Would Lennox Stand a chance if he made a comeback at 45?

[BIG H]

In his prime he'd smash Wlad with ease.

Foreman's chin was titanium. Lennox's was, ahem, not.

If you think lewis' jaw was glass then you must know less about boxing than I thought.

Lewis was knocked out by two different journeymen while in his prime. I can't think of another heavyweight one might argue is great of whom that is true. Can you?

Journeymen?

So Rahman is a top contender when you're dealing with Wlad but a journeyman for Lewis? Funny.

Laughable innit. A 34-2 journeyman

[Mctaggert]

I think the biggest problem for Lennox would be his speed, at 45 you'd got to think his jab and over hand right would be dead slow. He was showing signs of it vs Vitali, but Lewis was badly out of shape for that one. Although looking at Lennox, he looks fresh as a daisy! What's so exciting is that with his hight and reach, he would not have to leap in with punches against Wlad. He can throw bombs over the top, it can be an even fight for a change as far as size.

I think the current state of the heavyweight devision upsets Lennox, he's coming to more and more fights, it's clear part of him wants to come back so badly.

[AdamGB]

Instead of treating boxing like fantasy football/top trumps he should actually watch the fights and his knowledge of boxing to assess what he's seeing.

He took two massive shots from two strong 240-250lb guys... Not exactly love taps

If your chin takes 250lbs on the chin I don't think it cares what the guys record or skill level

Its boxing, not top trumps... The issue wasn't a glass jaw, it was that he got lazy and got caught when he shouldn't of.

[marbleheadmaui]

Instead of treating boxing like fantasy football/top trumps he should actually watch the fights and his knowledge of boxing to assess what he's seeing.

He took two massive shots from two strong 240-250lb guys... Not exactly love taps

If your chin takes 250lbs on the chin I don't think it cares what the guys record or skill level

Its boxing, not top trumps... The issue wasn't a glass jaw, it was that he got lazy and got caught when he shouldn't of.

Can't answer the question huh?

[AdamGB]

Instead of treating boxing like fantasy football/top trumps he should actually watch the fights and his knowledge of boxing to assess what he's seeing.

He took two massive shots from two strong 240-250lb guys... Not exactly love taps

If your chin takes 250lbs on the chin I don't think it cares what the guys record or skill level

Its boxing, not top trumps... The issue wasn't a glass jaw, it was that he got lazy and got caught when he shouldn't of.

Can't answer the question huh?

Your response to my post is even more redundant than your question was. Didn't and can't are two different things.

[marbleheadmaui]

Instead of treating boxing like fantasy football/top trumps he should actually watch the fights and his knowledge of boxing to assess what he's seeing.

He took two massive shots from two strong 240-250lb guys... Not exactly love taps

If your chin takes 250lbs on the chin I don't think it cares what the guys record or skill level

Its boxing, not top trumps... The issue wasn't a glass jaw, it was that he got lazy and got caught when he shouldn't of.

Can't answer the question huh?

Your response to my post is even more redundant than your question was. Didn't and can't are two different things.

LOL, not in this case it isn't

[AdamGB]

Instead of treating boxing like fantasy football/top trumps he should actually watch the fights and his knowledge of boxing to assess what he's seeing.

He took two massive shots from two strong 240-250lb guys... Not exactly love taps

If your chin takes 250lbs on the chin I don't think it cares what the guys record or skill level

Its boxing, not top trumps... The issue wasn't a glass jaw, it was that he got lazy and got caught when he shouldn't of.

Can't answer the question huh?

Your response to my post is even more redundant than your question was. Didn't and can't are two different things.

[marbleheadmaui]

Instead of treating boxing like fantasy football/top trumps he should actually watch the fights and his knowledge of boxing to assess what he's seeing.

He took two massive shots from two strong 240-250lb guys... Not exactly love taps

If your chin takes 250lbs on the chin I don't think it cares what the guys record or skill level

Its boxing, not top trumps... The issue wasn't a glass jaw, it was that he got lazy and got caught when he shouldn't of.

Can't answer the question huh?

Your response to my post is even more redundant than your question was. Didn't and can't are two different things.

Not in this case

[AdamGB]

I'd wager that both guys hit harder and were better rated than Sonny banks... But you'd have to ask Ali and his well known glass jaw about that.

But I digress... Rather than playing your silly top trumps/trivia game I'm just going to repeat myself and advise you to watch Lewis' knock downs and tell me if he was hit with love taps or huge heavyweight punches that landed right on the money?

[marbleheadmaui]

In his prime he'd smash Wlad with ease.

Foreman's chin was titanium. Lennox's was, ahem, not.

If you think lewis' jaw was glass then you must know less about boxing than I thought.

Lewis was knocked out by two different journeymen while in his prime. I can't think of another heavyweight one might argue is great of whom that is true. Can you?

Journeymen?

So Rahman is a top contender when you're dealing with Wlad but a journeyman for Lewis? Funny.

Laughable innit. A 34-2 journeyman

LOL, 34-2 tells you something? So Chavez jr must be a legend at what 44-0? Records without context mean nothing. His biggest win going in was who exactly? Sanders? He'd been drilled by both Tua and Maskaev before that fight. Rahman is a journeyman.

[Spicoli]

In his prime he'd smash Wlad with ease.

Foreman's chin was titanium. Lennox's was, ahem, not.

If you think lewis' jaw was glass then you must know less about boxing than I thought.

Lewis was knocked out by two different journeymen while in his prime. I can't think of another heavyweight one might argue is great of whom that is true. Can you?

Journeymen?

So Rahman is a top contender when you're dealing with Wlad but a journeyman for Lewis? Funny.

Laughable innit. A 34-2 journeyman

LOL, 34-2 tells you something? So Chavez jr must be a legend at what 44-0? Records without context mean nothing. His biggest win going in was who exactly? Sanders? He'd been drilled by both Tua and Maskaev before that fight. Rahman is a journeyman.

I've had serious probs with Rahman in a couple but as you say records needs proper context. That Tua loss was far from clean and though excuses are like A-holes he was doing very well in both bouts before he was caught with bricks outta a dark alley. In no fashion was he then getting pasted like a journeyman? Ring mag had him ranked in top 10, that used to mean something.

I think Lewis looking at him as just a journeyman and taking things for granted helped contribute to him staring at the lights.

[tysonesque]

I think it is a bit harsh to call Rahman a journeyman, although it probably does apply to McCall.

The fact that Lewis was knocked cold by a couple of mediocre fighters does mean he was slightly vulnerable and probably didn't have the best chin the world has ever seen, but I don't see how anyone can say he had a glass jaw.

At the end of the day he avenged his defeats and he retired at the top, which sets him apart from a lot of the great heavyweight champions.

Lewis is unfortunate that he wasn't around when Tyson was in his prime. By the time he got hold of Tyson, Mike was way past his best, overweight and clearly not all that interested anymore. He also met Holyfield on the way down and never fought Bowe either. He was kind of in the right place at the right time and I think that is why some people don't give him the credit he deserves.

I would love to have seen him take on a prime Tyson, Holyfield or Bowe. I think he could have beaten Holyfield and Bowe, but I'm not so sure about a prime Tyson. I think Mike might have been too quick for him.

[BIG H]

In his prime he'd smash Wlad with ease.

Foreman's chin was titanium. Lennox's was, ahem, not.

If you think lewis' jaw was glass then you must know less about boxing than I thought.

Lewis was knocked out by two different journeymen while in his prime. I can't think of another heavyweight one might argue is great of whom that is true. Can you?

Journeymen?

So Rahman is a top contender when you're dealing with Wlad but a journeyman for Lewis? Funny.

Laughable innit. A 34-2 journeyman

LOL, 34-2 tells you something? So Chavez jr must be a legend at what 44-0? Records without context mean nothing. His biggest win going in was who exactly? Sanders? He'd been drilled by both Tua and Maskaev before that fight. Rahman is a journeyman.

He was beating both Tua and Maskaev before being stopped, but regardless, losing to those 2 does not make you a journeyman. Beating Corrie Sanders (who levelled Wlad) does not make you a journeyman.

So was JCC a journeyman at 44-0. Not being alegend and being a journeyman are not even in the same ball park. Journeyman do not get to 34-2

[marbleheadmaui]

In his prime he'd smash Wlad with ease.

Foreman's chin was titanium. Lennox's was, ahem, not.

If you think lewis' jaw was glass then you must know less about boxing than I thought.

Lewis was knocked out by two different journeymen while in his prime. I can't think of another heavyweight one might argue is great of whom that is true. Can you?

Journeymen?

So Rahman is a top contender when you're dealing with Wlad but a journeyman for Lewis? Funny.

Laughable innit. A 34-2 journeyman

LOL, 34-2 tells you something? So Chavez jr must be a legend at what 44-0? Records without context mean nothing. His biggest win going in was who exactly? Sanders? He'd been drilled by both Tua and Maskaev before that fight. Rahman is a journeyman.

He was beating both Tua and Maskaev before being stopped, but regardless, losing to those 2 does not make you a journeyman. Beating Corrie Sanders (who levelled Wlad) does not make you a journeyman.

So was JCC a journeyman at 44-0. Not being alegend and being a journeyman are not even in the same ball park. Journeyman do not get to 34-2

Chavez jr has! Marco Rubio was 34-2-1 at one point. The sport's history is LOADED with guys who started out like that and then fizzled at the top level and went into declines.

[El Kabong]

Wlad and Lennox are a lot alike. Sure Lennox had better talent to test himself against, but Wlad has fought everyone he can and beaten them. Both men took their eyes off the prize at a few points in their careers, but they regrouped and were better fighters because of their losses.

But if were talking about Lennox coming back at 45 and fighting Wlad or Vitali. I just don't give him a good chance because he's been retired for so long and hell the guy retired on top he's not coming back, why worry about it?

Lennox was a great fighter but he's retired now and he'll stay that way. Wlad is in his prime, he's going to be around for a few more years I think boxing fans should try to show him some respect.