Pacquiao 'agrees to Mayweather's demands'

[Majesty]

Maybe this is a counter-demand If you think about it PBF's claiming for a USADA drug testing is not warranted to begin with since there already exist a state athletic commission giving an existing test. Now it's the Olympic Organization that might be giving out these tests definitely an unbiased playing field is set out. If somebody complains again then I don't know what type of flat out cowardice that is. Just an opinion from a Pactard.

I may be wrong, but my understanding is that USADA are the Olympic designated authority for the United States through WADA. I actually believe that it's Arum who is responsible for this fight not being seen, having read through the timeline of the first round of negotiations. I would put 80% of the blame on him & 10% each on Floyd & Manny. Stupid old bastard

USADA is an independent organization not directly affiliated with any governmental organization which is why congress gave them the authority for testing US competing athletes. The purpose of not using the USOC for administering the testing is an attempt to deter cover ups from happening.

The problem with them is that they do not report (i.e. are not held accountable) to any governmental agency. They also have to produce results or the appearance of results in order to be awarded federal grant money which in itself is a conflict of interest. (We are talking about money in millions that they supposedly can spend however they want) The only connection between WADA and USADA is the list of banned substances and standards by which they test.

In the US typically the systems are setup so there is checks and balances between agencies. No one agency is given all the power. USADA is responsible for checking the athlete and prosecuting the athlete. This is a very bad idea under the US system of government because it leaves the door open to corruption. In USADA case one obvious problem is having to justify their existence which means they will unjustly seek out high profile athletes to prosecute because it will give them more visibility. Case:Lance Armstrong.

You guys have to remember Arum is a Lawyer and understands the rules far and the impact of changing a criteria better than most. It would be better of reporters would question Arums motives rather than jump to conclusions about why he hold a particular position.

Only person that Mayweather's fighting that's got a problem with the drug testing is Arum's people. Mosley did it, Ortiz is gonna do it, what the heck is their problem? Next thing you know Arum is gonna ask for only a specific amount of blood to be drained.

[Pavlik]

Maybe this is a counter-demand If you think about it PBF's claiming for a USADA drug testing is not warranted to begin with since there already exist a state athletic commission giving an existing test. Now it's the Olympic Organization that might be giving out these tests definitely an unbiased playing field is set out. If somebody complains again then I don't know what type of flat out cowardice that is. Just an opinion from a Pactard.

I may be wrong, but my understanding is that USADA are the Olympic designated authority for the United States through WADA. I actually believe that it's Arum who is responsible for this fight not being seen, having read through the timeline of the first round of negotiations. I would put 80% of the blame on him & 10% each on Floyd & Manny. Stupid old bastard

USADA is an independent organization not directly affiliated with any governmental organization which is why congress gave them the authority for testing US competing athletes. The purpose of not using the USOC for administering the testing is an attempt to deter cover ups from happening.

The problem with them is that they do not report (i.e. are not held accountable) to any governmental agency. They also have to produce results or the appearance of results in order to be awarded federal grant money which in itself is a conflict of interest. (We are talking about money in millions that they supposedly can spend however they want) The only connection between WADA and USADA is the list of banned substances and standards by which they test.

In the US typically the systems are setup so there is checks and balances between agencies. No one agency is given all the power. USADA is responsible for checking the athlete and prosecuting the athlete. This is a very bad idea under the US system of government because it leaves the door open to corruption. In USADA case one obvious problem is having to justify their existence which means they will unjustly seek out high profile athletes to prosecute because it will give them more visibility. Case:Lance Armstrong.

You guys have to remember Arum is a Lawyer and understands the rules far and the impact of changing a criteria better than most. It would be better of reporters would question Arums motives rather than jump to conclusions about why he hold a particular position.

Only person that Mayweather's fighting that's got a problem with the drug testing is Arum's people. Mosley did it, Ortiz is gonna do it, what the heck is their problem? Next thing you know Arum is gonna ask for only a specific amount of blood to be drained.

is it because maybe Mosley and Ortiz needs Mayweather more than it is Pacquiao needing Mayweather? Not dickriding but FanJohnny does make sense.

[TitoFan]

2008: How interesting a fight between Pac and Floyd would be!!
2009: They need to fight! What a mega-fight! I'd love to see it!!
2010: Why aren't they fighting already?!? What's the fukking holdup?
2011: Who give a shit?

[Althugz]

2008: How interesting a fight between Pac and Floyd would be!!
2009: They need to fight! What a mega-fight! I'd love to see it!!
2010: Why aren't they fighting already?!? What's the fukking holdup?
2011: Who give a shit?

Love people who pretend that they aren't interested in this fight anymore just to try and sound cool

Why is it that we never hear it from the horses mouth..when is Pacquiao gonna step up and say "I AM WILLING TO TAKE RANDOM DRUG TESTING". Why is it always Arum and Roach??

[JazMerkin]

Maybe this is a counter-demand If you think about it PBF's claiming for a USADA drug testing is not warranted to begin with since there already exist a state athletic commission giving an existing test. Now it's the Olympic Organization that might be giving out these tests definitely an unbiased playing field is set out. If somebody complains again then I don't know what type of flat out cowardice that is. Just an opinion from a Pactard.

I may be wrong, but my understanding is that USADA are the Olympic designated authority for the United States through WADA. I actually believe that it's Arum who is responsible for this fight not being seen, having read through the timeline of the first round of negotiations. I would put 80% of the blame on him & 10% each on Floyd & Manny. Stupid old bastard

USADA is an independent organization not directly affiliated with any governmental organization which is why congress gave them the authority for testing US competing athletes. The purpose of not using the USOC for administering the testing is an attempt to deter cover ups from happening.

The problem with them is that they do not report (i.e. are not held accountable) to any governmental agency. They also have to produce results or the appearance of results in order to be awarded federal grant money which in itself is a conflict of interest. (We are talking about money in millions that they supposedly can spend however they want) The only connection between WADA and USADA is the list of banned substances and standards by which they test.

In the US typically the systems are setup so there is checks and balances between agencies. No one agency is given all the power. USADA is responsible for checking the athlete and prosecuting the athlete. This is a very bad idea under the US system of government because it leaves the door open to corruption. In USADA case one obvious problem is having to justify their existence which means they will unjustly seek out high profile athletes to prosecute because it will give them more visibility. Case:Lance Armstrong.

You guys have to remember Arum is a Lawyer and understands the rules far and the impact of changing a criteria better than most. It would be better of reporters would question Arums motives rather than jump to conclusions about why he hold a particular position.

Only person that Mayweather's fighting that's got a problem with the drug testing is Arum's people. Mosley did it, Ortiz is gonna do it, what the heck is their problem? Next thing you know Arum is gonna ask for only a specific amount of blood to be drained.

is it because maybe Mosley and Ortiz needs Mayweather more than it is Pacquiao needing Mayweather? Not dickriding but FanJohnny does make sense.

I agree that Mosley & Ortiz need Floyd much more than Manny. But I don't agree with Fan Johnny's post, it's full of the kind of bizarre paranoia that in actuality makes no sense. Armstrong is being pursued because of the statements of his team-mates. I see no reason why they would actually try & get a positive test in this case. They've caught enough of a rash of track & field athletes & baseball players to not need to go looking. If WADA are willing to do it, then get them on board, but I fail to see the difference between them doing it & USADA doing it. The argument that USADA is corrupt is baseless. Also I believe WADA doing it means that they have to submit to being tested year-round, so whether they want to submit to that is something else.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

I fail to see how you can truly dispute the neutrality of an anti-doping organisation

Can anyone help me out here...? What is there to dispute? The fact that they might forge the results The fact that they aren't acting upon the requests of Mr. Arum himself? I don't get it.

[fan johnny]

I fail to see how you can truly dispute the neutrality of an anti-doping organisation

Can anyone help me out here...? What is there to dispute? The fact that they might forge the results The fact that they aren't acting upon the requests of Mr. Arum himself? I don't get it.

What request?

[Hornfinger]

I fail to see how you can truly dispute the neutrality of an anti-doping organisation

Can anyone help me out here...? What is there to dispute? The fact that they might forge the results The fact that they aren't acting upon the requests of Mr. Arum himself? I don't get it.

You can't dispute it, and that's why it's a completely bullshit arguement to keep pacroid away from testing and floyd mayweather.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

I fail to see how you can truly dispute the neutrality of an anti-doping organisation

Can anyone help me out here...? What is there to dispute? The fact that they might forge the results The fact that they aren't acting upon the requests of Mr. Arum himself? I don't get it.

What request?

"We have agreed in the Pacquiao camp to unlimited random testing done by a responsible, neutral organization," Arum told Yahoo. "We don't believe USADA is a neutral organization.

Tells you all you need to know

I fail to see how you can truly dispute the neutrality of an anti-doping organisation

Can anyone help me out here...? What is there to dispute? The fact that they might forge the results The fact that they aren't acting upon the requests of Mr. Arum himself? I don't get it.

You can't dispute it, and that's why it's a completely bullshit arguement to keep pacroid away from testing and floyd mayweather.

I have to be honest. I am now one of those who believe that it is Arum keeping this fight from happening.

[fan johnny]

I fail to see how you can truly dispute the neutrality of an anti-doping organisation

Can anyone help me out here...? What is there to dispute? The fact that they might forge the results The fact that they aren't acting upon the requests of Mr. Arum himself? I don't get it.

What request?

"We have agreed in the Pacquiao camp to unlimited random testing done by a responsible, neutral organization," Arum told Yahoo. "We don't believe USADA is a neutral organization.

Tells you all you need to know

I fail to see how you can truly dispute the neutrality of an anti-doping organisation

Can anyone help me out here...? What is there to dispute? The fact that they might forge the results The fact that they aren't acting upon the requests of Mr. Arum himself? I don't get it.

You can't dispute it, and that's why it's a completely bullshit arguement to keep pacroid away from testing and floyd mayweather.

I have to be honest. I am now one of those who believe that it is Arum keeping this fight from happening.

I know this sounds pretty anal but first off in their negotiations, the request is that of the Mayweather camp. NSAC is the governing authority for the anti-doping testing. I believe the news about Arums comments is his attempt to do future negotiations and public relations damage control due to Michael Konz comments.

I'm not sure what Arum's beef is with USADA but I've pointed out the obvious conflict of interest of using an organization that has everything to gain by using high profile athletes in order to get the attention it needs to show it is leading the fight on Anti-doping. Thus the organization gains more points toward getting their federal grant money renewed. There is also the possibility that that Arum objects to GBP's in its venture to gain control over 'boxing' has personal ties to Oscar. i.e. "travis tygart" is supposedly a golfing buddy of Oscar. If neither of these is Arum's problem is, I am with you.

If you bring in an outside agency to work with NSAC to do the additional requests by the Mayweather camp, there is no issue with political lobbing or personal ties that could promote corruption. Thus Arums term "neutral party".