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    Default Re: why don't pacquiao and mayweather solve everything this way?

    Tv scheduling, arena bookings, peoples travel arrangements would all be to fuck with this stupid idea. Also, the fighters would end up spending 2 weeks draining down to weight instead of just 1.

    Just make Manny take true random tests. Not random but we will give you a week before the fight to take whatever the fuck you want.
    Last edited by ross; 06-14-2011 at 09:29 PM.

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    Default Re: why don't pacquiao and mayweather solve everything this way?

    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Tv scheduling, arena bookings, peoples travel arrangements would all be to fuck with this stupid idea. Also, the fighters would end up spending 2 weeks draining down to weight instead of just 1.

    Just make Manny take true random tests. Not random but we will give you a week before the fight to take whatever the fuck you want.
    I don't know why the insistence for a true random test without a cut-off date? If Manny agreed to Floyd's drug test demand in the first negotiation, then everyone would have been happy and I don't think you will be complaining. That drug test demand has a 14 day cut-off! Why is it that something that was good then isn't good anymore?

    Anyway, Manny already expressed that he would agree to the drug test without cut-off. So, there should not be anymore argument about this.

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    Beats, Boxing & Mayhem: Now, you’re willing to compromise on the blood testing. You weren’t as flexible earlier this year and walked away to take another fight. Do you regret not compromising during the first negotiations and fighting Joshua Clottey?

    Pacquiao: [Pauses] Um, no. I feel like I don’t need Mayweather to make my career. I fought the best and anyone willing to face me. I want it, and feel the fans deserve the [Mayweather] fight. I want to prove to everyone that it wasn’t me who didn’t want the fight. That’s why I made the concession to take anything [blood tests] he wants at any time. Even during the fight before the sixth round if he wanted! What [else] can I do? I hope we get the fight done soon. Let’s get it on.

    Link: Manny Pacquiao: Politics As Usual � Beats, Boxing and Mayhem[/QUOTE]

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    Default Re: why don't pacquiao and mayweather solve everything this way?

    Quote Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCorner View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Tv scheduling, arena bookings, peoples travel arrangements would all be to fuck with this stupid idea. Also, the fighters would end up spending 2 weeks draining down to weight instead of just 1.

    Just make Manny take true random tests. Not random but we will give you a week before the fight to take whatever the fuck you want.
    I don't know why the insistence for a true random test without a cut-off date? If Manny agreed to Floyd's drug test demand in the first negotiation, then everyone would have been happy and I don't think you will be complaining. That drug test demand has a 14 day cut-off! Why is it that something that was good then isn't good anymore?

    Anyway, Manny already expressed that he would agree to the drug test without cut-off. So, there should not be anymore argument about this.

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    Beats, Boxing & Mayhem: Now, you’re willing to compromise on the blood testing. You weren’t as flexible earlier this year and walked away to take another fight. Do you regret not compromising during the first negotiations and fighting Joshua Clottey?

    Pacquiao: [Pauses] Um, no. I feel like I don’t need Mayweather to make my career. I fought the best and anyone willing to face me. I want it, and feel the fans deserve the [Mayweather] fight. I want to prove to everyone that it wasn’t me who didn’t want the fight. That’s why I made the concession to take anything [blood tests] he wants at any time. Even during the fight before the sixth round if he wanted! What [else] can I do? I hope we get the fight done soon. Let’s get it on.

    Link: Manny Pacquiao: Politics As Usual � Beats, Boxing and Mayhem
    [/QUOTE]

    I dont think there was a cut off date orginally. Also, Manny can say whatever he wants but he still hasnt fought Floyd yet.

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    Default Re: why don't pacquiao and mayweather solve everything this way?

    Plus he started all this 'i'll take any test' stuff when mayweather and his trainer got into trouble with the law and a fight wouldn't have been able to be made anyway.

    But any way time will tell.

    I still stand by my prediction. When the ortiz fight is done pacroid will announce a new opponant so he can't fight floyd and when that fight is done floyd will have already announced his next fight and they just keep missing each other.

    The fight won't happen.

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    Default Re: why don't pacquiao and mayweather solve everything this way?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hornfinger View Post
    Plus he started all this 'i'll take any test' stuff when mayweather and his trainer got into trouble with the law and a fight wouldn't have been able to be made anyway.

    They have been saying “We’ll take the blood tests” since day 1 but later on go “yes, we’ll take the tests…with X amount of cutoff weeks” or “We’ll take all the tests…the official boxing tests, not the ones Floyd is asking for” and so on.
    I still stand by my prediction. When the ortiz fight is done pacroid will announce a new opponent

    That opponent will probably be Ortiz. It’s nothing new to see how Pac quickly fights those who Floyd has already beat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chino View Post
    It’s nothing new to see how Pac quickly fights those who Floyd has already beat.
    And it is interesting to see that Mayweather does not even dare fight those who Pacquiao already beat ....... Cotto, Margarito, Clottey (okey, that last one is a joke).
    Last edited by InTheNeutralCorner; 06-15-2011 at 01:10 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCorner View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Chino View Post
    It’s nothing new to see how Pac quickly fights those who Floyd has already beat.
    And it is interesting to see that Mayweather does not even dare fight those who Pacquiao already beat ....... Cotto, Margarito, Clottey (okey, that last one is a joke).
    Good points man but he faced instead the guy who totally beat Margarito. You know how it is if he beat a slow slug instead of Mosley "Oooh, why did he fight Margarito and not the guy who totally beat him (Mosley)?". As for Cotto, don't see how he would be threatened by a guy who is not known for having speed. Clottey?.... Good one man.

    Cheers!

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    Default Re: why don't pacquiao and mayweather solve everything this way?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hornfinger View Post
    Plus he started all this 'i'll take any test' stuff when mayweather and his trainer got into trouble with the law and a fight wouldn't have been able to be made anyway.

    But any way time will tell.

    I still stand by my prediction. When the ortiz fight is done pacroid will announce a new opponant so he can't fight floyd and when that fight is done floyd will have already announced his next fight and they just keep missing each other.

    The fight won't happen.
    That statement is FALSE.

    Pacquiao can not announce a new opponent after the Mayweather-Ortiz fight because he is already scheduled to fight Marquez. Manny would not even be fighting JMM if Floyd did not go on vacation just to come back to fight Ortiz.

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    Default Re: why don't pacquiao and mayweather solve everything this way?

    Quote Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCorner View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hornfinger View Post
    Plus he started all this 'i'll take any test' stuff when mayweather and his trainer got into trouble with the law and a fight wouldn't have been able to be made anyway.

    But any way time will tell.

    I still stand by my prediction. When the ortiz fight is done pacroid will announce a new opponant so he can't fight floyd and when that fight is done floyd will have already announced his next fight and they just keep missing each other.

    The fight won't happen.
    That statement is FALSE.

    Pacquiao can not announce a new opponent after the Mayweather-Ortiz fight because he is already scheduled to fight Marquez. Manny would not even be fighting JMM if Floyd did not go on vacation just to come back to fight Ortiz.
    It's even more obvious than that, before the fight with Pac vs Mosley. TR had been trying to get Mayweather to the table and made him a Guaranteed offer of $50 Million include the test demands and of course Arum comes out and says Floyd want $100 Million. Floyd denied that he said he wanted $100 Million and then said what he said was "I could make &75-$100 Million on the back end". So really he inadvertently confirmed that he rejected the $50 Million offer before announcing he's fighting Ortiz.

    I don't think were going to see these two fight until it no longer matters.

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    Default Re: why don't pacquiao and mayweather solve everything this way?

    Quote Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCorner View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hornfinger View Post
    Plus he started all this 'i'll take any test' stuff when mayweather and his trainer got into trouble with the law and a fight wouldn't have been able to be made anyway.

    But any way time will tell.

    I still stand by my prediction. When the ortiz fight is done pacroid will announce a new opponant so he can't fight floyd and when that fight is done floyd will have already announced his next fight and they just keep missing each other.

    The fight won't happen.
    That statement is FALSE.

    Pacquiao can not announce a new opponent after the Mayweather-Ortiz fight because he is already scheduled to fight Marquez. Manny would not even be fighting JMM if Floyd did not go on vacation just to come back to fight Ortiz.
    LOL Well pacroid beat me to it then.

    floyd will then line up an opponant for after that fight then pac will line up one......

    You can argue all you want about the fine details the outcome is still the same.

    The fight ain't happening, and the two will continue to fight other people.

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    Default Re: why don't pacquiao and mayweather solve everything this way?

    All this lining up opponent stuff, to me by his schedule, Mayweather is just trying to keep busy, as well as keep some money coming in, whilst waiting for Manny. Wheras Manny is being milked before he loses his luster against Mayweather.

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    Default Re: why don't pacquiao and mayweather solve everything this way?

    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCorner View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Tv scheduling, arena bookings, peoples travel arrangements would all be to fuck with this stupid idea. Also, the fighters would end up spending 2 weeks draining down to weight instead of just 1.

    Just make Manny take true random tests. Not random but we will give you a week before the fight to take whatever the fuck you want.
    I don't know why the insistence for a true random test without a cut-off date? If Manny agreed to Floyd's drug test demand in the first negotiation, then everyone would have been happy and I don't think you will be complaining. That drug test demand has a 14 day cut-off! Why is it that something that was good then isn't good anymore?

    Anyway, Manny already expressed that he would agree to the drug test without cut-off. So, there should not be anymore argument about this.

    Quote:

    Beats, Boxing & Mayhem: Now, you’re willing to compromise on the blood testing. You weren’t as flexible earlier this year and walked away to take another fight. Do you regret not compromising during the first negotiations and fighting Joshua Clottey?

    Pacquiao: [Pauses] Um, no. I feel like I don’t need Mayweather to make my career. I fought the best and anyone willing to face me. I want it, and feel the fans deserve the [Mayweather] fight. I want to prove to everyone that it wasn’t me who didn’t want the fight. That’s why I made the concession to take anything [blood tests] he wants at any time. Even during the fight before the sixth round if he wanted! What [else] can I do? I hope we get the fight done soon. Let’s get it on.

    Link: Manny Pacquiao: Politics As Usual � Beats, Boxing and Mayhem
    I dont think there was a cut off date orginally. Also, Manny can say whatever he wants but he still hasnt fought Floyd yet.
    [QUOTE]
    Mayweather wanted a 14-day cut-off on the tests, while Pacquiao wanted the random drug testing protocol to end 24-days before the fight.

    Pacquiao Bends To Mayweather: Agrees To 14-Day Cut - Boxing News

    And the reason there wasn't any fight after the second negotiation is because Mayweather did not want to fight. He went on vacation.

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    Default Re: why don't pacquiao and mayweather solve everything this way?

    Quote Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCorner View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Tv scheduling, arena bookings, peoples travel arrangements would all be to fuck with this stupid idea. Also, the fighters would end up spending 2 weeks draining down to weight instead of just 1.

    Just make Manny take true random tests. Not random but we will give you a week before the fight to take whatever the fuck you want.
    I don't know why the insistence for a true random test without a cut-off date? If Manny agreed to Floyd's drug test demand in the first negotiation, then everyone would have been happy and I don't think you will be complaining. That drug test demand has a 14 day cut-off! Why is it that something that was good then isn't good anymore?

    Anyway, Manny already expressed that he would agree to the drug test without cut-off. So, there should not be anymore argument about this.

    Quote:

    Beats, Boxing & Mayhem: Now, you’re willing to compromise on the blood testing. You weren’t as flexible earlier this year and walked away to take another fight. Do you regret not compromising during the first negotiations and fighting Joshua Clottey?

    Pacquiao: [Pauses] Um, no. I feel like I don’t need Mayweather to make my career. I fought the best and anyone willing to face me. I want it, and feel the fans deserve the [Mayweather] fight. I want to prove to everyone that it wasn’t me who didn’t want the fight. That’s why I made the concession to take anything [blood tests] he wants at any time. Even during the fight before the sixth round if he wanted! What [else] can I do? I hope we get the fight done soon. Let’s get it on.

    Link: Manny Pacquiao: Politics As Usual � Beats, Boxing and Mayhem
    [/QUOTE]

    he doesn't care his legacy either or he doesn't want to be in a better position in the all time list, at present what i have read is lots of people saying that pacman or mayweather wouldn't have beat people like duran, hagler, leonard, hearns, jc chavez, and others, i guess this shouldn't be like this, he should be repeating those words everytime he can on the media, instead of saying that he doesn't care, it's for the fans, not for mayweather

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    Default Re: why don't pacquiao and mayweather solve everything this way?

    Quote Originally Posted by intheneutralcorner View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    tv scheduling, arena bookings, peoples travel arrangements would all be to fuck with this stupid idea. Also, the fighters would end up spending 2 weeks draining down to weight instead of just 1.

    Just make manny take true random tests. Not random but we will give you a week before the fight to take whatever the fuck you want.
    i don't know why the insistence for a true random test without a cut-off date? If manny agreed to floyd's drug test demand in the first negotiation, then everyone would have been happy and i don't think you will be complaining. That drug test demand has a 14 day cut-off! Why is it that something that was good then isn't good anymore?

    Anyway, manny already expressed that he would agree to the drug test without cut-off. So, there should not be anymore argument about this.

    Quote:

    beats, boxing & mayhem: Now, you’re willing to compromise on the blood testing. You weren’t as flexible earlier this year and walked away to take another fight. Do you regret not compromising during the first negotiations and fighting joshua clottey?

    pacquiao: [pauses] um, no. I feel like i don’t need mayweather to make my career. I fought the best and anyone willing to face me. I want it, and feel the fans deserve the [mayweather] fight. I want to prove to everyone that it wasn’t me who didn’t want the fight. That’s why i made the concession to take anything [blood tests] he wants at any time. Even during the fight before the sixth round if he wanted! What [else] can i do? I hope we get the fight done soon. Let’s get it on.

    Link: manny pacquiao: Politics as usual � beats, boxing and mayhem
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