Haye Fans Gather Round: What's the winning formula?

[Taffturner]

Think haye needs to knock wlad out, as wlad is a very efficient boxer ie jabbing fighters to a tko, i dont see haye out boxing wlad, i also think if any of the current heavywieghts (bar maybe vitali) hav the speed and power to ko wlad its haye, he has genuine ko power and is very slick and super fast, if haye lands big hes a lethal finisher he swarms on hurt opponents similar pacqiaou, only prob is if he gets caught with a big shot, hows hayes chin gona hold up?!?

[marbleheadmaui]

I couldn't care less who wins. But here's what I don't get.

If there was an American/African/Asian fighter with the following characteristics

6'3, 210
Former cruiser champ
Four fights in three years
Threw 13 punches a round in his only legit heavyweight win
Has been knocked down four times in his career
In last fight stood still and didn't throw for two rounds against a shot journeyman

Wouldn't everyone be complaining Wlad's competition still stinks?

[The Promoter]

I see Haye dangerous early and then just taking a methodical beating from Wlad...If Haye has a chance to win, I believe he would have to employ an in and out strategy like Mike Spinks vs Larry Holmes but I don't believe Haye can be that disciplined. Wlad is disciplined and will not take the chances that David wants can capitalize on...with that said, I am wrong quite often

I will be rooting for David Haye...

[J_Undisputed]

Who's the hunter or hunted through out the fight could spawn a few different scenarios. Mostly all of which have Vlad poking and try to prove he's stronger and showing his size and Haye trying to find a way in an out unscathed.

Haye looks prone to eating a straight right hand. Its something that Manny and Vlad will look to land. Often times, Haye has a bad habit of stepping straight back or back pedaling into the ropes. He also leaves himself open coming in. Ideally a Haye win will happen with Haye getting rocked.. and retreating and Vlad wanting it bad enough that he walks into something big while going for the kill and Haye trying to finish. It would be the most exciting fight we could get from these too. Not a fan of one or the other but, something has to open up the heavyweight division. I'd rather watch a blown up cruiser try to stay afloat in the heavyweight division and out run a bulls eye than watch a giant sleep walk through rarely skilled and mostly unconditioned opposition. I think the Klitchsko brothers do their thing well, but judging how good the wins are or they're place in history should come from how bad their opponents look but how good they look taking down inferior opposition. Taking out a guy in 10 you could have take out in 2, doesn't speak well for a champ who goes by the name Dr. Steelhammer. I actually don't hate Vitali, at least he goes for it sometimes and tries to look like he's there to hurt someone instead of waiting for the disparity in conditioning to kick in.

[Mar]

I'm not a fan of either, and actually think wlad will win easy, but the way i see haye winning is to get inside somehow use that speed to catch wlad right on the soup cooler. Wlad is expecting haye to come in there and just start blasting away, maybe the opposite would throw him off a bit. For the fans of haye here i do wish him luck. The old lady in the second row could win for all i care if we can get a good fight out of it.

[erics44]

I couldn't care less who wins. But here's what I don't get.

If there was an American/African/Asian fighter with the following characteristics

6'3, 210
Former cruiser champ
Four fights in three years
Threw 13 punches a round in his only legit heavyweight win
Has been knocked down four times in his career
In last fight stood still and didn't throw for two rounds against a shot journeyman

Wouldn't everyone be complaining Wlad's competition still stinks?

you do care who wins you are clearly pro wlad

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

I couldn't care less who wins. But here's what I don't get.

If there was an American/African/Asian fighter with the following characteristics

6'3, 210
Former cruiser champ
Four fights in three years
Threw 13 punches a round in his only legit heavyweight win
Has been knocked down four times in his career
In last fight stood still and didn't throw for two rounds against a shot journeyman

Wouldn't everyone be complaining Wlad's competition still stinks?

you do care who wins you are clearly pro wlad

Marbs, I missed your post 1st time round. I'm surprised that you think him being not being American/African/Asian has any impact on the public perception of Haye. The level of Hype around Haye is not affected by his nationality.

And your 'characteristics' are somewhat tailored.

[erics44]

I couldn't care less who wins. But here's what I don't get.

If there was an American/African/Asian fighter with the following characteristics

6'3, 210
Former cruiser champ
Four fights in three years
Threw 13 punches a round in his only legit heavyweight win
Has been knocked down four times in his career
In last fight stood still and didn't throw for two rounds against a shot journeyman

Wouldn't everyone be complaining Wlad's competition still stinks?

you do care who wins you are clearly pro wlad

Wow. I missed this post! Marbs, seriously...?

you missed which post?