Would Lennox Stand a chance if he made a comeback at 45?

[AdamGB]

In his prime he'd smash Wlad with ease.

Foreman's chin was titanium. Lennox's was, ahem, not.

If you think lewis' jaw was glass then you must know less about boxing than I thought.

[marbleheadmaui]

In his prime he'd smash Wlad with ease.

Foreman's chin was titanium. Lennox's was, ahem, not.

If you think lewis' jaw was glass then you must know less about boxing than I thought.

Lewis was knocked out by two different journeymen while in his prime. I can't think of another heavyweight one might argue is great of whom that is true. Can you?

[brocktonblockbust]

If you think lewis' jaw was glass then you must know less about boxing than I thought.

So you think Lewis' chin was like Tyson's, or Holyfield's, or Bowe's, or Foreman's, or Ali's, or Frazier's, or Quarry's, or Holmes', or Lyle's? WHICH ONE OF THOSE WAS SMOKED BY 2 BUMS IN HIS PRIME? Was Ali smoked in '71 by Frazier's left hook in the 15th round? Was Lyle smoked by a prime Foreman's scores and scores of clubbing shots? Was Frazier smoked by any single shot by Foreman? Was Bowe smoked by any of Holyfield's bombs?

Lennox Lewis would have been smoked by that Frazier left hook in the 15th round in 1971. Lennox Lewis would have been smoked by ONE of Foreman's bombs against Frazier. Lennox Lewis would have been smoked by ONE of Earnie Shavers' overhand rights that floored Holmes and he got up at 7 and almost won the round with 2 minutes left. etc....

ADAMGB IS SMOKING SOME FUNNY SHIT.

[Nameless]

It has bad idea written all over but I can understand the potential excitement linked to such comeback. As it has been mentioned, the chin issue (compared to Foreman) is quite a bit issue here and I am not sure that Lewis was living a Hopkins spartan life so to speak. It could have been "possible" and interesting up to 3-4 years ago but now it's definitely too late for that.

[AdamGB]

If you think lewis' jaw was glass then you must know less about boxing than I thought.

So you think Lewis' chin was like Tyson's, or Holyfield's, or Bowe's, or Foreman's, or Ali's, or Frazier's, or Quarry's, or Holmes', or Lyle's? WHICH ONE OF THOSE WAS SMOKED BY 2 BUMS IN HIS PRIME? Was Ali smoked in '71 by Frazier's left hook in the 15th round? Was Lyle smoked by a prime Foreman's scores and scores of clubbing shots? Was Frazier smoked by any single shot by Foreman? Was Bowe smoked by any of Holyfield's bombs?

Lennox Lewis would have been smoked by that Frazier left hook in the 15th round in 1971. Lennox Lewis would have been smoked by ONE of Foreman's bombs against Frazier. Lennox Lewis would have been smoked by ONE of Earnie Shavers' overhand rights that floored Holmes and he got up at 7 and almost won the round with 2 minutes left. etc....

ADAMGB IS SMOKING SOME FUNNY SHIT.

This is Heavy Weight boxing... Anybody can be dropped. You don't do what Lewis did with a glass jaw. Please show me where I said that Lewis' chin was granite or one of the divisions best.

What? You can't? Because all I said was that it wasn't glass.

It seems that some people here only work in absolutes and need to learn what a 'middle ground' is before they get excited and type redundant crap.

[Fenster]

In his prime he'd smash Wlad with ease.

Foreman's chin was titanium. Lennox's was, ahem, not.

If you think lewis' jaw was glass then you must know less about boxing than I thought.

Lewis was knocked out by two different journeymen while in his prime. I can't think of another heavyweight one might argue is great of whom that is true. Can you?

Journeymen?

So Rahman is a top contender when you're dealing with Wlad but a journeyman for Lewis? Funny.

[BIG H]

In his prime he'd smash Wlad with ease.

Foreman's chin was titanium. Lennox's was, ahem, not.

If you think lewis' jaw was glass then you must know less about boxing than I thought.

Lewis was knocked out by two different journeymen while in his prime. I can't think of another heavyweight one might argue is great of whom that is true. Can you?

Journeymen?

So Rahman is a top contender when you're dealing with Wlad but a journeyman for Lewis? Funny.

Laughable innit. A 34-2 journeyman

[Mctaggert]

I think the biggest problem for Lennox would be his speed, at 45 you'd got to think his jab and over hand right would be dead slow. He was showing signs of it vs Vitali, but Lewis was badly out of shape for that one. Although looking at Lennox, he looks fresh as a daisy! What's so exciting is that with his hight and reach, he would not have to leap in with punches against Wlad. He can throw bombs over the top, it can be an even fight for a change as far as size.

I think the current state of the heavyweight devision upsets Lennox, he's coming to more and more fights, it's clear part of him wants to come back so badly.

[AdamGB]

Instead of treating boxing like fantasy football/top trumps he should actually watch the fights and his knowledge of boxing to assess what he's seeing.

He took two massive shots from two strong 240-250lb guys... Not exactly love taps

If your chin takes 250lbs on the chin I don't think it cares what the guys record or skill level

Its boxing, not top trumps... The issue wasn't a glass jaw, it was that he got lazy and got caught when he shouldn't of.

[marbleheadmaui]

Instead of treating boxing like fantasy football/top trumps he should actually watch the fights and his knowledge of boxing to assess what he's seeing.

He took two massive shots from two strong 240-250lb guys... Not exactly love taps

If your chin takes 250lbs on the chin I don't think it cares what the guys record or skill level

Its boxing, not top trumps... The issue wasn't a glass jaw, it was that he got lazy and got caught when he shouldn't of.

Can't answer the question huh?

[AdamGB]

Instead of treating boxing like fantasy football/top trumps he should actually watch the fights and his knowledge of boxing to assess what he's seeing.

He took two massive shots from two strong 240-250lb guys... Not exactly love taps

If your chin takes 250lbs on the chin I don't think it cares what the guys record or skill level

Its boxing, not top trumps... The issue wasn't a glass jaw, it was that he got lazy and got caught when he shouldn't of.

Can't answer the question huh?

Your response to my post is even more redundant than your question was. Didn't and can't are two different things.

[AdamGB]

Instead of treating boxing like fantasy football/top trumps he should actually watch the fights and his knowledge of boxing to assess what he's seeing.

He took two massive shots from two strong 240-250lb guys... Not exactly love taps

If your chin takes 250lbs on the chin I don't think it cares what the guys record or skill level

Its boxing, not top trumps... The issue wasn't a glass jaw, it was that he got lazy and got caught when he shouldn't of.

Can't answer the question huh?

Your response to my post is even more redundant than your question was. Didn't and can't are two different things.

[marbleheadmaui]

In his prime he'd smash Wlad with ease.

Foreman's chin was titanium. Lennox's was, ahem, not.

If you think lewis' jaw was glass then you must know less about boxing than I thought.

Lewis was knocked out by two different journeymen while in his prime. I can't think of another heavyweight one might argue is great of whom that is true. Can you?

Journeymen?

So Rahman is a top contender when you're dealing with Wlad but a journeyman for Lewis? Funny.

Laughable innit. A 34-2 journeyman

LOL, 34-2 tells you something? So Chavez jr must be a legend at what 44-0? Records without context mean nothing. His biggest win going in was who exactly? Sanders? He'd been drilled by both Tua and Maskaev before that fight. Rahman is a journeyman.

[Spicoli]

In his prime he'd smash Wlad with ease.

Foreman's chin was titanium. Lennox's was, ahem, not.

If you think lewis' jaw was glass then you must know less about boxing than I thought.

Lewis was knocked out by two different journeymen while in his prime. I can't think of another heavyweight one might argue is great of whom that is true. Can you?

Journeymen?

So Rahman is a top contender when you're dealing with Wlad but a journeyman for Lewis? Funny.

Laughable innit. A 34-2 journeyman

LOL, 34-2 tells you something? So Chavez jr must be a legend at what 44-0? Records without context mean nothing. His biggest win going in was who exactly? Sanders? He'd been drilled by both Tua and Maskaev before that fight. Rahman is a journeyman.

I've had serious probs with Rahman in a couple but as you say records needs proper context. That Tua loss was far from clean and though excuses are like A-holes he was doing very well in both bouts before he was caught with bricks outta a dark alley. In no fashion was he then getting pasted like a journeyman? Ring mag had him ranked in top 10, that used to mean something.

I think Lewis looking at him as just a journeyman and taking things for granted helped contribute to him staring at the lights.

[tysonesque]

I think it is a bit harsh to call Rahman a journeyman, although it probably does apply to McCall.

The fact that Lewis was knocked cold by a couple of mediocre fighters does mean he was slightly vulnerable and probably didn't have the best chin the world has ever seen, but I don't see how anyone can say he had a glass jaw.

At the end of the day he avenged his defeats and he retired at the top, which sets him apart from a lot of the great heavyweight champions.

Lewis is unfortunate that he wasn't around when Tyson was in his prime. By the time he got hold of Tyson, Mike was way past his best, overweight and clearly not all that interested anymore. He also met Holyfield on the way down and never fought Bowe either. He was kind of in the right place at the right time and I think that is why some people don't give him the credit he deserves.

I would love to have seen him take on a prime Tyson, Holyfield or Bowe. I think he could have beaten Holyfield and Bowe, but I'm not so sure about a prime Tyson. I think Mike might have been too quick for him.