Let's be realistic - what are the odds that Haye pulls off an upset?

[mattboxingfan]

I'm not talking about betting odds, realistically I give Haye less then a 5% chance of knocking Wlad out, and that's Haye's only chance, because he has zero chance of "outboxing/outworking" Wlad and winning a decision.

Why does Haye have less then a 5% chance of winning and only by KO, you ask?:

#1. As mentioned, Haye has zero chance of out-boxing Wlad and winning a decision. Wlad is a much more skilled boxer, with twice the ring experience as a Pro, and at least 5 times more HW title fights. So forget about Haye winning a decision, it ain't gonna happen.

#2. Haye is "speedy" and has a bit of power, but let's be real here, it's not like Wlad hasn't faced big punchers before. These days because of his improved defense, size and reach, it's not that easy to hit Wlad with clean effective punches. Especially when you're getting a heavy jab in your face, and getting pounded with powerful straight right hands. Getting that one big shot in, that turns the fight around for Haye, will be about as likely as him winning the lottery.

#3. Manny Steward is going to have Wlad well prepared for this fight, he'll be in the best shape ever, and put on his best performance ever in front of his adopted home-crowd in Germany. I also believe we're going to see everyone of Haye's weaknesses exposed, including his chin/stamina, and lack of experience at the elite level. Haye's wild, desperate swings, in an attempt to get a KO, will only make him look like an amateur.

Anyway, that's my take, if i'm wrong, feel free to have a go at me July 3rd.

Your the guy who calls David Haye supporters his boyfriends/girlfriend yet all of your threads are against Haye and very pro Wlad...I'm starting to think maybe you have a man crush on 'Wlady'. Strangly enough your putting me off Wlad every time i read your posts so ill be going for a Haye KO of your secret lover in 4.

[Mars_ax]

I'm not talking about betting odds, realistically I give Haye less then a 5% chance of knocking Wlad out, and that's Haye's only chance, because he has zero chance of "outboxing/outworking" Wlad and winning a decision.

Why does Haye have less then a 5% chance of winning and only by KO, you ask?:

#1. As mentioned, Haye has zero chance of out-boxing Wlad and winning a decision. Wlad is a much more skilled boxer, with twice the ring experience as a Pro, and at least 5 times more HW title fights. So forget about Haye winning a decision, it ain't gonna happen.

#2. Haye is "speedy" and has a bit of power, but let's be real here, it's not like Wlad hasn't faced big punchers before. These days because of his improved defense, size and reach, it's not that easy to hit Wlad with clean effective punches. Especially when you're getting a heavy jab in your face, and getting pounded with powerful straight right hands. Getting that one big shot in, that turns the fight around for Haye, will be about as likely as him winning the lottery.

#3. Manny Steward is going to have Wlad well prepared for this fight, he'll be in the best shape ever, and put on his best performance ever in front of his adopted home-crowd in Germany. I also believe we're going to see everyone of Haye's weaknesses exposed, including his chin/stamina, and lack of experience at the elite level. Haye's wild, desperate swings, in an attempt to get a KO, will only make him look like an amateur.

Anyway, that's my take, if i'm wrong, feel free to have a go at me July 3rd.

Your the guy who calls David Haye supporters his boyfriends/girlfriend yet all of your threads are against Haye and very pro Wlad...I'm starting to think maybe you have a man crush on 'Wlady'. Strangly enough your putting me off Wlad every time i read your posts so ill be going for a Haye KO of your secret lover in 4.

You seem to really dwell on this homo stuff Matt, I mean Haye supporters do seem a bit gay at times, but it's not like I mention it in every post. Not that there's anything wrong with it, but are you a peter puffer Matt??

As for me having a man crush on Wlady, I realize you're just trying to annoy me, but naaah, I don't think that way about men. I respect them for what they're able accomplish in life, enjoy being friends, fishing, drinking, forum boxing buds with some of them, but when it comes sex, it's all about women for me.

[mattboxingfan]

I'm not talking about betting odds, realistically I give Haye less then a 5% chance of knocking Wlad out, and that's Haye's only chance, because he has zero chance of "outboxing/outworking" Wlad and winning a decision.

Why does Haye have less then a 5% chance of winning and only by KO, you ask?:

#1. As mentioned, Haye has zero chance of out-boxing Wlad and winning a decision. Wlad is a much more skilled boxer, with twice the ring experience as a Pro, and at least 5 times more HW title fights. So forget about Haye winning a decision, it ain't gonna happen.

#2. Haye is "speedy" and has a bit of power, but let's be real here, it's not like Wlad hasn't faced big punchers before. These days because of his improved defense, size and reach, it's not that easy to hit Wlad with clean effective punches. Especially when you're getting a heavy jab in your face, and getting pounded with powerful straight right hands. Getting that one big shot in, that turns the fight around for Haye, will be about as likely as him winning the lottery.

#3. Manny Steward is going to have Wlad well prepared for this fight, he'll be in the best shape ever, and put on his best performance ever in front of his adopted home-crowd in Germany. I also believe we're going to see everyone of Haye's weaknesses exposed, including his chin/stamina, and lack of experience at the elite level. Haye's wild, desperate swings, in an attempt to get a KO, will only make him look like an amateur.

Anyway, that's my take, if i'm wrong, feel free to have a go at me July 3rd.

Your the guy who calls David Haye supporters his boyfriends/girlfriend yet all of your threads are against Haye and very pro Wlad...I'm starting to think maybe you have a man crush on 'Wlady'. Strangly enough your putting me off Wlad every time i read your posts so ill be going for a Haye KO of your secret lover in 4.

You seem to really dwell on this homo stuff Matt, I mean Haye supporters do seem a bit gay at times, but it's not like I mention it in every post. Not that there's anything wrong with it, but are you a peter puffer Matt??

As for me having a man crush on Wlady, I realize you're just trying to annoy me, but naaah, I don't think that way about men. I respect them for what they're able accomplish in life, enjoy being friends, fishing, drinking, forum boxing buds with some of them, but when it comes sex, it's all about women for me.

Im in no way trying to annoy you I just want to know why your so against David Haye you do not seem to let people pick him in this fight you have to object I mean i respect Wladimir and think he is one hell of a fighter. Everyone is entitled to there views and picks when it comes to fights so you should let people choice without your obvious hating. I think Hornfinger is onto something here with your nuthugging. And for the gay comments im very much straight so you can zip your trousers back up and keep 'Wladys' sweaty sack on your face.

[Mars_ax]

I'm not talking about betting odds, realistically I give Haye less then a 5% chance of knocking Wlad out, and that's Haye's only chance, because he has zero chance of "outboxing/outworking" Wlad and winning a decision.

Why does Haye have less then a 5% chance of winning and only by KO, you ask?:

#1. As mentioned, Haye has zero chance of out-boxing Wlad and winning a decision. Wlad is a much more skilled boxer, with twice the ring experience as a Pro, and at least 5 times more HW title fights. So forget about Haye winning a decision, it ain't gonna happen.

#2. Haye is "speedy" and has a bit of power, but let's be real here, it's not like Wlad hasn't faced big punchers before. These days because of his improved defense, size and reach, it's not that easy to hit Wlad with clean effective punches. Especially when you're getting a heavy jab in your face, and getting pounded with powerful straight right hands. Getting that one big shot in, that turns the fight around for Haye, will be about as likely as him winning the lottery.

#3. Manny Steward is going to have Wlad well prepared for this fight, he'll be in the best shape ever, and put on his best performance ever in front of his adopted home-crowd in Germany. I also believe we're going to see everyone of Haye's weaknesses exposed, including his chin/stamina, and lack of experience at the elite level. Haye's wild, desperate swings, in an attempt to get a KO, will only make him look like an amateur.

Anyway, that's my take, if i'm wrong, feel free to have a go at me July 3rd.

Your the guy who calls David Haye supporters his boyfriends/girlfriend yet all of your threads are against Haye and very pro Wlad...I'm starting to think maybe you have a man crush on 'Wlady'. Strangly enough your putting me off Wlad every time i read your posts so ill be going for a Haye KO of your secret lover in 4.

You seem to really dwell on this homo stuff Matt, I mean Haye supporters do seem a bit gay at times, but it's not like I mention it in every post. Not that there's anything wrong with it, but are you a peter puffer Matt??

As for me having a man crush on Wlady, I realize you're just trying to annoy me, but naaah, I don't think that way about men. I respect them for what they're able accomplish in life, enjoy being friends, fishing, drinking, forum boxing buds with some of them, but when it comes sex, it's all about women for me.

Im in no way trying to annoy you I just want to know why your so against David Haye you do not seem to let people pick him in this fight you have to object I mean i respect Wladimir and think he is one hell of a fighter. Everyone is entitled to there views and picks when it comes to fights so you should let people choice without your obvious hating. I think Hornfinger is onto something here with your nuthugging. And for the gay comments im very much straight so you can zip your trousers back up and keep 'Wladys' sweaty sack on your face.

I see, just more of your childish cuntlike bitching and homo shit, seriously dude, I've got better things to do with my time than playing games with kids and idiots.

Tell you what Matt, since you agree with Horntard so much, you can join him on my on my ignore list.

Have a great day.