More Arizona politics hooray guns!

[generalbulldog]

So you have an irresponsible gun owner. Hey it happens. Just like you have irresponsible drivers. That happens also. So what's my point? You have idiots in every segment of society.

[Spicoli]

Its really a bit of unspoken message some elected officials would want to send to a pokey abrasive news reporter. Really, dumb chick needs to get a grip. This has little to do with gun owner rights and more to do with grandstanding by some fktard with a platform. It cheapens a real issue. So says the guy with a Mossberg by the door(s)

[CFH]

Why would any sane individual buy a gun without a safety and then carry it around IN THEIR FUCKING PURSE??!

[VictorCharlie]

I'm as pro 2nd as anyone out there but irresponsible gun owners really piss me off and just provide the opposition ammo.

[Nameless]

So... ok, it is legal to buy more or less any kind of caliber you want and to carry it with you, I find it wacko but ok, fine. Is it legal though to carry a gun in a public meeting and to remove totally the security from it? Beside the 2nd that allows you to own weapons, is there no very strict laws about the state of the weapon itself (i.e how it is secure for instance) and very strict punishment system if you point it with a full load on other's face?

[killersheep]

So... ok, it is legal to buy more or less any kind of caliber you want and to carry it with you, I find it wacko but ok, fine. Is it legal though to carry a gun in a public meeting and to remove totally the security from it? Beside the 2nd that allows you to own weapons, is there no very strict laws about the state of the weapon itself (i.e how it is secure for instance) and very strict punishment system if you point it with a full load on other's face?

As far as I know no law exists. Now if she would have made demands she would have broken the law.

[VictorCharlie]

So... ok, it is legal to buy more or less any kind of caliber you want and to carry it with you, I find it wacko but ok, fine. Is it legal though to carry a gun in a public meeting and to remove totally the security from it? Beside the 2nd that allows you to own weapons, is there no very strict laws about the state of the weapon itself (i.e how it is secure for instance) and very strict punishment system if you point it with a full load on other's face?

Gun laws vary from state to state. California has more regulations than most on what kind of firearms you can own and the magazine capacity. The ability to carry, how to carry and where one can carry a firearm also differ between states. AZ happens to have some of the most relaxed laws in the country. In Texas you can have a concealed license but private vendors can put signs on their doors stating that weapons cannot be brought on the premises. Most state and federals buildings in Texas are off limits as well. AZ allows open carry, meaning you can go to the grocery store with a firearm on your belt for the world to see. I wish more of our laws varied from state to state versus broad federal policies. Gun ownership in the U.S. is a good example of how federlism should work...unless you live in a state whose policies differ from your own opinion. You occasionally see the study where gun related homicides in Hawai (strict gun laws) is compared to gun related homicides in Louisiana (lax gun laws) that seem to show a correlation in easy access to firearms to gun deaths. Of course if one did the same study between California (strict gun laws) and Utah (very lax guns laws) the reverse would be true. Just goes to show humans will find a way to kill one another regardless of the access to guns, knives or whatever. Advocates of the 2nd should roundly denounce the AZ representative. She is an example of everything that is wrong about the immature, irresponsible and uninformed gun owner.

[marbleheadmaui]

So... ok, it is legal to buy more or less any kind of caliber you want and to carry it with you, I find it wacko but ok, fine. Is it legal though to carry a gun in a public meeting and to remove totally the security from it? Beside the 2nd that allows you to own weapons, is there no very strict laws about the state of the weapon itself (i.e how it is secure for instance) and very strict punishment system if you point it with a full load on other's face?

Gun laws vary from state to state. California has more regulations than most on what kind of firearms you can own and the magazine capacity. The ability to carry, how to carry and where one can carry a firearm also differ between states. AZ happens to have some of the most relaxed laws in the country. In Texas you can have a concealed license but private vendors can put signs on their doors stating that weapons cannot be brought on the premises. Most state and federals buildings in Texas are off limits as well. AZ allows open carry, meaning you can go to the grocery store with a firearm on your belt for the world to see. I wish more of our laws varied from state to state versus broad federal policies. Gun ownership in the U.S. is a good example of how federlism should work...unless you live in a state whose policies differ from your own opinion. You occasionally see the study where gun related homicides in Hawai (strict gun laws) is compared to gun related homicides in Louisiana (lax gun laws) that seem to show a correlation in easy access to firearms to gun deaths. Of course if one did the same study between California (strict gun laws) and Utah (very lax guns laws) the reverse would be true. Just goes to show humans will find a way to kill one another regardless of the access to guns, knives or whatever. Advocates of the 2nd should roundly denounce the AZ representative. She is an example of everything that is wrong about the immature, irresponsible and uninformed gun owner.

BINGO on the bold. But I'd go further. The only laws that should be made at the Federal level should be those that can ONLY be made at the Federal Level (Federal Taxes, national defense issues etc). The only laws made at the State levels should be those that can ONLY be made at the State level (State taxes, roads that go through multiple counties etc).

90%+ of all laws should be made at the town/city level. That includes gun issues.

Why should it be this way? It maximizes freedom. If I don't like the laws in my town? I can move one over an escape them. More burdensome to have to leave the state and most burdensome to have to leave the country. There should be, I dunno, 250,000 flavors of freedom in the USA.

[Nameless]

So... ok, it is legal to buy more or less any kind of caliber you want and to carry it with you, I find it wacko but ok, fine. Is it legal though to carry a gun in a public meeting and to remove totally the security from it? Beside the 2nd that allows you to own weapons, is there no very strict laws about the state of the weapon itself (i.e how it is secure for instance) and very strict punishment system if you point it with a full load on other's face?

Gun laws vary from state to state. California has more regulations than most on what kind of firearms you can own and the magazine capacity. The ability to carry, how to carry and where one can carry a firearm also differ between states. AZ happens to have some of the most relaxed laws in the country. In Texas you can have a concealed license but private vendors can put signs on their doors stating that weapons cannot be brought on the premises. Most state and federals buildings in Texas are off limits as well. AZ allows open carry, meaning you can go to the grocery store with a firearm on your belt for the world to see. I wish more of our laws varied from state to state versus broad federal policies. Gun ownership in the U.S. is a good example of how federlism should work...unless you live in a state whose policies differ from your own opinion. You occasionally see the study where gun related homicides in Hawai (strict gun laws) is compared to gun related homicides in Louisiana (lax gun laws) that seem to show a correlation in easy access to firearms to gun deaths. Of course if one did the same study between California (strict gun laws) and Utah (very lax guns laws) the reverse would be true. Just goes to show humans will find a way to kill one another regardless of the access to guns, knives or whatever. Advocates of the 2nd should roundly denounce the AZ representative. She is an example of everything that is wrong about the immature, irresponsible and uninformed gun owner.

Thanks for the info, I knew that the laws were different from state to state but I was wondering if there was some national policies that does apply to all the States before they can make their own regulation.
So to speak, what I am against is not that much that people can buy some fireweapons (especially about hunting rifles) but that they often can buy staggering calibers or military type of guns that can be extremely deadly (i.e automatic ones with almost endless loaders) or walk in their daily life with it. Weapons that one can buy should be (IMO) limited in term of type of weapons available and only be used/carried in some very specific places.
Sure, wackos shouldn,t be allowed to have guns and we should leave the mature ones a bit more loose but then again, such system is only possible to apply in very small community and not in a country where you have over 30 millions citizens. There is also the aspect that one can be very normal but simply snap off one day/get intoxicated with booze or drugs and do something really stupid. The big problem is that to avoid catastrophes (just like for the banking system and what happened in your country) we have to think mass psychology and to put some "strict" legislations to limit the possible extend of disasters. Does it mean a total ban gun? Perhaps not. I used to think so, now my stance on the matter has changed a bit, I think that just limiting the type of guns available to the common of mortals and limiting where you can own one/storage conditions could make the hell of a difference in the middle run.

[killersheep]

I'm as pro 2nd as anyone out there but irresponsible gun owners really piss me off and just provide the opposition ammo.

Irresponsible gun owners are a big problem really, I know people (in their late 30s, early 40s) that bump fired all their ammo in a parking zone near our lakes while getting absolutely wasted. This makes me very angry personally.

Most gun owners I know are responsible and have them for home protection, hunting or competitive shooting.