If Vitali beats Adameck...

[erics44]

Haye was in it to SURVIVE vs Wlad he wasn't in it to win, he didn't do a damn thing but get on his bike and then try to steal points by falling down all the time feigning like Wlad pushed him. I guess that was "Master Genius" Trainer Adam Booth's secret weapon

In the end the guy tried to unify the belts by trying to draw a DQ out of the ref...its gutless and disrespectful and the whole of England should be ashamed of him.

you are wrong completely, in fact ive never read a post from you when you have been more wrong

and you say all this about haye, but wlads performance wasnt exactly macho, he took no chances either (a lot more than usual but still very little)

if haye had won i wouldnt be telling you how crap wlad is/was whatever, be as honourable in defeat as in victory

you should accept the situation that whilst wlad and vitali are champs unless one of them fight haye again then we wont have any excitement like we had for the last month or two until they retire and we get a new champ

[boxingbantz]

you are wrong completely, in fact ive never read a post from you when you have been more wrong

and you say all this about haye, but wlads performance wasnt exactly macho, he took no chances either (a lot more than usual but still very little)

if haye had won i wouldnt be telling you how crap wlad is/was whatever, be as honourable in defeat as in victory

you should accept the situation that whilst wlad and vitali are champs unless one of them fight haye again then we wont have any excitement like we had for the last month or two until they retire and we get a new champ

There won't be any excitement surrounding a Haye vs Klit fight any more as everyone knows he was just all hype. The ambulances, the hospital visits, the vicious knockouts, this "plan that no one has ever seen before" - it was a fucking joke and Haye looks an even bigger cunt than he already was because of it. I certainly wouldn't pay £15 to watch him fight Wlad again. I'm not sure many other boxing 'fans' would either.

[erics44]

you are wrong completely, in fact ive never read a post from you when you have been more wrong

and you say all this about haye, but wlads performance wasnt exactly macho, he took no chances either (a lot more than usual but still very little)

if haye had won i wouldnt be telling you how crap wlad is/was whatever, be as honourable in defeat as in victory

you should accept the situation that whilst wlad and vitali are champs unless one of them fight haye again then we wont have any excitement like we had for the last month or two until they retire and we get a new champ

There won't be any excitement surrounding a Haye vs Klit fight any more as everyone knows he was just all hype. The ambulances, the hospital visits, the vicious knockouts, this "plan that no one has ever seen before" - it was a fucking joke and Haye looks an even bigger cunt than he already was because of it. I certainly wouldn't pay £15 to watch him fight Wlad again. I'm not sure many other boxing 'fans' would either.

A fight with haye will generate more interest than with any other fighter, not as much as this time around maybe

and you would pay the £15

[El Kabong]

you are wrong completely, in fact ive never read a post from you when you have been more wrong

and you say all this about haye, but wlads performance wasnt exactly macho, he took no chances either (a lot more than usual but still very little)

if haye had won i wouldnt be telling you how crap wlad is/was whatever, be as honourable in defeat as in victory

you should accept the situation that whilst wlad and vitali are champs unless one of them fight haye again then we wont have any excitement like we had for the last month or two until they retire and we get a new champ

Wladimir came to fight which is why he spent his time stalking Haye down. Did Wlad stand toe to toe with David? No...#1 that's not Wlad's style but #2 Haye wouldn't have returned the favor. The issue people have with Wlad's defense is simply this he's a big guy and usually instead of just blocking a punch he'll block and move sometimes to try and set up a counter punch and its odd seeing a guy who is 6'7 jump back or tie up when a fighter gets inside (although Lewis and Ali did the same fucking thing, but I digress). Did Wlad let his hands go enough? No, I don't think he did, but part of that comes from Wlad being around so long (56 wins now) that he knows what he has to do to win rounds, certainly he would have liked the KO, but he couldn't make Haye stand still to get it.

At the end of the day Wlad is THE Champion and it was Haye's job to take the belts off of him...and all I can say for Haye's effort is: for a guy with a broken toe he certainly ran well enough.

Who says we won't have excitement? I'm happy every time the Klitschko's fight, they are great champions. As for the division as a whole, it'll always be interesting and there will always be good fights out there to be made. Right now if Arreola doesn't fight Wlad then an Arreola-Stiverne fight would be a hell of a brawl! Boytsov is a good action fighter, a little small for heavyweight but a good fighter. Povetkin needs to step up, I think a match vs Dimitrenko would be ok. The division has never been only about 1 or 2 guys...though Wlad and Vitali are head and shoulders above their competition.

[erics44]

you are wrong completely, in fact ive never read a post from you when you have been more wrong

and you say all this about haye, but wlads performance wasnt exactly macho, he took no chances either (a lot more than usual but still very little)

if haye had won i wouldnt be telling you how crap wlad is/was whatever, be as honourable in defeat as in victory

you should accept the situation that whilst wlad and vitali are champs unless one of them fight haye again then we wont have any excitement like we had for the last month or two until they retire and we get a new champ

Wladimir came to fight which is why he spent his time stalking Haye down. Did Wlad stand toe to toe with David? No...#1 that's not Wlad's style but #2 Haye wouldn't have returned the favor. The issue people have with Wlad's defense is simply this he's a big guy and usually instead of just blocking a punch he'll block and move sometimes to try and set up a counter punch and its odd seeing a guy who is 6'7 jump back or tie up when a fighter gets inside (although Lewis and Ali did the same fucking thing, but I digress). Did Wlad let his hands go enough? No, I don't think he did, but part of that comes from Wlad being around so long (56 wins now) that he knows what he has to do to win rounds, certainly he would have liked the KO, but he couldn't make Haye stand still to get it.

At the end of the day Wlad is THE Champion and it was Haye's job to take the belts off of him...and all I can say for Haye's effort is: for a guy with a broken toe he certainly ran well enough.

Who says we won't have excitement? I'm happy every time the Klitschko's fight, they are great champions. As for the division as a whole, it'll always be interesting and there will always be good fights out there to be made. Right now if Arreola doesn't fight Wlad then an Arreola-Stiverne fight would be a hell of a brawl! Boytsov is a good action fighter, a little small for heavyweight but a good fighter. Povetkin needs to step up, I think a match vs Dimitrenko would be ok. The division has never been only about 1 or 2 guys...though Wlad and Vitali are head and shoulders above their competition.

you are happy when they fight but the majorty of the boxing world arent and thats a fact

as stubborn as you are you cant tell me that this fight with haye hasnt generated more interest around the world than any other wlads other fights by some distance

I would go as far as to say more than all of his fights in his recent reign put together

for once in a long time there was interest in the HW division and until they retire we wont get that again

unless maybe haye fights one of them again

[El Kabong]

you are wrong completely, in fact ive never read a post from you when you have been more wrong

and you say all this about haye, but wlads performance wasnt exactly macho, he took no chances either (a lot more than usual but still very little)

if haye had won i wouldnt be telling you how crap wlad is/was whatever, be as honourable in defeat as in victory

you should accept the situation that whilst wlad and vitali are champs unless one of them fight haye again then we wont have any excitement like we had for the last month or two until they retire and we get a new champ

Wladimir came to fight which is why he spent his time stalking Haye down. Did Wlad stand toe to toe with David? No...#1 that's not Wlad's style but #2 Haye wouldn't have returned the favor. The issue people have with Wlad's defense is simply this he's a big guy and usually instead of just blocking a punch he'll block and move sometimes to try and set up a counter punch and its odd seeing a guy who is 6'7 jump back or tie up when a fighter gets inside (although Lewis and Ali did the same fucking thing, but I digress). Did Wlad let his hands go enough? No, I don't think he did, but part of that comes from Wlad being around so long (56 wins now) that he knows what he has to do to win rounds, certainly he would have liked the KO, but he couldn't make Haye stand still to get it.

At the end of the day Wlad is THE Champion and it was Haye's job to take the belts off of him...and all I can say for Haye's effort is: for a guy with a broken toe he certainly ran well enough.

Who says we won't have excitement? I'm happy every time the Klitschko's fight, they are great champions. As for the division as a whole, it'll always be interesting and there will always be good fights out there to be made. Right now if Arreola doesn't fight Wlad then an Arreola-Stiverne fight would be a hell of a brawl! Boytsov is a good action fighter, a little small for heavyweight but a good fighter. Povetkin needs to step up, I think a match vs Dimitrenko would be ok. The division has never been only about 1 or 2 guys...though Wlad and Vitali are head and shoulders above their competition.

you are happy when they fight but the majorty of the boxing world arent and thats a fact

as stubborn as you are you cant tell me that this fight with haye hasnt generated more interest around the world than any other wlads other fights by some distance

I would go as far as to say more than all of his fights in his recent reign put together

for once in a long time there was interest in the HW division and until they retire we wont get that again

unless maybe haye fights one of them again

Depends on who you ask really...just remind yourself that over 50,000 people came to watch Wladimir Klitschko vs Eddie Chambers. Has David Haye ever drawn a crowd close to that size?

[erics44]

you are wrong completely, in fact ive never read a post from you when you have been more wrong

and you say all this about haye, but wlads performance wasnt exactly macho, he took no chances either (a lot more than usual but still very little)

if haye had won i wouldnt be telling you how crap wlad is/was whatever, be as honourable in defeat as in victory

you should accept the situation that whilst wlad and vitali are champs unless one of them fight haye again then we wont have any excitement like we had for the last month or two until they retire and we get a new champ

Wladimir came to fight which is why he spent his time stalking Haye down. Did Wlad stand toe to toe with David? No...#1 that's not Wlad's style but #2 Haye wouldn't have returned the favor. The issue people have with Wlad's defense is simply this he's a big guy and usually instead of just blocking a punch he'll block and move sometimes to try and set up a counter punch and its odd seeing a guy who is 6'7 jump back or tie up when a fighter gets inside (although Lewis and Ali did the same fucking thing, but I digress). Did Wlad let his hands go enough? No, I don't think he did, but part of that comes from Wlad being around so long (56 wins now) that he knows what he has to do to win rounds, certainly he would have liked the KO, but he couldn't make Haye stand still to get it.

At the end of the day Wlad is THE Champion and it was Haye's job to take the belts off of him...and all I can say for Haye's effort is: for a guy with a broken toe he certainly ran well enough.

Who says we won't have excitement? I'm happy every time the Klitschko's fight, they are great champions. As for the division as a whole, it'll always be interesting and there will always be good fights out there to be made. Right now if Arreola doesn't fight Wlad then an Arreola-Stiverne fight would be a hell of a brawl! Boytsov is a good action fighter, a little small for heavyweight but a good fighter. Povetkin needs to step up, I think a match vs Dimitrenko would be ok. The division has never been only about 1 or 2 guys...though Wlad and Vitali are head and shoulders above their competition.

you are happy when they fight but the majorty of the boxing world arent and thats a fact

as stubborn as you are you cant tell me that this fight with haye hasnt generated more interest around the world than any other wlads other fights by some distance

I would go as far as to say more than all of his fights in his recent reign put together

for once in a long time there was interest in the HW division and until they retire we wont get that again

unless maybe haye fights one of them again

Depends on who you ask really...just remind yourself that over 50,000 people came to watch Wladimir Klitschko vs Eddie Chambers. Has David Haye ever drawn a crowd close to that size?

yep hes pretty popular in germany

so was sven ottke

[El Kabong]

you are wrong completely, in fact ive never read a post from you when you have been more wrong

and you say all this about haye, but wlads performance wasnt exactly macho, he took no chances either (a lot more than usual but still very little)

if haye had won i wouldnt be telling you how crap wlad is/was whatever, be as honourable in defeat as in victory

you should accept the situation that whilst wlad and vitali are champs unless one of them fight haye again then we wont have any excitement like we had for the last month or two until they retire and we get a new champ

Wladimir came to fight which is why he spent his time stalking Haye down. Did Wlad stand toe to toe with David? No...#1 that's not Wlad's style but #2 Haye wouldn't have returned the favor. The issue people have with Wlad's defense is simply this he's a big guy and usually instead of just blocking a punch he'll block and move sometimes to try and set up a counter punch and its odd seeing a guy who is 6'7 jump back or tie up when a fighter gets inside (although Lewis and Ali did the same fucking thing, but I digress). Did Wlad let his hands go enough? No, I don't think he did, but part of that comes from Wlad being around so long (56 wins now) that he knows what he has to do to win rounds, certainly he would have liked the KO, but he couldn't make Haye stand still to get it.

At the end of the day Wlad is THE Champion and it was Haye's job to take the belts off of him...and all I can say for Haye's effort is: for a guy with a broken toe he certainly ran well enough.

Who says we won't have excitement? I'm happy every time the Klitschko's fight, they are great champions. As for the division as a whole, it'll always be interesting and there will always be good fights out there to be made. Right now if Arreola doesn't fight Wlad then an Arreola-Stiverne fight would be a hell of a brawl! Boytsov is a good action fighter, a little small for heavyweight but a good fighter. Povetkin needs to step up, I think a match vs Dimitrenko would be ok. The division has never been only about 1 or 2 guys...though Wlad and Vitali are head and shoulders above their competition.

you are happy when they fight but the majorty of the boxing world arent and thats a fact

as stubborn as you are you cant tell me that this fight with haye hasnt generated more interest around the world than any other wlads other fights by some distance

I would go as far as to say more than all of his fights in his recent reign put together

for once in a long time there was interest in the HW division and until they retire we wont get that again

unless maybe haye fights one of them again

Depends on who you ask really...just remind yourself that over 50,000 people came to watch Wladimir Klitschko vs Eddie Chambers. Has David Haye ever drawn a crowd close to that size?

yep hes pretty popular in germany

so was sven ottke

And the point you miss with that comparison is that Wlad is more than willing to take on anyone and everyone in the division and the refs used in Wlad's fights do a very respectable fair and balanced job.

[erics44]

And the point you miss with that comparison is that Wlad is more than willing to take on anyone and everyone in the division and the refs used in Wlad's fights do a very respectable fair and balanced job.

thats true but the point you miss is nobody (outside Germany) cared

then he fought haye

and now nobody cares again

[El Kabong]

Well I never said any of those things, but I do agree his next 10 fights will be just like the last few, Wlad wins and wins easy no matter who the opponent.

[Spicoli]

I think this will turn out to be a pretty good scrap before its all said and done. Adameck has the boxing mobility (of the two) and solid punch selection to keep Vitali respectful for many rounds. I give him a shot here as long as he keeps his head and keeps Vitali over active early. He is no spring chicken and has maintained serious activity level on his terms. Call me crazy....I think Adamek is very live. This will be far from one way traffic.