's ass in the ring. So come on! Let's get tested and lets get ready to rumble" instead, all we hear are excuses on why he shouldn't take the tests: he's afraid of needles, blood makes him nervous, a nurse might poke his arm in the wrong way and hurt him, he can't train properly for more than a week, etc.

have you ever donated blood? or have it taken every week? have somebody draw a small tube of blood from you and then you run up a hill and we will see how you feel. i dont really agree with his excuses but to the notion that if he's innocent then why doesnt he get tested, then the rule should be "guilty until proven innocent" and not the other way around. would you let a cop arrest you because he has suspicions that you took drugs?

Bullshit - Everytime I've had blood taken, I've asked the nurse if I can go to the gym afterwards and every different nurse has said IT'S ABSOLUTELY FINE - I hit the gym an hour later and I'm absolutely fine! It's a non-excuse.

There is an interview from Freddy Roach where he says he's not letting Manny take random blood tests and demands 14 days of no blood tests because Manny would be too weak to train and so on. On another video Manny can be seen in the gym sparring and lifting weights like an animal A DAY AFTER he had blood drawn. It's all on video. Manny, Roach, and Arum should sit down and plan how to come up with excuses instead of contradicting each other all the time.

Manny Pacquiao has already agreed to Blood Tests at anytime even during the fight before the 6th round if Mayweather is willing to fight. This was stated in an interview on November 12, 2010 before the Margareto fight.

Quote:

Beats, Boxing & Mayhem: Now, you’re willing to compromise on the blood testing. You weren’t as flexible earlier this year and walked away to take another fight. Do you regret not compromising during the first negotiations and fighting Joshua Clottey?

Pacquiao: [Pauses] Um, no. I feel like I don’t need Mayweather to make my career. I fought the best and anyone willing to face me. I want it, and feel the fans deserve the [Mayweather] fight. I want to prove to everyone that it wasn’t me who didn’t want the fight. That’s why I made the concession to take anything [blood tests] he wants at any time. Even during the fight before the sixth round if he wanted! What [else] can I do? I hope we get the fight done soon. Let’s get it on.

Link: Manny Pacquiao: Politics As Usual � Beats, Boxing and Mayhem

[glennwilson5]

I believe Ortiz gives him more trouble than people think, but Mayweather still wins a decision.

[Chino]

Well, I for one and pleased he is back in the ring - and announcing it the day I posted on here how much I missed him.

Love him or hate him, the boxing world is a better place with him in it.

I don't get all the hate for this fight, though. He is fighting the best available opponent, is fighting a big hitting southpaw who nearly always drops his opponents yet people are STILL moaning. After this announcement, I am more confident than ever that the fight we all want to see will happen in May 2012. The fact he has chosen to fight a southpaw who likes to come forward gives me that idea.

I'm 99% sure Sky Sports will be showing it live as well so really looking forward to this fight. As someone else mentioned on here, funny how Floyd is criticized for taking this fight and yet people are alright with some of Pacquiao's recent opponents.

I don't always like Pacquiao's choices of opponents, but since Mayweather has ducked him for the last 3 + years, who exactly is he suppose to fight that he hasn't?

exactly. but you know his haters want him to fight martinez. if he fought berto instead of mosley and blew him out they will say berto is green. if he fought ortiz and blew him out they will call ortiz quitter. and when roger mayweather said pac took steroids everyone of floyd groupies bow down and agree with him. im not racist and i have plenty of african-american friends, but i have to ask this, why is it when black fighters lose or in jeopardy of losing a fight always say that their opponents are taking steroids ie. andre berto on ortiz "he was on something and its not flintstones", or jean pascal on bernard hopkins, and floyd and co. on manny pacquiao? that "a-side meth" crap is hilarious and still people buy their story. if that so call a-side meth is true then we(filipinos) would have invaded every damn country there is because we were supposed to be bullet proof. instead it took us 300 years to get rid of the spaniards and we were under japanese and american rule for a while.

Why is it that Filipinos don't want Pac to get his blood randomly tested? Do they know there is a risk to be caught with something? Heck, I would expect Pac fans to have a different attitude like "Hell yeah! We'll have our guy tested to prove he's ready to fight whenever and then kick your guy's ass in the ring. So come on! Let's get tested and lets get ready to rumble" instead, all we hear are excuses on why he shouldn't take the tests: he's afraid of needles, blood makes him nervous, a nurse might poke his arm in the wrong way and hurt him, he can't train properly for more than a week, etc.

have you ever donated blood? or have it taken every week? have somebody draw a small tube of blood from you and then you run up a hill and we will see how you feel. i dont really agree with his excuses but to the notion that if he's innocent then why doesnt he get tested, then the rule should be "guilty until proven innocent" and not the other way around. would you let a cop arrest you because he has suspicions that you took drugs?

Bullshit - Everytime I've had blood taken, I've asked the nurse if I can go to the gym afterwards and every different nurse has said IT'S ABSOLUTELY FINE - I hit the gym an hour later and I'm absolutely fine! It's a non-excuse.

There is an interview from Freddy Roach where he says he's not letting Manny take random blood tests and demands 14 days of no blood tests because Manny would be too weak to train and so on. On another video Manny can be seen in the gym sparring and lifting weights like an animal A DAY AFTER he had blood drawn. It's all on video. Manny, Roach, and Arum should sit down and plan how to come up with excuses instead of contradicting each other all the time.

Manny Pacquiao has already agreed to Blood Tests at anytime even during the fight before the 6th round if Mayweather is willing to fight. This was stated in an interview on November 12, 2010 before the Margareto fight.

Quote:

Beats, Boxing & Mayhem: Now, you’re willing to compromise on the blood testing. You weren’t as flexible earlier this year and walked away to take another fight. Do you regret not compromising during the first negotiations and fighting Joshua Clottey?

Pacquiao: [Pauses] Um, no. I feel like I don’t need Mayweather to make my career. I fought the best and anyone willing to face me. I want it, and feel the fans deserve the [Mayweather] fight. I want to prove to everyone that it wasn’t me who didn’t want the fight. That’s why I made the concession to take anything [blood tests] he wants at any time. Even during the fight before the sixth round if he wanted! What [else] can I do? I hope we get the fight done soon. Let’s get it on.

Link: Manny Pacquiao: Politics As Usual � Beats, Boxing and Mayhem

Pac says one thing and then comes up with something else. See, Freddy Roach says Pacquiao almost dies when it comes to taking blood tests and needs all this time to recuperate and now he can take it in the middle of the fight? Why take it after or during the fight when someone can juice up to train? They have asked for 14 days of no blood tests. That takes away the whole "random" in it. Why can Floyd and his past opponents take it randomly without complaining about it? Why all the contradicting excuses from him, his camp, and Bob Arum?

I also wish the fight was done! If someone can beat Floyd, it's Pac. If someone can beat Pac again its Floyd. It's no walk in the park for neither.

[foxbat1126]

Well, I for one and pleased he is back in the ring - and announcing it the day I posted on here how much I missed him.

Love him or hate him, the boxing world is a better place with him in it.

I don't get all the hate for this fight, though. He is fighting the best available opponent, is fighting a big hitting southpaw who nearly always drops his opponents yet people are STILL moaning. After this announcement, I am more confident than ever that the fight we all want to see will happen in May 2012. The fact he has chosen to fight a southpaw who likes to come forward gives me that idea.

I'm 99% sure Sky Sports will be showing it live as well so really looking forward to this fight. As someone else mentioned on here, funny how Floyd is criticized for taking this fight and yet people are alright with some of Pacquiao's recent opponents.

I don't always like Pacquiao's choices of opponents, but since Mayweather has ducked him for the last 3 + years, who exactly is he suppose to fight that he hasn't?

exactly. but you know his haters want him to fight martinez. if he fought berto instead of mosley and blew him out they will say berto is green. if he fought ortiz and blew him out they will call ortiz quitter. and when roger mayweather said pac took steroids everyone of floyd groupies bow down and agree with him. im not racist and i have plenty of african-american friends, but i have to ask this, why is it when black fighters lose or in jeopardy of losing a fight always say that their opponents are taking steroids ie. andre berto on ortiz "he was on something and its not flintstones", or jean pascal on bernard hopkins, and floyd and co. on manny pacquiao? that "a-side meth" crap is hilarious and still people buy their story. if that so call a-side meth is true then we(filipinos) would have invaded every damn country there is because we were supposed to be bullet proof. instead it took us 300 years to get rid of the spaniards and we were under japanese and american rule for a while.

Why is it that Filipinos don't want Pac to get his blood randomly tested? Do they know there is a risk to be caught with something? Heck, I would expect Pac fans to have a different attitude like "Hell yeah! We'll have our guy tested to prove he's ready to fight whenever and then kick your guy's ass in the ring. So come on! Let's get tested and lets get ready to rumble" instead, all we hear are excuses on why he shouldn't take the tests: he's afraid of needles, blood makes him nervous, a nurse might poke his arm in the wrong way and hurt him, he can't train properly for more than a week, etc.

have you ever donated blood? or have it taken every week? have somebody draw a small tube of blood from you and then you run up a hill and we will see how you feel. i dont really agree with his excuses but to the notion that if he's innocent then why doesnt he get tested, then the rule should be "guilty until proven innocent" and not the other way around. would you let a cop arrest you because he has suspicions that you took drugs?

Bullshit - Everytime I've had blood taken, I've asked the nurse if I can go to the gym afterwards and every different nurse has said IT'S ABSOLUTELY FINE - I hit the gym an hour later and I'm absolutely fine! It's a non-excuse.

There is an interview from Freddy Roach where he says he's not letting Manny take random blood tests and demands 14 days of no blood tests because Manny would be too weak to train and so on. On another video Manny can be seen in the gym sparring and lifting weights like an animal A DAY AFTER he had blood drawn. It's all on video. Manny, Roach, and Arum should sit down and plan how to come up with excuses instead of contradicting each other all the time.

Manny Pacquiao has already agreed to Blood Tests at anytime even during the fight before the 6th round if Mayweather is willing to fight. This was stated in an interview on November 12, 2010 before the Margareto fight.

Quote:

Beats, Boxing & Mayhem: Now, you’re willing to compromise on the blood testing. You weren’t as flexible earlier this year and walked away to take another fight. Do you regret not compromising during the first negotiations and fighting Joshua Clottey?

Pacquiao: [Pauses] Um, no. I feel like I don’t need Mayweather to make my career. I fought the best and anyone willing to face me. I want it, and feel the fans deserve the [Mayweather] fight. I want to prove to everyone that it wasn’t me who didn’t want the fight. That’s why I made the concession to take anything [blood tests] he wants at any time. Even during the fight before the sixth round if he wanted! What [else] can I do? I hope we get the fight done soon. Let’s get it on.

Link: Manny Pacquiao: Politics As Usual � Beats, Boxing and Mayhem

Pac says one thing and then comes up with something else. See, Freddy Roach says Pacquiao almost dies when it comes to taking blood tests and needs all this time to recuperate and now he can take it in the middle of the fight? Why take it after or during the fight when someone can juice up to train? They have asked for 14 days of no blood tests. That takes away the whole "random" in it. Why can Floyd and his past opponents take it randomly without complaining about it? Why all the contradicting excuses from him, his camp, and Bob Arum?

I also wish the fight was done! If someone can beat Floyd, it's Pac. If someone can beat Pac again its Floyd. It's no walk in the park for neither.

Lets go on what Pacquiao says and not what other people says. It is clear in that interview that he has agreed with the blood test.

Another interview was given by Pacquiao regarding this Blood Test. This time the interview is caught by video.

Link: www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=481091

[InTheNeutralCorner]

LOL same old double standards flying around here I see

Nope, there's no double standards. BOTH Pacquiao and Mayweather get criticized for fighting anyone else.

[TitoFan]

LOL... Mayweather fans sure are a thin-skinned bunch. Dare to criticize PBF's lack of activity or his cherry-picking of opponents, and you get a whole litany of his accomplishments, followed by a heaping of insults.

Lighten up, Mayweatherites. Gotta admit, the guy DOES have the activity level of a dormant volcano. He shows up every couple of years (between bouts of dancing, law-breaking, and circus acts)... plays his loyal fans like yo-yo's... throws accusations around as a smoke-screen to hide his blatant, ducking ways, fights some overmatched fool.... and disappears for ANOTHER couple of years. At this rate, we'll be on Social Security by the time he has 3 or 4 more fights.

As opposed to REAL fighters, his precious "0" means everything to him. It's part of his personna. Without it, he'd feel mortal. And he knows his legion of fans, however small and misguided.... are blindly loyal. Hell, he could fight Freddie Roach.... clinch all fight long... and STILL get fiercely defended by his fans. Gotta hand it to you guys. Now THAT'S fanboyism.

But hey... his place in the Boxing HOF is secure. The guy's great, no doubt about that. It's just that I have BETTER THINGS TO DO WITH MY TIME, than to sit around, lighting candles and praying to the boxing gods that I can have another slight glimpse of my hero.

Just my on the matter.

[KKisser]

Well, I for one and pleased he is back in the ring - and announcing it the day I posted on here how much I missed him.

Love him or hate him, the boxing world is a better place with him in it.

I don't get all the hate for this fight, though. He is fighting the best available opponent, is fighting a big hitting southpaw who nearly always drops his opponents yet people are STILL moaning. After this announcement, I am more confident than ever that the fight we all want to see will happen in May 2012. The fact he has chosen to fight a southpaw who likes to come forward gives me that idea.

I'm 99% sure Sky Sports will be showing it live as well so really looking forward to this fight. As someone else mentioned on here, funny how Floyd is criticized for taking this fight and yet people are alright with some of Pacquiao's recent opponents.

I don't always like Pacquiao's choices of opponents, but since Mayweather has ducked him for the last 3 + years, who exactly is he suppose to fight that he hasn't?

exactly. but you know his haters want him to fight martinez. if he fought berto instead of mosley and blew him out they will say berto is green. if he fought ortiz and blew him out they will call ortiz quitter. and when roger mayweather said pac took steroids everyone of floyd groupies bow down and agree with him. im not racist and i have plenty of african-american friends, but i have to ask this, why is it when black fighters lose or in jeopardy of losing a fight always say that their opponents are taking steroids ie. andre berto on ortiz "he was on something and its not flintstones", or jean pascal on bernard hopkins, and floyd and co. on manny pacquiao? that "a-side meth" crap is hilarious and still people buy their story. if that so call a-side meth is true then we(filipinos) would have invaded every damn country there is because we were supposed to be bullet proof. instead it took us 300 years to get rid of the spaniards and we were under japanese and american rule for a while.

Why is it that Filipinos don't want Pac to get his blood randomly tested? Do they know there is a risk to be caught with something? Heck, I would expect Pac fans to have a different attitude like "Hell yeah! We'll have our guy tested to prove he's ready to fight whenever and then kick your guy's ass in the ring. So come on! Let's get tested and lets get ready to rumble" instead, all we hear are excuses on why he shouldn't take the tests: he's afraid of needles, blood makes him nervous, a nurse might poke his arm in the wrong way and hurt him, he can't train properly for more than a week, etc.

have you ever donated blood? or have it taken every week? have somebody draw a small tube of blood from you and then you run up a hill and we will see how you feel. i dont really agree with his excuses but to the notion that if he's innocent then why doesnt he get tested, then the rule should be "guilty until proven innocent" and not the other way around. would you let a cop arrest you because he has suspicions that you took drugs?

Bullshit - Everytime I've had blood taken, I've asked the nurse if I can go to the gym afterwards and every different nurse has said IT'S ABSOLUTELY FINE - I hit the gym an hour later and I'm absolutely fine! It's a non-excuse.

There is an interview from Freddy Roach where he says he's not letting Manny take random blood tests and demands 14 days of no blood tests because Manny would be too weak to train and so on. On another video Manny can be seen in the gym sparring and lifting weights like an animal A DAY AFTER he had blood drawn. It's all on video. Manny, Roach, and Arum should sit down and plan how to come up with excuses instead of contradicting each other all the time.

Manny Pacquiao has already agreed to Blood Tests at anytime even during the fight before the 6th round if Mayweather is willing to fight. This was stated in an interview on November 12, 2010 before the Margareto fight.

Quote:

Beats, Boxing & Mayhem: Now, you’re willing to compromise on the blood testing. You weren’t as flexible earlier this year and walked away to take another fight. Do you regret not compromising during the first negotiations and fighting Joshua Clottey?

Pacquiao: [Pauses] Um, no. I feel like I don’t need Mayweather to make my career. I fought the best and anyone willing to face me. I want it, and feel the fans deserve the [Mayweather] fight. I want to prove to everyone that it wasn’t me who didn’t want the fight. That’s why I made the concession to take anything [blood tests] he wants at any time. Even during the fight before the sixth round if he wanted! What [else] can I do? I hope we get the fight done soon. Let’s get it on.

Link: Manny Pacquiao: Politics As Usual � Beats, Boxing and Mayhem

Pac says one thing and then comes up with something else. See, Freddy Roach says Pacquiao almost dies when it comes to taking blood tests and needs all this time to recuperate and now he can take it in the middle of the fight? Why take it after or during the fight when someone can juice up to train? They have asked for 14 days of no blood tests. That takes away the whole "random" in it. Why can Floyd and his past opponents take it randomly without complaining about it? Why all the contradicting excuses from him, his camp, and Bob Arum?

I also wish the fight was done! If someone can beat Floyd, it's Pac. If someone can beat Pac again its Floyd. It's no walk in the park for neither.

chino, it just burst your bubbles that floyd doesn't have anymore excuses why he doesn't want to face pac, lol. let's see after the ortiz fight if he finally mans up.

[Chino]

chino, it just burst your bubbles that floyd doesn't have anymore excuses why he doesn't want to face pac, lol. let's see after the ortiz fight if he finally mans up

Besides being good in the ring (peds or no peds) Pac is also good at excuses. From blaming it to the socks he was wearing and the gloves, to all the contradicting excuses between him and his team for not taking the random blood tests.

[KKisser]

chino, it just burst your bubbles that floyd doesn't have anymore excuses why he doesn't want to face pac, lol. let's see after the ortiz fight if he finally mans up

Besides being good in the ring (peds or no peds) Pac is also good at excuses. From blaming it to the socks he was wearing and the gloves, to all the contradicting excuses between him and his team for not taking the random blood tests.

excuses are not exclusive to pacquiao. then you must hate a lot of other fighters too. the thing is pacquiao has agreed to the drug tests and if floyd doesn't fight him after ortiz then it shows he never intended to fight manny from the start.

[Chino]

chino, it just burst your bubbles that floyd doesn't have anymore excuses why he doesn't want to face pac, lol. let's see after the ortiz fight if he finally mans up

Besides being good in the ring (peds or no peds) Pac is also good at excuses. From blaming it to the socks he was wearing and the gloves, to all the contradicting excuses between him and his team for not taking the random blood tests.

excuses are not exclusive to pacquiao. then you must hate a lot of other fighters too. the thing is pacquiao has agreed to the drug tests and if floyd doesn't fight him after ortiz then it shows he never intended to fight manny from the start.

Just like past negotiations and interviews he is heard saying he agrees to taking blood tests and later on either him or his team will add that, yes, they agree to all kinds of test…the ones done by the boxing athletic commission or will ask for cut off dates (for what? Hhhhmmm), not random blood tests. What does it tell you when you see Floyd agreed to the list of demands Pac, Roach, and Arum brought to him but have Pac refuse to accept one single demand Floyd made?