Booth: "I guarantee they cannot predict what David is going to do on 2 July"

[Mars_ax]

[QUOTE=mattboxingfan;982551]

I don't know about at the opening bell, but chances are Haye will pick his spots, and attempt some bull-rushes, not that it's going to do him any good, Wlad will be ready for it.
Haye figures to have some tricks up his sleeve, but here again, he isn't fighting some lumbering oaf like Valuev, or chumps like Barrett, Ruiz or Audley. Wlad is the best Heavyweight in the world, with advantages in size, skill, experience and devastating HW power, everything that might have worked for Haye before this fight, will fail July 2nd.

Haye is very quick for a HW. He still has a very tall task (literally and figuratively).
When Haye fought Valuev he was able to move out of the way of Valuev's jab and straight right hand and just keep moving. While Wlad isn't as big as Valuev, he is alot bigger than Haye. Wlad's jab is relatively quick and is long. Wlad should be able to catch up to Haye with the jab by the end of round 2. When the jab starts landing, the fight is effectively over.

Haye has to hurt Wlad in the first 2 rounds or I don't see him winning.

Like i've said on other threads Capt, Haye's power @ HW is being overrated by the wishful thinking of his fans. There was some blithering idiot a few days ago saying that Haye had Valuev "badly hurt" in the final round of their fight. I watched the last round of that fight and all I saw was, Haye's fans and the announcers going berserk & overreacting, and Valuev losing his balance a bit after Haye threw a little left hook that couldn't have crushed a grape. BTW, I never did see where Haye did enough to take Valuez's title away, so as far as i'm concerned, Haye ain't even a HW champion.





So I don't really see Haye's "power" being an issue for Wlad, and I don't see Haye "exploding" or rushing in and hurting Wlad in the first few rounds. If he tries that bullshit, he's either going to have a heavy jab in his face or get KTFO by a big right hand straight down the pipe. The bottom line, Haye won't be able to KO or hurt Wlad, and he won't be able to outpoint/outbox Wlad if this somehow goes to a decision.
Haye has no heart and no chin and he fights like a fucking amateur. If he somehow survives the first 7 or 8 rounds and doesn't get flattened, he'll quit on his stool from the pounding he takes, like the pussy he really is.

Oh yeah the chicken dance and Valuev shaking his head to get it straight was definitely just a loss of balance. We have some serious hate going on here.

Whatever, I see it differently, calling him briefly off balance, a "chicken dance" is just fucking laughable, as for hate... whatever, is that your best argument?

[Hornfinger]

Mars is obviously watching a different haye vs valuev fight to the one he uploaded

[mattboxingfan]

[QUOTE=Mars_ax;982557]

I don't know about at the opening bell, but chances are Haye will pick his spots, and attempt some bull-rushes, not that it's going to do him any good, Wlad will be ready for it.
Haye figures to have some tricks up his sleeve, but here again, he isn't fighting some lumbering oaf like Valuev, or chumps like Barrett, Ruiz or Audley. Wlad is the best Heavyweight in the world, with advantages in size, skill, experience and devastating HW power, everything that might have worked for Haye before this fight, will fail July 2nd.

Haye is very quick for a HW. He still has a very tall task (literally and figuratively).
When Haye fought Valuev he was able to move out of the way of Valuev's jab and straight right hand and just keep moving. While Wlad isn't as big as Valuev, he is alot bigger than Haye. Wlad's jab is relatively quick and is long. Wlad should be able to catch up to Haye with the jab by the end of round 2. When the jab starts landing, the fight is effectively over.

Haye has to hurt Wlad in the first 2 rounds or I don't see him winning.

Like i've said on other threads Capt, Haye's power @ HW is being overrated by the wishful thinking of his fans. There was some blithering idiot a few days ago saying that Haye had Valuev "badly hurt" in the final round of their fight. I watched the last round of that fight and all I saw was, Haye's fans and the announcers going berserk & overreacting, and Valuev losing his balance a bit after Haye threw a little left hook that couldn't have crushed a grape. BTW, I never did see where Haye did enough to take Valuez's title away, so as far as i'm concerned, Haye ain't even a HW champion.





So I don't really see Haye's "power" being an issue for Wlad, and I don't see Haye "exploding" or rushing in and hurting Wlad in the first few rounds. If he tries that bullshit, he's either going to have a heavy jab in his face or get KTFO by a big right hand straight down the pipe. The bottom line, Haye won't be able to KO or hurt Wlad, and he won't be able to outpoint/outbox Wlad if this somehow goes to a decision.
Haye has no heart and no chin and he fights like a fucking amateur. If he somehow survives the first 7 or 8 rounds and doesn't get flattened, he'll quit on his stool from the pounding he takes, like the pussy he really is.

Oh yeah the chicken dance and Valuev shaking his head to get it straight was definitely just a loss of balance. We have some serious hate going on here.

Whatever, I see it differently, calling him briefly off balance, a "chicken dance" is just fucking laughable, as for hate... whatever, is that your best argument?

What the hell are you watching? The whole boxing world knows that Valuev was hurt no one slips around like that, he isn't on an ice rink! I'm not trying to make an argument for you to reply to. What would be the point all its going to be is hate for David Haye and i can go read that on the internet without writing a huge essay to continue the argument.

[Mars_ax]

Whatever, I see it differently, calling him briefly off balance, a "chicken dance" is just fucking laughable, as for hate... whatever, is that your best argument?

What the hell are you watching? The whole boxing world knows that Valuev was hurt no one slips around like that, he isn't on an ice rink! I'm not trying to make an argument for you to reply to. What would be the point all its going to be is hate for David Haye and i can go read that on the internet without writing a huge essay to continue the argument.

They do? I guess you must speak for the whole boxing world. nice to know.

Quit acting like a douche, and can the fucking "hate for David Haye" bullshit, we're talking about boxing here, this ain't cricket or tennis OK?

If Valuev was so "badly hurt", like some of you seem to think he was, and not just knocked off balance for a few seconds, why did he seem so unfazed, steady on his feet and start backing Haye up 10 seconds after it happened? Is that how someone "badly hurt" reacts, I think not.

Haye's fans in the crowd, and the announcers start pissing themselves and getting hysterical, because they assumed Valuev was "badly hurt", but he really wasn't, he's just a lumbering Ox with shit for balance.

It would be interesting to hear what Valuev had to say about about the 12th round and the punch.

[erics44]

Whatever, I see it differently, calling him briefly off balance, a "chicken dance" is just fucking laughable, as for hate... whatever, is that your best argument?

What the hell are you watching? The whole boxing world knows that Valuev was hurt no one slips around like that, he isn't on an ice rink! I'm not trying to make an argument for you to reply to. What would be the point all its going to be is hate for David Haye and i can go read that on the internet without writing a huge essay to continue the argument.

They do? I guess you must speak for the whole boxing world. nice to know.

Quit acting like a douche, and can the fucking "hate for David Haye" bullshit, we're talking about boxing here, this ain't cricket or tennis OK?

If Valuev was so "badly hurt", like some of you seem to think he was, and not just knocked off balance for a few seconds, why did he seem so unfazed, steady on his feet and start backing Haye up 10 seconds after it happened? Is that how someone "badly hurt" reacts, I think not.

Haye's fans in the crowd, and the announcers start pissing themselves and getting hysterical, because they assumed Valuev was "badly hurt", but he really wasn't, he's just a lumbering Ox with shit for balance.

It would be interesting to hear what Valuev had to say about about the 12th round and the punch.

valuev did a funny little dance, haye hurt him

wlad never knocked down sam peter tho in their last fight, peter just felt a bit bored, is that how someone who is knocked down reacts? i think not, all he did was lie on the floor in the ring

he got up several minutes later and looked steady on his feet

[boxingbantz]

I think Haye and Booth are just trying to derail Wlad from his game plan, to sow some doubt in his mind because they know that Wlad has all the tools and advantages to cause problems to Haye; Advantage in reach, size, power and technique, that is a huge challenge for Haye just here.

I have no doubt that Haye will have some tricks up sleeve, the thing is Wlad has been there done that, Haye's mind games won't mean jack shit come fight night.

I'd like to see Wlad turn up the heat on Haye right from the opening bell, put the pressure on, take Haye out of his game plan, and let this clown know he's there to to fuck him up.[/QUOTE]



That made me chuckle. That is exactly what Wlad is going to do.

[Hornfinger]

Maybe haye will pull out a gun and shoot wlad at the opening bell.

[ninjaspy3]

I think Haye and Booth are just trying to derail Wlad from his game plan, to sow some doubt in his mind because they know that Wlad has all the tools and advantages to cause problems to Haye; Advantage in reach, size, power and technique, that is a huge challenge for Haye just here.

I have no doubt that Haye will have some tricks up sleeve, the thing is Wlad has been there done that, Haye's mind games won't mean jack shit come fight night.

I'd like to see Wlad turn up the heat on Haye right from the opening bell, put the pressure on, take Haye out of his game plan, and let this clown know he's there to to fuck him up.

That made me chuckle. That is exactly what Wlad is going to do.[/QUOTE]

Ahh, now that's 2 experts who know exactly how the fight will play out

[erics44]

I think Haye and Booth are just trying to derail Wlad from his game plan, to sow some doubt in his mind because they know that Wlad has all the tools and advantages to cause problems to Haye; Advantage in reach, size, power and technique, that is a huge challenge for Haye just here.

I have no doubt that Haye will have some tricks up sleeve, the thing is Wlad has been there done that, Haye's mind games won't mean jack shit come fight night.

I'd like to see Wlad turn up the heat on Haye right from the opening bell, put the pressure on, take Haye out of his game plan, and let this clown know he's there to to fuck him up.

That made me chuckle. That is exactly what Wlad is going to do.

Ahh, now that's 2 experts who know exactly how the fight will play out [/QUOTE]



who do you think will win fella?

[mattboxingfan]

Whatever, I see it differently, calling him briefly off balance, a "chicken dance" is just fucking laughable, as for hate... whatever, is that your best argument?

What the hell are you watching? The whole boxing world knows that Valuev was hurt no one slips around like that, he isn't on an ice rink! I'm not trying to make an argument for you to reply to. What would be the point all its going to be is hate for David Haye and i can go read that on the internet without writing a huge essay to continue the argument.

They do? I guess you must speak for the whole boxing world. nice to know.

Quit acting like a douche, and can the fucking "hate for David Haye" bullshit, we're talking about boxing here, this ain't cricket or tennis OK?

If Valuev was so "badly hurt", like some of you seem to think he was, and not just knocked off balance for a few seconds, why did he seem so unfazed, steady on his feet and start backing Haye up 10 seconds after it happened? Is that how someone "badly hurt" reacts, I think not.

Haye's fans in the crowd, and the announcers start pissing themselves and getting hysterical, because they assumed Valuev was "badly hurt", but he really wasn't, he's just a lumbering Ox with shit for balance.

It would be interesting to hear what Valuev had to say about about the 12th round and the punch.

'Some' of us would be more than just you and your idea that he wasn't hurt.

Ever heard of 'dangerous when hurt' yeah happens a lot in boxing you should probably...watch some fights.

We saw him lose his balance that whole fight i thought he was brake dancing! Oh wait no that was just when Haye caught him! he was flat footed for the whole fight its hard to stumble when your like that.

When your quite finished with Wladimir we will welcome you back to the real world.

[Mars_ax]

We saw him lose his balance that whole fight i thought he was brake dancing! Oh wait no that was just when Haye caught him! he was flat footed for the whole fight its hard to stumble when your like that.

When your quite finished with Wladimir we will welcome you back to the real world.

This is the kind of silly shit i've come to expect from Haye's girlfriends, whatever.

[El Kabong]

Who the hell says John Ruiz has a better chin than Wlad?!?! Who says Valuev has a better chin

NEW RULE: You can't say someone has a good chin when its never stood up to anyone with power.

Ruiz LOSS KO 1 to David Tua - proven heavyweight power puncher (only one he ever fought, lest you count the WBA title holder)

Nicolay Valuev has NEVER fought a proven heavyweight power puncher but I saw Monte Barrett rock him pretty good as well as Taras Bidenko (not big punchers).

I'm not saying Wlad's chin is granite...I'm saying comparing Wlad's chin to Valuev's or Ruiz's is not apples to apples given who they've fought.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Oi, I mentioned switching first. Bollocks, the lot of ya!

[Master]

Haye will fight on the back foot like Groves did, negate Wlad's jab as Haye did against Audley and try and frustrate Wlad in making a mistake so that he can catch Wlad. I think the tactic will work for a bit but will get caught come in and get stopped.

[Andre]

Oi, I mentioned switching first. Bollocks, the lot of ya!

Yeah, Hayes good at pulling his front foot around behind him and throwing the rear stronger arm as he does so that it becomes the front arm on landing and his heads moved out of range.
He got plenty of practice fighting that giant that time.