Wow, that is a horrible decision

[Hulk]

People who cried robbery in the Matthysse, Maidana and Kotelnik fights are part of the problem. Those were close fights.

Now when a fight is literally stolen, like tonight? People dismiss it because they've heard the term "robbery" far too often.

I completely agree with this. I'm also wondering what fight Maidana was robbed in

I thought Matthysse won against Judah & lost to Alexander & Kotelnik just nicked it in St. Louis. However, I could see all of those going to the eventual winner & in one case I clearly did.

Tonight was a flat out disgrace & I can't believe there is no more anger over this. It's been a while since I heard the scorecards & genuinely believed for a short while that the announcer has accidentally read out the wrong guy.

Sorry but how the fuck did you have Matthysse WINNING against Judah and LOSING to Alexander ?

He put on a much more impressive performance against Alexander than he did against Judah.

And in my opinion if a fight is close in rounds, but still a CLEAR victory for one fighter and he doesn't get the decision, then its still a robbery.

If a guy clearly wins 7 rounds and there is no doubt about it, no bickering over those 7, and the judges end up giving it to the other guy, especially with a knockdown involved, then that is still a robbery.

[JazMerkin]

People who cried robbery in the Matthysse, Maidana and Kotelnik fights are part of the problem. Those were close fights.

Now when a fight is literally stolen, like tonight? People dismiss it because they've heard the term "robbery" far too often.

I completely agree with this. I'm also wondering what fight Maidana was robbed in

I thought Matthysse won against Judah & lost to Alexander & Kotelnik just nicked it in St. Louis. However, I could see all of those going to the eventual winner & in one case I clearly did.

Tonight was a flat out disgrace & I can't believe there is no more anger over this. It's been a while since I heard the scorecards & genuinely believed for a short while that the announcer has accidentally read out the wrong guy.

Sorry but how the fuck did you have Matthysse WINNING against Judah and LOSING to Alexander ?

He put on a much more impressive performance against Alexander than he did against Judah.

And in my opinion if a fight is close in rounds, but still a CLEAR victory for one fighter and he doesn't get the decision, then its still a robbery.

If a guy clearly wins 7 rounds and there is no doubt about it, no bickering over those 7, and the judges end up giving it to the other guy, especially with a knockdown involved, then that is still a robbery.

Check out that thread & you can read my scorecard

Maybe you felt he was more impressive against Alexander, but I felt they were similar performances (Matthysse not doing enough to quite take rounds for me early & mid) & in the Judah fight, he had two extra rounds to play with, which allowed him to pull out the win for me.

All those fights mentioned had enough close rounds that it could be disputed. I know that you're one of those who sees robberies every week, so you obviously won't agree with it

*Having slept, I came back to this & I will say I agree that if one fighter CLEARLY wins 7 rounds it's a robbery. However, in all those cases mentioned, I think that their were disputable rounds. A fight that I remember thinking one guy clearly won 7 rounds was the first Funeka-Guzman fight.

[ICB]

People who cried robbery in the Matthysse, Maidana and Kotelnik fights are part of the problem. Those were close fights.

Now when a fight is literally stolen, like tonight? People dismiss it because they've heard the term "robbery" far too often.

I completely agree with this. I'm also wondering what fight Maidana was robbed in

I thought Matthysse won against Judah & lost to Alexander & Kotelnik just nicked it in St. Louis. However, I could see all of those going to the eventual winner & in one case I clearly did.

Tonight was a flat out disgrace & I can't believe there is no more anger over this. It's been a while since I heard the scorecards & genuinely believed for a short while that the announcer has accidentally read out the wrong guy.

Sorry but how the fuck did you have Matthysse WINNING against Judah and LOSING to Alexander ?

He put on a much more impressive performance against Alexander than he did against Judah.

And in my opinion if a fight is close in rounds, but still a CLEAR victory for one fighter and he doesn't get the decision, then its still a robbery.

If a guy clearly wins 7 rounds and there is no doubt about it, no bickering over those 7, and the judges end up giving it to the other guy, especially with a knockdown involved, then that is still a robbery.

Check out that thread & you can read my scorecard

Maybe you felt he was more impressive against Alexander, but I felt they were similar performances (Matthysse not doing enough to quite take rounds for me early & mid) & in the Judah fight, he had two extra rounds to play with, which allowed him to pull out the win for me.

All those fights mentioned had enough close rounds that it could be disputed. I know that you're one of those who sees robberies every week, so you obviously won't agree with it

Maybe not a robbery but i really fail to see how Devon Alexander could of won, he was knocked down. Was hurt the most through the entire fight, he wasn't the aggressor, and he was outworked by the stronger fighter.

Devon Alexander pretty much lost almost every single round after the 4th round, including a knockdown against him.

[JazMerkin]

People who cried robbery in the Matthysse, Maidana and Kotelnik fights are part of the problem. Those were close fights.

Now when a fight is literally stolen, like tonight? People dismiss it because they've heard the term "robbery" far too often.

I completely agree with this. I'm also wondering what fight Maidana was robbed in

I thought Matthysse won against Judah & lost to Alexander & Kotelnik just nicked it in St. Louis. However, I could see all of those going to the eventual winner & in one case I clearly did.

Tonight was a flat out disgrace & I can't believe there is no more anger over this. It's been a while since I heard the scorecards & genuinely believed for a short while that the announcer has accidentally read out the wrong guy.

Sorry but how the fuck did you have Matthysse WINNING against Judah and LOSING to Alexander ?

He put on a much more impressive performance against Alexander than he did against Judah.

And in my opinion if a fight is close in rounds, but still a CLEAR victory for one fighter and he doesn't get the decision, then its still a robbery.

If a guy clearly wins 7 rounds and there is no doubt about it, no bickering over those 7, and the judges end up giving it to the other guy, especially with a knockdown involved, then that is still a robbery.

Check out that thread & you can read my scorecard

Maybe you felt he was more impressive against Alexander, but I felt they were similar performances (Matthysse not doing enough to quite take rounds for me early & mid) & in the Judah fight, he had two extra rounds to play with, which allowed him to pull out the win for me.

All those fights mentioned had enough close rounds that it could be disputed. I know that you're one of those who sees robberies every week, so you obviously won't agree with it

Maybe not a robbery but i really fail to see how Devon Alexander could of won, he was knocked down. Was hurt the most through the entire fight, he wasn't the aggressor, and he was outworked by the stronger fighter.

Devon Alexander pretty much lost almost every single round after the 4th round, including a knockdown against him.

Like I said, I'm not really planning to discuss that fight, I'm too busy being pissed off about this one. I was in the US watching it with no access to boxing sites & I saw it on 3 separate occasions & had it the same each time. I know my scorecard was 95-94 Alexander, but offhand can't remember the exact rounds. I'd also have had no issue with Matthysse winning, I wanted him to.

[ICB]

People who cried robbery in the Matthysse, Maidana and Kotelnik fights are part of the problem. Those were close fights.

Now when a fight is literally stolen, like tonight? People dismiss it because they've heard the term "robbery" far too often.

I completely agree with this. I'm also wondering what fight Maidana was robbed in

I thought Matthysse won against Judah & lost to Alexander & Kotelnik just nicked it in St. Louis. However, I could see all of those going to the eventual winner & in one case I clearly did.

Tonight was a flat out disgrace & I can't believe there is no more anger over this. It's been a while since I heard the scorecards & genuinely believed for a short while that the announcer has accidentally read out the wrong guy.

Sorry but how the fuck did you have Matthysse WINNING against Judah and LOSING to Alexander ?

He put on a much more impressive performance against Alexander than he did against Judah.

And in my opinion if a fight is close in rounds, but still a CLEAR victory for one fighter and he doesn't get the decision, then its still a robbery.

If a guy clearly wins 7 rounds and there is no doubt about it, no bickering over those 7, and the judges end up giving it to the other guy, especially with a knockdown involved, then that is still a robbery.

Check out that thread & you can read my scorecard

Maybe you felt he was more impressive against Alexander, but I felt they were similar performances (Matthysse not doing enough to quite take rounds for me early & mid) & in the Judah fight, he had two extra rounds to play with, which allowed him to pull out the win for me.

All those fights mentioned had enough close rounds that it could be disputed. I know that you're one of those who sees robberies every week, so you obviously won't agree with it

Maybe not a robbery but i really fail to see how Devon Alexander could of won, he was knocked down. Was hurt the most through the entire fight, he wasn't the aggressor, and he was outworked by the stronger fighter.

Devon Alexander pretty much lost almost every single round after the 4th round, including a knockdown against him.

Like I said, I'm not really planning to discuss that fight, I'm too busy being pissed off about this one. I was in the US watching it with no access to boxing sites & I saw it on 3 separate occasions & had it the same each time. I know my scorecard was 95-94 Alexander, but offhand can't remember the exact rounds. I'd also have had no issue with Matthysse winning, I wanted him to.

I've been way behind on boxing, i can't wait to see the Paul Williams one. Because sometime's people can get a bit too excited over a decision and call it a robbery, but pretty much everyone on here is saying the samething. Wow it seems like that KO has ruined him.

[Kev]

Actually watching the fight back tonight with the sound off and in slow motion I can see why the judges gave it to Williams.

I had him winning 7 rounds, they were close and Lara's rounds were more impressive but when you total them up they got the right man imo.

There were one or two rounds where I initially though Lara had won them, but in these I decided to watch them frame by frame both running forwards and backwards and when you run it in slow motion, backwards, frame by frame William's seems to be taking less shots than I though originally. I found in those rounds most of the punches that I had thought were landing flush when replayed backwards actually go away from his face.

So in all a very good call by the judges, in what was admiteddly a tought fight to score.

[OumaFan]

Actually watching the fight back tonight with the sound off and in slow motion I can see why the judges gave it to Williams.

I had him winning 7 rounds, they were close and Lara's rounds were more impressive but when you total them up they got the right man imo.

There were one or two rounds where I initially though Lara had won them, but in these I decided to watch them frame by frame both running forwards and backwards and when you run it in slow motion, backwards, frame by frame William's seems to be taking less shots than I though originally. I found in those rounds most of the punches that I had thought were landing flush when replayed backwards actually go away from his face.

So in all a very good call by the judges, in what was admiteddly a tought fight to score.

By any chance did you pay attention to which guy's hands looked faster in super slow mo?

[p4pking]

Is that like a Fantana style post Bilbo Or did you actually in fact go back and watch rounds in reverse and slow motion.... Lol. Because it's not as though the judges have the luxury of doing that and seemingly it would be the way to score if for Williams. Lara was so clearly the ring general and landing all the more telling punches to me, Williams head was being snapped back the entire fight and his footwork was so poor in comparison. I'll admit I only watched it live in real time though, but it was almost impossible to give Williams more than 2 rounds after the third(when I started watching).

[CFH]

People who cried robbery in the Matthysse, Maidana and Kotelnik fights are part of the problem. Those were close fights.

Now when a fight is literally stolen, like tonight? People dismiss it because they've heard the term "robbery" far too often.

I completely agree with this. I'm also wondering what fight Maidana was robbed in

I thought Matthysse won against Judah & lost to Alexander & Kotelnik just nicked it in St. Louis. However, I could see all of those going to the eventual winner & in one case I clearly did.

Tonight was a flat out disgrace & I can't believe there is no more anger over this. It's been a while since I heard the scorecards & genuinely believed for a short while that the announcer has accidentally read out the wrong guy.

Sorry but how the fuck did you have Matthysse WINNING against Judah and LOSING to Alexander ?

He put on a much more impressive performance against Alexander than he did against Judah.

And in my opinion if a fight is close in rounds, but still a CLEAR victory for one fighter and he doesn't get the decision, then its still a robbery.

If a guy clearly wins 7 rounds and there is no doubt about it, no bickering over those 7, and the judges end up giving it to the other guy, especially with a knockdown involved, then that is still a robbery.

I agree 100%. A fight doesn't have to be an apparent blowout to be a robbery. As long as one fighter clearly deserved to win and did not, I think it's fair to call it a robbery.