Fixed Fights?

[ICB]

Mike Tyson vs Bruce Seldon was very iffy.

[Andre]

Combined effort and even two judges families could make hundreds of thousands!

Thats a bit far fetched but you can bet its been tried out to a degree.

Imagine the mob giving you as a judge an offer you cant refuse,it could account for some of those unbelievable scores.

[marbleheadmaui]

Combined effort and even two judges families could make hundreds of thousands!

Thats a bit far fetched but you can bet its been tried out to a degree.

Imagine the mob giving you as a judge an offer you cant refuse,it could account for some of those unbelievable scores.

Tru but Fenster makes a good point on the difficulties making money with it today.

[Spicoli]

I dont think they are so rampantly fixed today as they are pre determined and geared towards a sure fire outcome...stacked. Ever see some of these matches in Thailand and on God knows how many untelivised (or in the case of Deontay Wilder ) undercard shows? We all have visions of smoke filled back rooms and plain white envelopes under the table when its widely shoved in the fans faces. You don't need to fix a fight to get away with highway robbery. Guys 'except' their roles, boxings fodder fo the masses as journeymen padders are the early lifeblood of the sport. I know, a bit jaded.

[Mars_ax]

Fixed fights? The U.S. Mob in the 40's 50's 60's comes to mind, and of course, the one the only Don King!

[marbleheadmaui]

I dont think they are so rampantly fixed today as they are pre determined and geared towards a sure fire outcome...stacked. Ever see some of these matches in Thailand and on God knows how many untelivised (or in the case of Deontay Wilder ) undercard shows? We all have visions of smoke filled back rooms and plain white envelopes under the table when its widely shoved in the fans faces. You don't need to fix a fight to get away with highway robbery. Guys 'except' their roles, boxings fodder fo the masses as journeymen padders are the early lifeblood of the sport. I know, a bit jaded.

I'm not sure that has EVER been more common than it is today.

There really were for decades and decades a whole bunch of fighters in each division who could really compete with, not beat very often, but compete with the top guys. Now the gap between the really top guys and the next level seems mismatch-wide.

[Violent Demise]

Mike Tyson vs Bruce Seldon was very iffy.

The outcome in that fight was due more to fear (Seldon) than it being fixed

[Mattyhitman]

Harrison v Haye was very dubious

[AdamGB]

Don't think it was fixed... I do think it was a complete mismatch and that Haye could have done what he did in the third round from the opening second of the fight.

He foolishly said at the end of the fight that he told all of his friends to stick money on Haye in the third and look what happens.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

I'm sure there are many judges and doctors that are on the payroll, but that's a whole different topic.

What about the recent Briggs/ Green fight

[Fenster]

There's a huge difference between a fighter going down "easy" (quitting) and one that is intentionally taking a dive.

Those old fighters were taking dives for big money, which was clearly funded by the mobsters conning the bookies.

LaMotta was offered $100,000 for that Fox dive. Consider his purse was just $20,000, you can see the incentive for these old timers (although obviously in LaMotta's case he was desperate for a title shot). The gangsters were clearly making a killing.

[jon09]

Bernard Hopkins vs Oscar de la hoya. To this day I really think this fight was fixed and they made alot of money off each other. It was Hopkins last knockout of an opponent; The fact that in between rounds 8 and 9 he (Hopkins) was saying that it was his round, something he has never done before and people screaming body shot right before he threw that soft left hook to the liver with the palm of his glove. Plus Oscar looked horrible in his fight with Sturm but somehow managed to keep it close up until the knockout punch.

[erics44]

Judges fix fights all the time in every country

the english moan about the germans or the italians fixing it for their fighters but its fixed in our country too

(sorry about the spelling in advance)

john simpson v stephen smith twice
shaun hughes v billy coccran
tyson fury v john macdermot
danny williams v joh macdermott
tom dallas v that american fella

and those are just off the top of my head, give me an hour and ill think of 10 more

i reckon these are examples of fights fixed because it's "better for boxing", they were either fixed or the judges were so caught up in hype and bias that they should never judge again