oh I get it ADAMGB. So the alltime great Hasim Rahman and Oliver McCall have some kind of DY-NO-MIIIIITE!!!!! in their punches that floored Lummox for a 10 count, cold-cocked, out of this world KTFO, yet Smokin Joe, Big George, Earnie the Acorn just couldnt manage to land such hard shots against Ali, Holmes, etc... and thats why Frazier and Ali and Holmes and Lyle etc could keep getting up.
BUT OH, ALI WOULDNT HAVE GOTTEN UP, NOR HOLMES, NOR FRAZIER, HAD THAT ALLTIME GREAT PUNCHER OLIVER OR HASIM LANDED THOSE SHOTS.