Haye - Say's I talked the talk, but I didn't walk the walk!!

[JazMerkin]

Listening to thet way he speaks on it I don't think he believes he can actually beat him. He banked self entirely on a ko punch with zero else to fall back on, like I said before the fight he looks "shook", un nerved. Almost sounds like he's very real about that Oct. retirement and just wants to cash out big?!

He definitely believes he can beat him. Haye has complete arrogance & self-confidence. He probably still can't quite work out how it's happened. Every other loss in his amateur & pro career could be rationalized away in his own mind, other than a toe, he's got nothing for this one to get away from the fact he was in with a better boxer.

Thats it though,aside from relying on a sharp tongue and a potent punch he's really set himself up for the downfall. Your right yeh, he really does come off as having no rationalization. His arrogance undermines self confidence...I just don't know if a guy can have both really.

Most successful boxers don't rationalize defeat though. You need that self-confidence & touch of arrogance to compete. Just a few weeks ago one of my team-mates seriously said that he thinks he could beat George Groves. This is a guy with just under 20 fights as an amateur.

Haye may have set himself up for a downfall, but he genuinely believed that he could win this fight or he wouldn't have said all of it. I'll say that I found his performance far less offensive than Hatton's against Pacquiao, which consisted of abandoning all he'd learnt since the age of 12 to charge around like a pub drunk.

I will say one thing, I think it's extremely unfair to expect fighters to say anything rational or clear immediately after a fight. They've just been getting hit, so of course they're going to be a bit all over the place. I know that if someone shoved a camera & microphone into my face after 3 rounds of an am fight, they'd probably get all sorts of incoherent bollocks.