So Where Does Wlad Go From Here?

[El Kabong]

How many wins do you think Wlad retires with? Over 60?

[marbleheadmaui]

How many wins do you think Wlad retires with? Over 60?

If Vitali tells us anything about Wlad's DNA he should be able to perform at a high level for another three years anyway. That's what? 6 fights? Sounds like 60-61 or so.

He'll end up with the same kind of win number as Baer, Tunney, Holmes, Louis and Dempsey (what are recorded fights anyway). Behind guys like Ezzard and Foreman and ahead of guys like Ali, Patterson, Schmeling and Tyson.

I dunno what it means though.

[captainanddew]

Wlad should fight more often. I think he would be sharper if he fought every 3-4 months (as he used to do).

Especially with the caliber of opponents out there. If you beat 6 guys in say 20 months, you get alot more credit than beating 3 of those guys over the same time period.

He can't build his legacy on great opponents, so he should just mow everyone down he can.

[marbleheadmaui]

Wlad should fight more often. I think he would be sharper if he fought every 3-4 months (as he used to do).

Especially with the caliber of opponents out there. If you beat 6 guys in say 20 months, you get alot more credit than beating 3 of those guys over the same time period.

He can't build his legacy on great opponents, so he should just mow everyone down he can.

Yup. He could likely get nine fights in three years. If he did that? He likely beats everyone and will have mowed down the division. Then even his harshest critics will have to concede that while he may not be a great fighter, he was a great champion.

I wonder about Helenius though. Sort of smells like he might have the goods a few fights down the line.

[armin]

I don't know about helenius, he needs to vastly improve. Granted I seen one full fight and some highlights on youtube so what I'm basing my opinion on is very limited. He doesn't seem active enough, kind of plodding and no head movement, target practice for wlad in my mind right now.

[marbleheadmaui]

I don't know about helenius, he needs to vastly improve. Granted I seen one full fight and some highlights on youtube so what I'm basing my opinion on is very limited. He doesn't seem active enough, kind of plodding and no head movement, target practice for wlad in my mind right now.

Yup. But I wonder two years down the line. I mean if you were trying to craft a fighter to beat Wlad you'd go one of two ways. A bob and weave, highly active, endless gas tank, good chin, good punch, huge heart (think Joe Frazier) or you'd go with a long, tall guy who can punch and who can take one (think a 6'4+ Big George). Can Helenius be that latter guy?