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    Default Re: Haye has shocking stamina

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    Haye doesnt even train for endurance no long runs, he trains more like a sprinter if anything, short sharp explosive work
    Which is a proven method of improving cardio vascular endurence.

    Doing 45 minutes of sprinting is better for your endurence than a 45 minute 5 mile job at moderate pace. FACT!
    who does 45 minutes of sprinting though ?

    lets chuck usain bolt in for the 1500m .... actually why not the marathon then if sprinting is so good for your endurance


    I'm willing to bet athletes like david haye do.

    Shall I educate you a bit?

    I'm starting to train for the great north run (UK half marathon) Whilst I will train for the event with long runs a massive part of my training will be sprint training as it strengthens the heart and lungs so well. I do this because it's how I've trained for past long distance runs. I was told to train this way by at least two runners who compete at club level.

    What Usain Bolt and the 1500 mters has to do with this I'm not sure. I think it's as daft a comment as saying all boxers would clean up in MMA. Usain has been asked in the passed why he wouldn't do a longer distance and his reply was 'it's too painful because of the lactic acid build up.'

    I have no doubt in my mind that bolt can run 1500m but I doubt he can do it faster than the competition in that event. The question here is stamina not speed.

    Broken down into simple terms for you.

    Bolt runs the 100m so he trains for the 100m

    A 1500 meter athlete runs 1500m so trains for 1500m (which I have no doubt does include plenty of sprint training)

    David Haye is a boxer so trains for boxing, which is bursts of energy for 3minutes with 12 1 minute breaks, which adds up to 48 minutes. So I'm not surprised his running drills would reflect it.

    Are you really dumb enough to think you know more about how to train for a fight then a world heavyweight champion, who has one of the best physiques in world boxing and his team?
    and why are training for the 100m and 1500m so different if everything can be solved with sprinting

    i guess all those guys with much better stamina than haye are idiots too doing all that running when some simple sprints would have sorted them out

    Haye's stamina was shit and now it's actually pretty fucking good since he started doing the sprinting.

    You're a prat mate, and you don't understand training so I can't be arsed to talk to you anymore. I've given you the info and the reasoning if you're too dumb to understand so be it.

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    Default Re: Haye has shocking stamina

    He was still going strong in the 7th against Mormeck and didn't look tired at all - this was after being dropped on the mat. He came back and dropped some crunching body shots on mormeck.

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    Default Re: Haye has shocking stamina

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    Haye doesnt even train for endurance no long runs, he trains more like a sprinter if anything, short sharp explosive work
    Which is a proven method of improving cardio vascular endurence.

    Doing 45 minutes of sprinting is better for your endurence than a 45 minute 5 mile job at moderate pace. FACT!
    who does 45 minutes of sprinting though ?

    lets chuck usain bolt in for the 1500m .... actually why not the marathon then if sprinting is so good for your endurance


    I'm willing to bet athletes like david haye do.

    Shall I educate you a bit?

    I'm starting to train for the great north run (UK half marathon) Whilst I will train for the event with long runs a massive part of my training will be sprint training as it strengthens the heart and lungs so well. I do this because it's how I've trained for past long distance runs. I was told to train this way by at least two runners who compete at club level.

    What Usain Bolt and the 1500 mters has to do with this I'm not sure. I think it's as daft a comment as saying all boxers would clean up in MMA. Usain has been asked in the passed why he wouldn't do a longer distance and his reply was 'it's too painful because of the lactic acid build up.'

    I have no doubt in my mind that bolt can run 1500m but I doubt he can do it faster than the competition in that event. The question here is stamina not speed.

    Broken down into simple terms for you.

    Bolt runs the 100m so he trains for the 100m

    A 1500 meter athlete runs 1500m so trains for 1500m (which I have no doubt does include plenty of sprint training)

    David Haye is a boxer so trains for boxing, which is bursts of energy for 3minutes with 12 1 minute breaks, which adds up to 48 minutes. So I'm not surprised his running drills would reflect it.

    Are you really dumb enough to think you know more about how to train for a fight then a world heavyweight champion, who has one of the best physiques in world boxing and his team?
    and why are training for the 100m and 1500m so different if everything can be solved with sprinting

    i guess all those guys with much better stamina than haye are idiots too doing all that running when some simple sprints would have sorted them out

    Haye's stamina was shit and now it's actually pretty fucking good since he started doing the sprinting.

    You're a prat mate, and you don't understand training so I can't be arsed to talk to you anymore. I've given you the info and the reasoning if you're too dumb to understand so be it.

    yeah its got so good he can throw 13 punches a round against valuev

    you havent really given info really youve just peddled out some 2nd hand s**t that youve been told yourself and then assumed Haye knows it all because of his physique .... come to think of it didnt Bruno have poor stamina too ... and his physique was better than Hayes

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    Default Re: Haye has shocking stamina

    The 13 punches a round against Valuev is still shocking to me. Old man, Holyfield, was more active, in boxing Valuev. Of course, Holyfield was boxing and moving, but not scared shitless of getting hit by the lumbering giant. Haye was for a high percentage of the fight.

    Haye doesn't have great stamina. But guess what? Wlad's stamina is not his strength either. He has improved with the style he has used for the past half decade (jab, right hand, hold in close), as it keeps him from getting hit (and he relaxes a bit more).

    Neither man has a great chin.

    I think Wlad's length and jab is going to be the key. If he lands it (which I think he will), then Haye is going to struggle mightily. He doesn't have the chin to take that jab (and the follow-up right hand after Wlad gets comfortable).

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    Default Re: Haye has shocking stamina

    Quote Originally Posted by hitmanhatton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hornfinger View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by hitmanhatton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hornfinger View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hitmanhatton View Post
    Haye doesnt even train for endurance no long runs, he trains more like a sprinter if anything, short sharp explosive work
    Which is a proven method of improving cardio vascular endurence.

    Doing 45 minutes of sprinting is better for your endurence than a 45 minute 5 mile job at moderate pace. FACT!
    who does 45 minutes of sprinting though ?

    lets chuck usain bolt in for the 1500m .... actually why not the marathon then if sprinting is so good for your endurance


    I'm willing to bet athletes like david haye do.

    Shall I educate you a bit?

    I'm starting to train for the great north run (UK half marathon) Whilst I will train for the event with long runs a massive part of my training will be sprint training as it strengthens the heart and lungs so well. I do this because it's how I've trained for past long distance runs. I was told to train this way by at least two runners who compete at club level.

    What Usain Bolt and the 1500 mters has to do with this I'm not sure. I think it's as daft a comment as saying all boxers would clean up in MMA. Usain has been asked in the passed why he wouldn't do a longer distance and his reply was 'it's too painful because of the lactic acid build up.'

    I have no doubt in my mind that bolt can run 1500m but I doubt he can do it faster than the competition in that event. The question here is stamina not speed.

    Broken down into simple terms for you.

    Bolt runs the 100m so he trains for the 100m

    A 1500 meter athlete runs 1500m so trains for 1500m (which I have no doubt does include plenty of sprint training)

    David Haye is a boxer so trains for boxing, which is bursts of energy for 3minutes with 12 1 minute breaks, which adds up to 48 minutes. So I'm not surprised his running drills would reflect it.

    Are you really dumb enough to think you know more about how to train for a fight then a world heavyweight champion, who has one of the best physiques in world boxing and his team?
    and why are training for the 100m and 1500m so different if everything can be solved with sprinting

    i guess all those guys with much better stamina than haye are idiots too doing all that running when some simple sprints would have sorted them out

    Haye's stamina was shit and now it's actually pretty fucking good since he started doing the sprinting.

    You're a prat mate, and you don't understand training so I can't be arsed to talk to you anymore. I've given you the info and the reasoning if you're too dumb to understand so be it.

    yeah its got so good he can throw 13 punches a round against valuev

    you havent really given info really youve just peddled out some 2nd hand s**t that youve been told yourself and then assumed Haye knows it all because of his physique .... come to think of it didnt Bruno have poor stamina too ... and his physique was better than Hayes
    Why aren't you training boxers.

    It's obvious you know more than the proffesionals that have won titles for a living.

    You joke.

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