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[FinitoElDinamita]

I think it's more to do with the fact that Haye is speaking with colloquial English... whilst Wlad is speaking with textbook English.

If you are educated to speak a language, rather than immersed in a language and culture during your upbringing then of course you are going to speak it more purely.

Miles I'm assuming that being an English teacher, you already knew this... so I really don't see your point. I agree that the fact that English isn't Wlad's first language matters when assessing whether he is shook/shaken/shooken (:P) by Haye, as for Haye's grasp of English? It's completely irrelevant and just screams a bit of snobbery to be honest.

Great post.. I haven't read through the thread but I dont know what the fuss is about. Shook, Shaken or whatevers.. who cares, we all make errors..

Haye strikes me as a well spoken guy from what I've seen. He's quite articulate.

[Gandalf]

He's just a potty mouthed Londoner. Chris Hitchens is articulate, Oscar Wilde was articulate, Steven Fry is articulate. David Haye is just a big mouth, but he is clearly a better boxer than those other far more witty and slightly out of shape characters.

I actually imagine Mayorga to be something of a poet too. The insults flow fast and easy, with a wonderful sense of diction and phrasing. I would love to read a book of verse written by Ricardo Mayorga.

[Hornfinger]

He's just a potty mouthed Londoner. Chris Hitchens is articulate, Oscar Wilde was articulate, Steven Fry is articulate. David Haye is just a big mouth,

Ahh but he's the only one in the list that isn't gay

[Gandalf]

He's just a potty mouthed Londoner. Chris Hitchens is articulate, Oscar Wilde was articulate, Steven Fry is articulate. David Haye is just a big mouth,

Ahh but he's the only one in the list that isn't gay

Haha, good point. Though I am sure Lyle would beg to differ.

[Gandalf]

What am I talking about? Chris Hitchens isn't gay, at least not as far as I know. He was definitely married at one time, but I don't really know much about his personal life. Might be, but I doubt it.

[Gandalf]

Oh, scrap that, he seems to have written about his homosexual experiences. I never knew he was a big bender. You learn something new everyday!

[Hornfinger]

Oh, scrap that, he seems to have written about his homosexual experiences. I never knew he was a big bender. You learn something new everyday!

I didn't know either I just guessed he was

[brocktonblockbust]

Mayorga published in 2005 a half dozen or so iambic pentameter sonnets from his house in Tegucigalpa. The titles of 2 I remotely recall. "Startin' to Smoke, Pink Wig Puffin' " or something like that. Then there was a weird one like "I'll Rock His Socks Off, I'll Sock His Rocks Off" or something like that also.

As for Haye he is certainly a boor, a cretin, an obnoxious illiterate, worthy of a 2nd round shellacking. I preferred to listen to Jesse The Boogeyman Ferguson's postfight interviews.

[Gandalf]

Mayorga published in 2005 a half dozen or so iambic pentameter sonnets from his house in Tegucigalpa. The titles of 2 I remotely recall. "Startin' to Smoke, Pink Wig Puffin' " or something like that. Then there was a weird one like "I'll Rock His Socks Off, I'll Sock His Rocks Off" or something like that also.

As for Haye he is certainly a boor, a cretin, an obnoxious illiterate, worthy of a 2nd round shellacking. I preferred to listen to Jesse The Boogeyman Ferguson's postfight interviews.

Mayorga is very talented. I particularly liked the one entitled "I shagged Oscar's wife four times in one night". It was very touching and full of tenderness. The man just has a feel for language and knows how to put words together. "I love my Mum" is another very good one. It's all about how he has been made a man because of his mother. Lovely stuff indeed. "Penis mountain" is just downright weird though and he was quite likely off his head when he wrote that one. Still, all in all a top notch poet.